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Render times are significantly slowed by the 14.4 (and beyond) update!

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Apparently, this isn't a "Known Issue" to Adobe because they have released two updates without addressing this issue.

Hardware encoding for version 14.3 is SIGNIFICANTLY faster than 14.4 and 14.5, upwards to literally 5x times faster. Have been trying to render a  couple videos the past couple days and the render times were out of this world slow (a 2 hour video took 5 1/2 hours to render!). I checked my task manager to find my CPU's (9900k) utilization was around 10%! Even worse, my GPU's (2080ti) utilization was at 20%.

These updates have ruined encoding times, because they severely underutilize the CPU and GPU. The solution is to downgrade from 14.5/14.4 to at least 14.3.2. 

I hope I have helped solve an issue for people like me who were wondering why the heck were rendering times so bad. Please fix this!!!

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Render times are significantly slowed by the 14.4 (and beyond) update!

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Apparently, this isn't a "Known Issue" to Adobe because they have released two updates without addressing this issue.

Hardware encoding for version 14.3 is SIGNIFICANTLY faster than 14.4 and 14.5, upwards to literally 5x times faster. Have been trying to render a  couple videos the past couple days and the render times were out of this world slow (a 2 hour video took 5 1/2 hours to render!). I checked my task manager to find my CPU's (9900k) utilization was around 10%! Even worse, my GPU's (2080ti) utilization was at 20%.

These updates have ruined encoding times, because they severely underutilize the CPU and GPU. The solution is to downgrade from 14.5/14.4 to at least 14.3.2. 

I hope I have helped solve an issue for people like me who were wondering why the heck were rendering times so bad. Please fix this!!!

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I would like to highlight this problem after trying all versions for hours. Both for proxies and for video export, in Premiere and Media Encoder renders are extemely slow. This is not happening in 14.3.2 but renders are much slower in following versions.

I have both Intel (9900k) and AMD (3950X), GPU 2080ti, 32gb RAM 3600mhz and render times are awful. They are fine in 14.3.2 and earlier versions. BIOS, Windows updates and everything are OK.

 

Adobe, please, PLEASE, fix this issue.

 

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I would like to state no one has stated the newer versions of Premeire Pro are not causing problems for some people. That being said we cannot assume it is 100% Premiere Pro at fualt. A little trouble shooting must be done. The forum members have to ask questions and offer suggestions that might be helpful. Keep in mind windows can have registry problem. Geforce Settings can affect the Premiere Pro updates. Someone could be using Geforce Game Ready Drivers instead of Studio Drivers. Suggestions like that have helped other people in the past with updates but each update is different.  That being said it is not wise to badmouth mouth people who are trying to offer help.

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My system works. The video below might be worth watching.

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This video is essentially off-topic and has nothing to do with the versions causing extreme slow render times. 

I'm not ignorant. I'm a YouTuber that has been using Premiere for years and I know how to set up my system. The fact is the versions beyond 14.3.2 have an issue causing the CPU and GPU to be underutilized. Test it yourself. 

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Th3birdman,

The video is 100% on topic. My build is above 14.3.2. I am demonstrating my system is not having the same problems as yours. That is not to say it will correct your problem but it might help other people. Premiere Pro needs to be set up 100% correctly. Some people are unaware of how to setup Premiere Pro.

My system would be 5X slower if I did not have things setup correctly. Do you now see my point? That being said a Windows Update can also cause problems.

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Except it's not on topic. This video does not demonstrate the difference between VERSIONS. 

It shows how this person has their settings. 

Render a 10 minute video in 4k on version 14.3.2. and then render it again on 14.4 or higher. 

I can make a video demonstrating the difference if you'd like. 

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And before you attempt a retort, I made a video. 

Notice how in your video, CPU utilization and GPU utilization are not in sync with each other? This is exactly the point that I'm making. At the end of your video, you achieve 100% CPU utilization but GPU is at 12%-- this is the OPPOSITE of what we want when using Hardware Acceleration (which is supposed to tax both components at the same time). The beginning of your video demonstrates the issue with 14.5-- you're only getting ~20% CPU utilization.




