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I need a way to export timeline out of PPro to a video file, lossless, low file size.

Advocate ,
Dec 18, 2020 Dec 18, 2020

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Hi, did I ask that right?

 

I have 10 mins on a timeline, with lots of adjustments, scale, color, etc.

I want to export the timeline to a video file, then re import that video file into PPro so later I can make a disc with it (and other timelines)

 

I tried ProRes42 and the file size for ONE minute of footage was 1 GB !! yikes!!! tooo big.

 

My footage is Standard old school DV.  24p.

 

Can you recommend a codec or video setting to export my stuff so it's "Lossless" but as low in size as possible??

 

Thank you!

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Community Expert , Dec 18, 2020 Dec 18, 2020

so later I can make a disc

If you want to send it to an authoring program like Encore to create a DVD, use Mpeg2-DVD.

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so later I can make a disc

If you want to send it to an authoring program like Encore to create a DVD, use Mpeg2-DVD.

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Hi, I want to export it from PPRo, lossless as possible, and low file as possible, then import it back into PPro.  I have a long project and need to break it down in pcs, before doing a final render and disc.  Each section will be about 5 mins long, and has lots of stuff in it, ie: color, upscale, denoise, lots of stuff that will not simply export into a disc... for fear of crashing....   it's easier to break it down and make mini masters, then import them all back into PPro, then making the disc will be very easy on the computer. 

I just need the right setting...  prores is sooo big.    I will check out Mpeg2, I think that is the way to go. IF it can be almost lossless?   Thanks for your help!

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Are you upscaling the footage from SD to HD?

 

I converted 76 minutes PAL DV to GoPro CineForm with a Quality set to 4 and it came out 17.7 GB. ProRes should come out more or less the same.

 

Lossless files are never small. 

 

Post a screen dump of your Export Settings.

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Thanks! I'll try gopro cine when I get home.

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Your wishes are absolutely in conflict with each other. That's the exact size ProRes42 is designed to be.  The target data rate is approximately 147 Mbps at 1920x1080 and 29.97 fps. 147 Mbps is 8820 Mb = 1102 MB per minute. And it isn't even lossless. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202410#:~:text=Apple%20ProRes%20422%20is%20a,at%201920x1080%20and%....

 

But why do it that way? Do you know that Premiere Pro can import sequences from another project file? No loss of quality at all, but don't lose your clips!

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reminds me of the question "do you want it cheap, fast or good?"  Relatively speaking, drive's are cheap.  I got a 2 gig drive with my first avid, I think it cost about $ 3000 (don't ask what the avid cost). 

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Dec 19, 2020 Dec 19, 2020

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FOR TEST SCREEN NAME....

 

Hi, when I do a prores422 export out of After effecs, it's a small file....  how come it's so big when I use PPro??? weird.

about bringing in a project file from ppro into ppro... I'm trying to avoid project files, because I only want to render them one time, then export to video, then bring the video back into Ppro so later I can send it to disc and the computer won't be freaking out about exporting all those lose render files and effects....etc...   for a 2 hour disc, I want a clean simple export.

 

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"when I do a prores422 export out of After effecs, it's a small file....  how come it's so big when I use PPro??? weird."

That sounds like a fault, since the rules of ProRes422 define expected bitrates. Unless the After Effects project has negligible real world video to compress. Every video I exported from After Effects was enormous, I gave up and (did the right thing I assume, I) placed the After Effects project into Premiere Pro. But I was making deliverable, not intermediate, files. 

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Basically the bitrate times the duration becomes the SIZE of the file, no matter what anyone is doing.

It's a pain but if you google certain codecs you can find charts that tell you the exact bitrates ( bits per second , shown as bps ).  Then it's calculater time.... put in number of seconds and multiply by bps. That gives you the bit size... so you just convert to mb, gb, etc.

make sense ?

 

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I'm on it... thanks!    but I was hoping to use what other folks are using to export to video from ppro with almost loseless results and as small as can be.

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