Overlay or paste over audio segment

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Howdy! I have a simple project: one video track and one audio track.

I'd like to remove a couple of loud noises from the audio track.  The background is crowd noise so I can easily copy/paste a couple of seconds from one part of the audio track over the noises and nobody would notice. I've used this trick for years in Audition to remove mic pops without a problem. But Premiere behaves differently.

I cut a segment from the audio track to copy/paste it over the offending audio -- I later discovered that I could also copy between an in-and-out point, but it has the same problem. 

Here's the before: the selected audio-only clip is the part I want to copy and I want to paste it at the playhead:

Before.jpg

I can either Alt+Drag the before or Copy/Paste, but either operation causes the red tags to appear:

After.jpg

Note that the operation worked as I hoped it would and I can shorten the tail length of the pasted audio to cover only the sounds. 

However, I don't understand why there are out-of-sync markers on the video track (which is not selected), as I didn't change the length of the audio track.  The paste operation overlaid instead of inserting (nothing to the right of the paste moved), which is exactly what I want -- so nothing should be out of sync. I tried it again with sync lock turned off, and with the video track locked and it had no effect -- the video is still marked as out-of-sync.

Also, the pasted audio is marked with +16;08 which looks like the displacement from the original clip.  Why is it telling me this -- is the paste somehow linked to the source?

Can I just ignore these warnings? If I click on the marker it says "Move into Sync" or "Slip into Sync".  There is no "ignore" option.  Clicking on the video track +/- tag and selecting either option has no effect. Clicking on the audio track and selecting either option undoes the paste.

I could choose to ignore these myself, but if I reopen the project in a year or two, I won't remember what these are for.  It would be better if I could delete the out-of-sync markers since I don't believe anything is really out-of-sync -- is it?

Thanks!

 

 

 

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I would leave it on and also check Show Duplicat Frame markers.

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Overlay or paste over audio segment

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Howdy! I have a simple project: one video track and one audio track.

I'd like to remove a couple of loud noises from the audio track.  The background is crowd noise so I can easily copy/paste a couple of seconds from one part of the audio track over the noises and nobody would notice. I've used this trick for years in Audition to remove mic pops without a problem. But Premiere behaves differently.

I cut a segment from the audio track to copy/paste it over the offending audio -- I later discovered that I could also copy between an in-and-out point, but it has the same problem. 

Here's the before: the selected audio-only clip is the part I want to copy and I want to paste it at the playhead:

Before.jpg

I can either Alt+Drag the before or Copy/Paste, but either operation causes the red tags to appear:

After.jpg

Note that the operation worked as I hoped it would and I can shorten the tail length of the pasted audio to cover only the sounds. 

However, I don't understand why there are out-of-sync markers on the video track (which is not selected), as I didn't change the length of the audio track.  The paste operation overlaid instead of inserting (nothing to the right of the paste moved), which is exactly what I want -- so nothing should be out of sync. I tried it again with sync lock turned off, and with the video track locked and it had no effect -- the video is still marked as out-of-sync.

Also, the pasted audio is marked with +16;08 which looks like the displacement from the original clip.  Why is it telling me this -- is the paste somehow linked to the source?

Can I just ignore these warnings? If I click on the marker it says "Move into Sync" or "Slip into Sync".  There is no "ignore" option.  Clicking on the video track +/- tag and selecting either option has no effect. Clicking on the audio track and selecting either option undoes the paste.

I could choose to ignore these myself, but if I reopen the project in a year or two, I won't remember what these are for.  It would be better if I could delete the out-of-sync markers since I don't believe anything is really out-of-sync -- is it?

Thanks!

 

 

 

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I would leave it on and also check Show Duplicat Frame markers.

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because the audio you've pasted is out of synch with the picture.  If you turn on the timecode display in the program monitor and put your playhead somewhere during the piece of audio you've pasted you'll see the timecodes don't match...  I imagine a few years down the road if you play the section you'll understand why you did it, but maybe you should put a marker in the sequence at that point explaining what you've done.  

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Thanks for the clear explanation.  This looks like a useful warning, but I wish it wouldn't tag the video, which is not out of sync (at least there's no time displacement next to the tag so I guess that's a clue).  I don't want to turn off the markers because I have accidentally shifted video vs. audio before, but it appears to be a lot more difficult to do accidentally now with the sync lock. 

I have now tried editing the clip in "Edit Clip in Audition", which was surprisingly easy.  It created a .WAV file for the segment, which I was able to easily edit, and Premiere then replaced the clip with the .WAV file. The .WAV file is another asset to track, but no big deal.  I couldn't hear the transition so hopefully Premiere blends the audio the way that Audition does.  I also suppose those .WAV should be as short as possible -- found a couple of 1GB .WAV files in the folder that I somehow created (maybe during exporting). 

Thanks again!

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Un-checking this OOS.PNGoption might help:

 

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I would leave it on and also check Show Duplicat Frame markers.

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Thanks for the tip.  Now that I know what they're for, I decided to leave them on to avoid accidentally getting audio/video out of sync, which I've done accidentally before in older versions of Premiere.

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It took me a while to find "Show Duplicate Frame Markers" -- turns out it's in the timeline settings accessed by the wrench and puts a cyan line at the bottom of the timeline.  That looks useful, so I'll leave it on.  Thanks!

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Thanks for the tip. Now that I know what they're for, I decided to leave them on to avoid accidentally getting audio/video out of sync, which I've done accidentally before in older versions of Premiere.

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Ack -- can't delete duplicate posts.  Little "... More" box is empty.  Sorry.

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No one cannot delete a post, not even mods. Its awful forum software.

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