Obsolete Audio Effects - Premiere Pro 2017

[jamesc63111057]

Hey all,

I just upgrade to the latest Premiere Pro and I always used the audio effects "Dynamics" for it's limiter function on a channel strip. I wanted to do this again and went to 'obsolete audio effects' and selected dynamics (obsolete). I was then prompted with a question to use the newer version and checked "don't show this again" and accidentally proceeded with the new dynamics. Now every time I try to select Dynamics (Obsolete) I get taken to the new version.

My question is how do I get back the ability to use the Obsolete Dynamics and not get re-directed to the new one? I can't seem to find the options for it under preferences.

Thanks

[muhannad_alani]

1. in the Audio Track mixer window, click the small arrow in the left up corner

2. click the small arrow will show up when you move your cursor in any empty slot for master track or targeted track

- Amplitude and Compression > Multiband Compressor

3. Double click on Mutliband compressor

4. specify the threshold and attack and release and margin for the limiter

Muhannad,

[grandpooba2]

This limiter is far better than the obsolete one we are used to. Great job Adobe. I have seen the way. : )

[davidj94964383]

What limiter are you talking about? Because there are no new limiters on my 2017 fx...

[joec57486597]

Hi man, which liimiter are you talking about? I need help! I just need a simple way to limit audio to -2DB

[Hey Myshko]

Depending on how you used the obsolete 'Dynamics' effect, this might work using the new 'dynamics processing' effect:

1. Use the 'Input Gain' to increase or reduce the strength of the original file

2. Use 'Output Gain' to limit the max output strength

[Retcon_Media]

It's very inaccurate though. It doesn't actually limit to the output gain you set, you have to drag it lower until it looks like it's close enough. Not an acceptable workflow when you're doing broadcast deliverables that have a hard limit on audio levels.

[rogerwatling]

The loss of this filter that is embedded in many of our thousands of projects will be a real pain if another Jimmy Saville situation crops up, we could need to re-visit many of these projects we have in archive at VERY short notice.

[jamesc63111057 · Accepted solution]

Did not answer my question but after calling Adobe support they helped me fix the problem by doing the following.Go

1. Make sure Premiere Pro is closed

2. Go to Documents in Windows and go to Adobe and rename the Premiere Pro folder to "Premiere Pro.old"

3. Win + R -> type "%appdata%" -> go to Adobe

4. Rename the Common folder to "Common.old"

5. Rename the Premiere Pro folder to "Premiere Pro.old"

6. Launch Premiere Pro and see if the problem was fixed

7. Close Premiere Pro
8. Go to Documents in Windows and go to Adobe and inside the Premiere Pro.old folder, copy and of the settings within that folder that would correspond to any effects presets or windows layouts or any other past presets you may have created.

9. Done!

Hope this helps someone

[davidj94964383]

Correct Answerby jamesc63111057 on Nov 8, 2016 5:13 PM

Did not answer my question but after calling Adobe support they helped me fix the problem by doing the following.Go

1. Make sure Premiere Pro is closed

2. Go to Documents in Windows and go to Adobe and rename the Premiere Pro folder to "Premiere Pro.old"

3. Win + R -> type "%appdata%" -> go to Adobe

4. Rename the Common folder to "Common.old"

5. Rename the Premiere Pro folder to "Premiere Pro.old"

6. Launch Premiere Pro and see if the problem was fixed

7. Close Premiere Pro
8. Go to Documents in Windows and go to Adobe and inside the Premiere Pro.old folder, copy and of the settings within that folder that would correspond to any effects presets or windows layouts or any other past presets you may have created.

9. Done!

Hope this helps someone

I tried this and it didn't work. To make matters worse I called Adobe and even showed them this thread via screen share and they said there is no way to recover the old plugins and that they've been replaced. Why would they replace a great dynamics plugin with a stripped down compressor?

Moderator note to OP: Please don't use profanity. People of all ages use this forum.

[Snoyl99]

What are these instructions for a mac? I have the same problem.