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Th3Birdman,

Once again. My video is 100% on topic. Rendering is more about encoding and decoding as opposed to CUDA. Switching the ecoding and decoding options may not help you out but it might help others. I admit there could be a problem with Premiere Pro on your system. That being said if you have an Intel CPU try enable the IGPU in the BIOS. Then select Intel for rendering and see if it is any faster. I doubt it will be but you never know. As you can tell by the image below both my GPUs are being used. cpu gpu.jpgquick sync.jpg?



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Before I continue this back and forth with you, please uninstall 14.5/6, and do this same test with 14.3.2. 

Please provide transparent results. That would be much appreciated, because we are not on the same page, and I feel like it's a waste of my time engaging with someone talking about something else. Please, just do me the favor. I am open to accepting your results. 

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Th3Birdman,

We don't need to download the older version of Premiere Pro. What you can do is create a simple 10 minute long sequence by copying and pasting six 30 second long files to reach 10 minutes in length. You can upload the small files and we can copy and past them into a sequence on our sytems and compare reults. My method will also work. Your method requires a small risk to my computer but mine does not. Do you see my point?

That being said what if my system with a new version of Premiere Pro renders faster than your system using an older verrsion? I am not saying that will happen. I am asking what conclusion would you come to if that does happen?

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Birdman,

Sorry. I actually have seen this and I think that something may have gone awry with some settings or am missing a workflow issue some are engaging in while others are not (personally, my exports fly, even on this old machine because it has Intel Quick Sync, perhaps).

Can we get your full system specs so we can see what's going on? Otherwise, I have no idea what to suggest. (Edit: I watched your video). It sounds like some component of your system might not be working. 

Another issue is that an inordiate amount of people seem to be checking off export options that are not needed, and they drastically affect export times, like "Render at Maximum Render Quality" and "Render Maximum Depth." (Edit: what happens if you disable these? I noticed you had Render at Max Quality enabled). I did notice you had these enabled in both situations.

I would also look at your GPU and how it is working with Mercury Playback Engine, and especially for Hardware Encoding and its associated preferences. (Edit: these seem to be enabled accordingly).

A closer inspection of these items is where I'd start in the troubleshooting process. Hope I can assist.

Thanks,
Kevin 

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Thank you for your response (and the comment on the video) Kevin. 

I play around with the settings a lot. It is my personal goal to get the highest quality at the fastest render speed, based on my system. That box being checked has made zero difference in my render times, which is why it was checked in this video-- all I did was open up a file I'd previously been working on. 

Further, in my video, the box was checked on both renders, nullifying Maximum Render Quality as the culprit of poor CPU utilization. The videos render just fine in 14.3.2-- I've tested it with and without. CPU utilization still hangs at around 21% with the setting checked or not in 14.5.   

I'm sorry to say, the culprit is most likely 14.4, which has legacy code embedded in 14.5 and 14.6; it is not my system or settings. I just redid my test with 14.6, and it's still underutilizing the CPU. 

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Kevin,

My system renders super fast as well. I wonder if Th3Birdnam's computer might have a glitch deep in the OS. One of the Premiere Pro updates made my CPU fan constantly spin at 100%. I got a repacement motherboard and now it works better. I don't know why Premiere Pro would make my fan constantly spin a 100% but it did. Only one other person had the same problem.

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"My system renders super fast as well."

"Super fast" is a relative term. My PC is "super fast", if we're comparing it to PP 2018, for example. My PC could be "super fast" in comparison to yours. What do you mean by this? What are your specs and render times?

"I wonder if Th3Birdnam's computer might have a glitch deep in the OS"

Apparently, I have a glitch in MY system once I updated PP to 14.5, but that same glitch magically disappears when I'm using 14.3.2. Lol, come on man 

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An upgrade made my fans spin at 100% but only one other person experienced it. That being said you are assuming everyone is having the same problems you are having. Perhaps we are and don't know it but Windows could have done an update between Premiere Pro downloads on your system. The Windows updates can cause problems. You could enable the IGPU and opt for Intel's Quick Sync to see if it makes a difference. It might it might not. You could also test a couple of sequences from different projects with different codecs and see if the newer updated version of Premiere Pro is always slower. It might be. 

Last but not least you could make a new sequence with 6 short 20-30 second video clips (small files) and upload them for us to use and we could compare results. Will our results match yours? There is only one way to find out. That might be better than asking people to install and older version of Premiere Pro on their computer.

