Is there a special order in Premiere Pro for adding effects and color?

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Hello,

I'm adding these 4 effects to my clip and adjustment layer:

Neat Video (de noiser)

Lumettri

Crop

and on the clip:

Sharpen

Oh, and a few clips have Warp Stablizer...  where should that go? I read after Neat Vid. but before or after color?

 

For some reason, the Sharpen works when it's directly on the clip, and not in the adjustment layer... .strange.

Can I make a 2nd adjustment layer ??

 

Is there a rule of thumb for the order of effects?

I was told to have Neat Video first....  then ???

and if I add a 2nd adjustment layer, does that go above or below my first adjust layer?

What the pecking order? 

 

Thanks for your thoughts.

Letty

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Correct answer by R Neil Haugen | Adobe Community Professional

Ouch! That's a heavy, heavy workload there.

 

That workflow is going to take several steps.

 

Do the Warp clips first, and export to a good DI ... digital intermediate ... format/codec like Cineform or DNxHD/R or ProRes 422, reimporting that back to replace the original clips.

 

Then if you've got serious Neat denoising to do, you've got a decision. Do that and again export/reimport, then color'sharpening ... or do color and at the end  try the denoise/sharpening process.

 

Combining heavy color and video denoising in one export processing  can take hours and hours. And sharpening should be handled as near the end as possible. So I might tend to get everything through color and other effects, ready to export. Then do a render/replace to a format/codec as noted above.

 

After the R&R work is done processing, then do the de-noise and sharpening in one step during the final export.

 

Colorists of course often have to deal with things like this. Which is why they need fast, massive RAIDs on 10GigE connections, 128 Gigs of RAM minimum ... and really, really hot CPUs and GPUs. In other words, 'heavy iron' computers.

 

Neil

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Is there a special order in Premiere Pro for adding effects and color?

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Hello,

I'm adding these 4 effects to my clip and adjustment layer:

Neat Video (de noiser)

Lumettri

Crop

and on the clip:

Sharpen

Oh, and a few clips have Warp Stablizer...  where should that go? I read after Neat Vid. but before or after color?

 

For some reason, the Sharpen works when it's directly on the clip, and not in the adjustment layer... .strange.

Can I make a 2nd adjustment layer ??

 

Is there a rule of thumb for the order of effects?

I was told to have Neat Video first....  then ???

and if I add a 2nd adjustment layer, does that go above or below my first adjust layer?

What the pecking order? 

 

Thanks for your thoughts.

Letty

Adobe Community Professional
Correct answer by R Neil Haugen | Adobe Community Professional

Ouch! That's a heavy, heavy workload there.

 

That workflow is going to take several steps.

 

Do the Warp clips first, and export to a good DI ... digital intermediate ... format/codec like Cineform or DNxHD/R or ProRes 422, reimporting that back to replace the original clips.

 

Then if you've got serious Neat denoising to do, you've got a decision. Do that and again export/reimport, then color'sharpening ... or do color and at the end  try the denoise/sharpening process.

 

Combining heavy color and video denoising in one export processing  can take hours and hours. And sharpening should be handled as near the end as possible. So I might tend to get everything through color and other effects, ready to export. Then do a render/replace to a format/codec as noted above.

 

After the R&R work is done processing, then do the de-noise and sharpening in one step during the final export.

 

Colorists of course often have to deal with things like this. Which is why they need fast, massive RAIDs on 10GigE connections, 128 Gigs of RAM minimum ... and really, really hot CPUs and GPUs. In other words, 'heavy iron' computers.

 

Neil

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Ouch! That's a heavy, heavy workload there.

 

That workflow is going to take several steps.

 

Do the Warp clips first, and export to a good DI ... digital intermediate ... format/codec like Cineform or DNxHD/R or ProRes 422, reimporting that back to replace the original clips.

 

Then if you've got serious Neat denoising to do, you've got a decision. Do that and again export/reimport, then color'sharpening ... or do color and at the end  try the denoise/sharpening process.

 

Combining heavy color and video denoising in one export processing  can take hours and hours. And sharpening should be handled as near the end as possible. So I might tend to get everything through color and other effects, ready to export. Then do a render/replace to a format/codec as noted above.

 

After the R&R work is done processing, then do the de-noise and sharpening in one step during the final export.

 

Colorists of course often have to deal with things like this. Which is why they need fast, massive RAIDs on 10GigE connections, 128 Gigs of RAM minimum ... and really, really hot CPUs and GPUs. In other words, 'heavy iron' computers.

 

Neil

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Thank you very much Neil, as always solid professional advice.

Best,

Letty

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