[Snoyl99]

Figured out a partial remedy. I went to User/Documents/Adobe/Premiere Pro/11.0/Profile-"username"/Adobe Premiere Pro Prefs and renamed this file with the appendage "_old". Then I restarted Premiere and the problem has gone away, but I think there are other prefs removed as well..... Which I will have to set up again...

[CoralVision]

to trash preferences on mac OS:

1. Close all Adobe applications.

2. In Finder, Go-> Go to folder. Type '~/library ' (without quotes).

3. Application Support. Rename "Adobe" to "Adobe.old".

4. Again in User library-> Preferences. Rename "Adobe" to "Adobe.old".

5. Documents. Rename "Adobe" to "Adobe.old".

Now open Premiere Pro and use the same effect again.

Solution provided by Adobe Chat Support Staff member SARTHAK. Thanks Sarthak!

[lukec59567676]

Premiere will no longer open.

[сергейф91818962]

In fact, no need for all these steps, to reload dynamics obsolete you need only to rename "Adobe Premiere Pro Prefs" to "Adobe Premiere Pro Prefs_old", with closed Premiere in Documents\Adobe\Premiere Pro\11.0\Profile-*YOUR_PROFILE*

[stolenmeatball]

I have the same issue with Pitch Shifter. This is really killing my workflow right now. The new pitch shifter effect doesn't have the same options in the effect control panel. If you click edit you can get to the semitones and cents and I can get it to match a bit, but the audio pans really strangely between left and right channels now when using it. This didn't happen with the obsolete version.

[Richard van den Boogaard]

It's worthwhile to look at this short video in which Rich Harrington explains how the new audio effects have been deprecated in CC 2017. Deprecated means that they should be replaced by newer versions ported over directly from Audition, but they will still work - for the time being. Since they have been designated as Obsolete, in a future version these effects will be deleted from the application.

https://www.lynda.com/Premiere-Pro-tutorials/New-audio-effects-deprecated-audio-effects/530688/55840...

[CoralVision]

I have the same problem on MAC OS - can anyone offer an analogous solution for my platform?

[shrig]

I was able to bring up the promt for the old DenNoiser plugin again by deleting this line from the Adobe Premiere Pro Prefs file:

<UIF.MessageBox.DontShowAgain.AskReplaceDeprecatedAudioFilters.DeNoiser>32</UIF.MessageBox.DontShowAgain.AskReplaceDeprecatedAudioFilters.DeNoiser>

I had also accidently clicked "do not show again" an then yes.

I didn't want to risk deleting all my preferences, so I tried this approach. I think it should work the same with Dynamics and other old effects.

rogerwatling​ exactly. Just another example of Adobe not caring at all about their existing customers nor being able(or willing to) relate to somebody who is actally using their product, as opposed to sitting in their marketing office. Sadly this seems to come with a monopoly position.  I'm propably switching to resolve with the next version.

[FixitnPost]

I had the same problem with my Pitch Shifter (Obsolete) where I accidentally clicked 'yes' to the prompted to use the new Pitch Shifter effect. That happened a month ago and I didn't find a solution that worked. (This was not my personal computer and I couldn't access or change user preferences and system files.)

Today I revisited the problem, but trying a dumb idea that worked.

1. I used another '(Obsolete)' audio effected on a clip.

2. Selected 'No' when the prompted to use the newer effect came up. (I didn't not check the 'Don't Ask Again' checkbox.)

3. Then tried applying the Pitch Shifter (Obsolete) again.

The obsolete effect was used instead of the newer effect and I was not prompted to use the new one either. I only had to do this once. I closed and reopened Premiere and could use the obsolete effect again without repeating the process above or being prompted.

[8grapes]

I'm not sure if you still need a solution for this but I found one just now out of desperation as well. 

1. You have to open the file where you last used that obsolete effect. 

2. Go over to the Editing tab and right click the Obsolete effect you used.

3. Save the Preset into another name that you like.

4. Search for that name in the Effects folder.

5. You will then find the obsolete audio effect!

I've had problems with Pitch Shifter today and I tried everything. It worked tho ;____; 

Have a nice day!