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OK, now I think I'm done speaking with you Andy. You and I both know that installing a previous version of Premiere Pro is ridiculously easy and not an inconvenience at all. I am not asking anything unreasonable, but you are being stubborn, refusing to even attempt to replicate the results I'm having. Any scientist worth his salt would do that in order to actually diagnose a problem, but what you are intent on doing is asserting there's an issue with my system. 

The reason I know you are being willfully ignorant on this point is that you have posted that same off-topic, copy/pasted video on a number of these threads, handwaving everyone's issue as "not having the proper settings". We can't all be experiencing the exact same issue after not having any at all before the update, Andy. I made a video showing that I got two different results when there were no differences in SETTINGS, and the only difference was THE BUILD. 

There are a number of threads on this board expresssing this EXACT issue-- it's not my system: 

Larry TL's thread: https://community.adobe.com/t5/adobe-media-encoder/low-hardware-usage-when-rendering-but-it-s-worse/...

Default's thread: https://community.adobe.com/t5/video-hardware/suddenly-slow-export-times-very-low-cpu-and-gpu-usage/...

Ywkangvoa's thread: https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro/slow-encoding-issue-on-premiere-pro-14-4-not-14-3-or-14-...

Zoltans' thread: https://community.adobe.com/t5/animate/exporting-a-video-takes-ages-cpu-gpu-usages-very-low/m-p/1145...

Then here's a screenshot of someone on YouTube also having this issue: 

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Here's another screenshot on Reddit ( https://www.reddit.com/r/premiere/comments/jeybkz/premiere_pro_145_october_2020_release/) of users having this issue: 

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So no, I'm good on your "advice" buddy, because you seem incapable or unwilling to accept that there is an actual issue with the program beyond 14.3.2. You won't even test the system, so I can no longer engage with you in good faith. Good day sir. 

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@Kevin-Monahan My suggestion is that you take a look at what I've provided in the above post-- there are too many people having this exact issue, and statistically speaking, we cannot all be having the exact same issue with our PCs. There is an issue with the builds beyond 14.3.2. I have replicated my tests with 100% consistency. 

14.4 seems to be the culprit, and the code from this build seems to have been applied to 14.5 and 14.6. Here are my results with EACH build:

14.3.2: 60% CPU utilization on average/ 89% GPU on average
14.4: 23% CPU utilization on average/ ~50% GPU on average

14.5: 21% CPU utilization on average/ 60% GPU on average

14.6: 22% CPU utilization on average/ 55% GPU on average

Clearly, after 14.4, something happened. CPU utilization is down across the board. Switching back to 14.3.2 solves this issue. This means that it is not my PC, but the build itself. If I'm able to freely switch back to a previous version and have no issues (which I am), then it's the build. That's just a fact.

I've performed every test that has been suggested in this thread, and have replicated the results over and over. Even if you'd like to boil this down to my system, 14.4 and beyond changes something fundamentally, requiring changes/a different setup to someone's system-- how can this not be seen as an issue with the build? If you updated your iPhone, and the update changes something that requires you to alter your settings, no one would suggest the phone is the problem. Why are we doing this here? 

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@Th3Birdman I have seen some of those issues as well, iow that renders in earlier versions came out fast while they now take forever. I have not found out why but since i use the same hardware today it must be Premiere Pro.

 

A couple of days ago a 35 minute timeline wanted several hours to complete. I ended up rendering out it to the GoPro CineForm codec and then used TMPGEnc Video Mastering Works to create my H.264. Not the ideal solution, but it saved me hours.

 

I just wanted to confirm that there are some issues with the recent versions of Premiere Pro. I have not had the time to dive into this and trying to find out what the problem is. All i do know is that it is not the computer or the settings in Premiere Pro.

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Thank you. 

I appreciate someone else not regurgitating the same old "it's your hardware". 

I used to test for bugs way back in college. I know for a fact that when there are updates to builds, developers sometimes introduce code that affects something else. This is inevitable and I do not blame them, they are human after all. 

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I know for a fact that when there are updates to builds, developers sometimes introduce code that affects something else.

 

100% correct. I have been on betas for several companies and learned that fact there.

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Th3Birdman

First of all no one is saying there is not a problem with the newer version of Premiere Pro. That being said are you sure everyone will have the same exact experience as you? Downloading and older version of Premiere Pro could infact make changes to my Windows registry and the Nvidia settings. I don't want to take the chance of messing up my system. Perhaps deleting the older versions might help your system. I am not saying it will.

