No More Noise & Grain Removal Feature!!?? :(

[AndrewFlores]

Everyday my customers and clients give me videos to edit an encode for them. A lot of the times their video quality isn’t exactly the greatest.

I COMMONLY use the EFFECTS > VIDEO EFFECTS > NOISE & GRAIN > MEDIAN adjustment slider to correct and fix their clips before I encode their video. Its easy, quick and simple.  Anyone else notice that there is no more option to do that?

It’s just Gone??! All we can do is “sharpen” now? That Freekin sux!! Thats probobly the #1 most common tool I use to edit my videos. 😞 

[chrisw44157881]

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[Michael Grenadier]

and you can revert to the previous version of Premiere that had the effect.  Go to the creative cloud app and click on the elipsis at the far right side of premiere and choose "other versions."  

[Peru Bob]

Have a look at Neat Video:

https://www.neatvideo.com/

[AndrewFlores]

That looks INCREDIBLE!! I am going to try that plug-in! Thank you so much 🙂

[Michael Grenadier]

I love the Neat plug-in but it does require some digging to understand how to make it work and you need to tweak the parameters for each shot.  On my underpowered 2012 macbook pro, the interface is much more responsive in aftereffects...   And it's truly magic on some shots and not so much on others...  

[AndrewFlores]

I have a box full of old VHS tapes my mom left behind when she past away a few weeks ago. I am going to screen record and digitize the videos so that I can show my kids, and my grand kids one day. My computer I just built have a 3970X 32-core threadripper CPU, and a Asus TUF OC 3090 GPU. Hopefully This Neat Video pug in feature can help clean up the image quality (VERY NOISY) so my family can enjoy these older home video 🙂  

[Michael Grenadier]

well, it will probably help.  I'm pretty sure there's a free trial available with some limitations.  But there's always a trade off between noise and sharpness.  

[Ann Bens · Accepted solution]

Median effect is in the Obsolete folder for now.

[AndrewFlores]

Hi Ann 🙂 

A few minutes after I posted the problem, I was having a customer service rep (via live chat) directed me to where they moved this feature to. That was good and made me happy because I use this feature quite often. Did you see the comment above this one? It is called “Neat Video” It looks Incredible!! I think I am going tot try that 😊

[Ann Bens]

Yes I know about Neat Video.

I use this one: DE:Noise - RE:Vision Effects 

[jampff]

Just curious... does anyone know, is it being replaced with anything? My understanding is that when Adobe moves an effect to the Obsolete folder it's because it's being replaced with something more modern.

[AndrewFlores]

Thats a really good question. If you look at the screenshot i took last night when i noticed this problem while editing, there is only an “Noise” option/ slider that you can use to Increase the noise! That’s super weird, I don’t know who would want to do that to thier videos and intentionally make them look worse. Hopefully in an upcoming update of premiere they put something there that is as good as / or even better than, the Neat Video plug-in! That would be really cool of Adobe if they could do that somehow.

Sent from my iPhone

[R Neil Haugen]

I've not heard of any replacement for their old noise reduction process. There are such good plugins available, I don't think they're going to work at building a new one internally.

I'm on Neat within Premiere, personally. Though I've also got the full Red Giant suite, which has a noise reduction app also. I've not tested them, but then, Neat is pretty much the industry standard.

Neil

[Jackie31434181tw8b]

Hi, it's now 2024, is there an update on this, is it necessary to purchase a plug-in.  Thanks

[R Neil Haugen]

If there was, it would be in the Effects panel, so it's easy to check. And ... nope. Neat video, or maybe if you've got the Maxon RedGiant Universe suite of plugins, they have a video noise removal panel that's not too bad.

[Jackie31434181tw8b]

Thank you!!

Jackie Gardner
Production Team Manager

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[jackthegiantslayer]

Honestly it's pretty sad that Premiere can't manage to include a basic noise/grain reduction plugin, although the one included with After Effects is painfully, painfully slow. Guess I have to invest in the Neat Plugin while Premiere developers focus on AI and other features nobody asked for.

[Michael Grenadier]

capitalism at work.  I'm sure Adobe is doing what they think will provide the best return on investment.  Not saying they're judgement is infallible...   

[R Neil Haugen]

Every one of us is different. In the aisle at NAB one time, a TV station lead editor and his four assistants were talking. He trained every one of them from rank noobs at hiring. And had very specific protocols for all media and file practices.

And they laughed that even so, they all worked very different from another.

Well, I've loved getting the transcript editing process. I know other pros who are thrilled with several of the new audio and editing features based on machine learning or "AI".

So the assumption that no one "serious" uses any of the new AI features is bogus to start.

That said, I'm with Michael. I've had enough discussions at events with devs to get a feel for the decision processes. Which are varied and more "based" on user usage than most of us would probably expect.

I've also been through both in-person and online one on one hour long processes with a moderator and a dev. Like "If you see these options on this screen, what do you think each does? And how would you expect to use them?"

So I know they do sample the user base intensively.

And like Michael says, I don't necessarily agree with any particular decision made. I understand why, perhaps. I can often explain the decisions.

But that doesn't mean agreement or defense of their choices. As an explanation has nothing to do with defending something.

Several things I've dearly pushed for both online and in person are probably not gonna happen. Simply because there are so few of the users as a percentage that would ever use or notice the changes. Been told that in person.

I do respect the devs, every one of the many I've met over the last decade is a passionate editor outside of their job with Adobe.

I just disagree with some choices. As humans will do.