Keep in mind it is easier for you to enable the IGPU in your bios than for me to download an old version of Premiere Pro. You can always dissable the IGPU with no harm. It seems like you would want to test out Intel's Quick Sync just for fun to see how it compares to Nvidia. I am not saying you have to use it.

An Nvidia Game Ready Driver could favor the older versions of  Premiere Pro while the newer version of Premiere Pro might work better with the Nvidia Studio drivers. I am not saying that is the case with your system. I am saying that changing Nvidia drivers has helped out people in the past. As I stated up front. No one is saying there is not a problem with the newest version of Premiere Pro. The forum members can only offer suggestions. They may or may not be helpful to you but they might be helpful to other people.

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"Downloading and older version of Premiere Pro could infact make changes to my Windows registry and the Nvidia settings. I don't want to take the chance of messing up my system. Perhaps deleting the older versions might help your system. I am not saying it will"


And just like that, any credibility you had with regard to how PP works just went out of the window. 

Anyone that has been using this software for any amount of time knows that rolling back to a previous version does NOT "mess up your system".  Just a blatant mistruth. I have been doing it multiple times to test these updates, with results and video evidence IN THIS VERY THREAD. Kinda puts the kibosh on the idea that your system is better attenuated than mine if you can't even rollback to a previous version, which means you probably shouldn't be here giving advice. 

Anyway, that was my last comment to you. I kindly ask that you stop addressing and responding to me. 

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Th3Birdman,

My system is not taking five times longer to render now as opposed to seven months ago. I would notice that and I would be complaining. That is not to say there isn't a problem with Premiere Pro's latest updates.  That being said any download (Nvidia, Windows, Intel, Adobe) or update can cause problems. Simply installing an audio card can cause problems. That is computers 101. 

As you can tell I will responde to your dishonesty like it or not. Learn to deal with it!

I was having probelms with a Premiere Pro update and I contacted Adobe and an Adobe Employee had full control over my computer and asked why I had seveal older versions of Premiere Pro on my computer. I stated I am always afraid of updating and the older versions might be my best option. I was once like you! The Adobe Employee stated that having several versions of Premiere Pro might be why my system is having problems. The Adobe employee did go into the registry and Nvida control panel (the same thing I did) but nothing the Adobe Employee did helped my system. He actually made it worse. I had to resinstal Windows and Premiere Pro. Everything worked fine after that. It sucks to have to wipe and reload Windows but sometimes that is the only cure. After that the new Premiere Pro update worked fine. It was infact something with my system. Did the older version cause the problem? Who knows for sure considering my computer had a few Windows updates as well as Premiere Pro updates. Windows updates don't always go well.

An Adobe Employee told me having several versions of Premiere Pro might cause problems. I am not saying it will. I am saying an Adobe Employee told me it might.

Once again no one has stated there is not an issues with the latest verson of Premiere Pro. That being said I am not going to download and older version on a system that is working fine nor should you want me to. I also want to add in the past the Adobe updates would mess up the CUDA and Quick Sync setting. I would have to reset them as did other people. So ya once again  my video is 100% was relative. That is not to say it helped with this update. Sometimes intsalling the latest Nvidia drivers can be the cure for an update or installing older drivers. People are going offer basic suggestions before dowloading and older version of Premiere Pro. It is par for the course.

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There is also one major thing not being discussed here.  I use Media encoder for pretty much every export.  The latest versions use the GPU for both decode and encode.  In the preferances in media encoder you can now tweak it to use CPU for Decode and only GPU for encode, or other combinations like CPU for encode, and GPU for Decode.

 

I have done some extensive testing as part of my work of switching over to the RTX 3090 and I can say that in some cases, turning on CPU for Decode and GPU for encode works signficantly faster than GPU for both encode/decode work.  I have not spent enough time to figure out in what cases this can be repeated.  But the this change, might be why you are seeign differances,  the older versiosn you referance, only used GPU to encode and always used CPU to encode.

 

I suggest, if you have nto already, to try this setting in media encoder preferances and see if explains some of your concerns.

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I shall test and report back with results. 

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I dont have a quicksync enabled CPU (I have a 10980xe), so may have other combiantions that makes sense, like using quicksync for decode may fair better than CPU.  To the best of my memory, I think the older versions used quicksync to decode video even when the GPU encode was added.  Since I didnt have quicksync I never paid much attention to that note I read, but it may be helpfull to you.  You already likly know this, but quicksync encode doesnt look very good comapred to nvenc or CPU, so probaby not worth trying quicsync for encode.

 

As a side note, update the video drivers, not sure what driver versions your using but the early studio drivers for nvidia gave me trouble, the latest versions are better.

 

Good luck in the quest,  I will say the stats from your original post for render times are a bit alarming, I have not seen anything that dramatic.  Hopefully a driver package update (if available) and trying the different encode/decode settings helps you narrow in on the issue.

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Nope, this did not make any difference:

(Performed on 14.6. 5Screenshot (865).png minute 4k video, maximum render quality off.)

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Not sure what to tell you,  swithing the decoder and encoder for sure makes a differance to to the utlization of each resource without fail.   I'm leaning towards something else is goign on with your setup.  Can you confirm your using the latest studio driver 457.30 for the nvidia card?

 

I know its a major dissruption, but you may have to trash the preferances and clear out the cache or maybe even do a clean install of premier/media encoder.

 

What your describing should not be possible, there will for 100% sure be a variance when switching encode/decode.  The 5.5 hours you described reminds of pre GPU enabled encoders and the CPU was doing all the work.  I think it would be worth it to do a clean install of at least Premier and your video card drivers (The check box in the studio driver installer should do the trick, but the gamers use some 3rd party tool to truly delete all the video card files that might be better in your case).

 

At this point, not sure how else to help you, I will however say its not a wide spread issue with premier code as the worst I ever get is 1:1 for render times....  you have something specific to your enviroment happening, that clean install may help you.

 

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It's getting frustrating dealing with you "it's your setup" people. 

If the system was working fine on the previous update, and it no longer is with the new update, IT'S THE UPDATE. 

I have literally provided evidence that, without changing anything except the build, there is significant difference in utilization. I cannot see how anyone watches the video and does not come to the conclusion that it's the update. There is another person in this thread stating they're having the exact same issue.

Post your build, do some tests and post your results. Show your upload times on 14.3.2 and then on 14.4/5/6. 

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Frankly, thats a rude response to anyone trying to help you.

Not sure why I should go to the trouble of installing an old version to prove to you its the same for me - I have no motiviation or gain to make such a claim.  Two people dont make a pattern.  But thousands not here to complain about this specific issue probably means its not the software in general as you belive.  

 

If people telling you they have no issues, and suggest that a clean install of the video drivers is viable investigative path and your not willing to try it, I suggest you open an offcial support ticket with Adobe.  I didnt come here tonight to be abused in anyway, I demonstrated respect to you - I have not done anything to you to warrant being the attention of your frustraton.

 

For the record, I never said your problem was not real, never questioned what you posted, even read (and watch watched the two videos) what you and others posted before responding to you.  I belive you are seeing a problem, I dont agree that everyone with version 14.6 has the issue.

 

I think I solved your problem,  your not going to dealing with this "you people", so you can rest now, no more frustration ahead for you.  I truly hope you find your answer so you can start to focus on your creativity again.

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"Frankly, thats a rude response to anyone trying to help you."

Nah, you just don't appreciate someone speaking to you frankly. Nothing rude about what I said-- I said it's getting frustrating engaging with people like yourself that just jump into the topic without even acknowledging the data that has been provided. Read through the thread; your suggestion isn't something that needs to be addressed. I tested exactly what you said, and showed the results. I asked you to show yours. You won't, hence the frustration.

"For the record, I never said your problem was not real, never questioned what you posted, even read (and watch watched the two videos) what you and others posted before responding to you.  I belive you are seeing a problem, I dont agree that everyone with version 14.6 has the issue."


Not a single one of you have provided any testing on separate versions, and instead have been providing setting changes, which is skirting the issue. The point that I have been making is that the different versions are the root of the issue. You are trying to put a band-aid on a gunshot wound-- even if I were to get a modicum of improvement, it still does not address the issue between versions:

TEST IT ON 14.3.2 THEN TEST ON 14.4/5/6 AND POST YOUR RESULTS. 

Jesus, it is not that difficult. 

"I think I solved your problem..."

Smart aleky response aside, I am the one that provided a solution in this thread. It's literally in the original post: downgrade to 14.3.2. It works. If anyone from Adobe would like to fix the issue that I'm referring to, great! But the issue is solved in the OP-- I was not asking for recommendations or suggestions. I was the one giving advice lol... 

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Hello again to everyone,

 

I have read every comment done in this thread in the last hours. I am afraid to tell you that I could not agree more in Th3birdman's case because I am suffering exactly the same issues in my 2 PC setups. And let me explain about this:

I am also a content creator and I also have both AMD and Intel processors and I could compare because I have been suffering exactly the same as him.

 

My Intel setup is an i9-9900k, 32gb RAM and RTX 2080ti. And my AMD setup is a 3950X, 32gb RAM and RTX 2080 Super. CUDA is, for me, a must. And even if it weren't the case, it would work equally well on both systems.

My main working setup is the AMD due to its cores and threads. I have been creating ProRes proxies from +3hr video files in less than 20 minutes until 14.4 came out for both Media Encoder and Premiere (taking more than 1 hour and 40 minutes for one ProRes proxy file). Exporting a simple H.264 1080p mp4 video is using CPU and GPU at the same time and rendering times got slower. It is a software developing error and I can confirm and hightlight it.

 

In fact, I realised this is a ".4" issue when I was uninstalling Media Encoder 14.4 and rolling it back to previus version but keeping Premiere to 14.5/14.6 and trying to render directly on Premiere. I also compared 14.3.2 render times and man... performance is very different.

 

What @Andy 1968 has shared is something very basic and I am more than experienced in that point. The main problem is that, regardless of Windows updates, Premiere performance (and also Media Encoder) must be at least the same as in previous versions and is worse. Moreover, Intel's QuickSync is not panacea and is not the solution, of course it is discarded for AMD users and also for the rest of users who want CPU or GPU encoding. We are in 2020 and this performance is NOT admissible.

Let me invite you to open Davinci Resolve, which I saw in your video that you have it installed and it is your Task Bar and please compare GPU usage while rendering and render times... your mind will change.

 

@Kevin-Monahan I would like to suggest you to take this case to the Premiere and Media Encoder tech team because this is not a hardware issue. There is big differences in rendering performance after jumping to 14.4.

 

Current solution is rolling back to 14.3.2 or rendering outside Adobe's ecosystem.

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iLuh,

That is awesome that you are very experienced but you are not the only one in these forums. If a forum member post information that is not helpful to you keep in mind the info might be helpful for other people.

That being said why are you creating proxies with your system?  I don't need to make proxies for DaVinci or Premiere Pro. The videos below will demonstrate that. The videos below are a little old but I will try to do an update comparison video just for you if I get some free time. What if on my system Premiere Pro renders faster and offers better playback performance than DaVinic Resolve? 




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Thank you Andy.

On the one hand I appreciate your attempt to help, but on the other it seems that what you want is to promote your content. 

My words are solid in what I wanted to explain before. Also, if you consider, you can take a look at Media Encoder community forums and you will see a lot of people complaining about latest versions, which makes you realize we are not alone in this. I repeat, I thank you for your attempt to help but this is not the issue you try to solve. It is a bad development issue. Nothing else.

 

Regards.

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Oh, and acoording to proxies, I use them because my files are x264 and in custom resolution, 3840*1080. Real-time playback working in a timeline using mp4 is not the best thing. It's better using other codecs and formats.

 

Take care and please, avoid spamming your content in many threads. It is not ethic.

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iLuh,

Thank you for the backhanded compliments. My videos posts are not spaming when you consider I only post them when rendering and playback is mentioned. My system can always playback multiple layers of any 4K codec. When someone cannot playback 1920 X 1080 I know there is a problem but I cannot simply blame Premiere Pro without a little trouble shooting. First would be the CUDA settings and the encode and decode settings. That is what my video covers. Second would be Nvidia Game Driver Vs Studio drives. Third would be Nvida Control panel settings. These have helped with upgrades in the past but all upgrades are different.

That being said no one has stated there is not an issues with the newer version of Premiere Pro.

I could setup a sequence with the resolution of 3840 X1080  and you could upload 6 or 7 short video clips (20 seconds) from your camera. I could then see if my system can achieve real-time playback without the need for proxie files. I admit there are few version of H.264 that Nvida and Intel cannot encode and decode. Your camera might use that verrsion of H.264.

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