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I may be mistaken but I thought this used to be a thing.  I wanted to try the new cc 2019 for a bit (and yes I know that this is risky to use new software once it's been released).  So yes I found bugs and it keeps crashing sporadically on copy and pasting a clip in a sequence and moving that said clip.

Either way I just want to save my work and go back to cc 2018 for a bit but there's not an option for this.  Do I just lose my work?

Quick note it's a sound synced multi-cam sequence embedded into another so Final Cut XML will not work here.

Thoughts?

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You don't need to download anything though ...

  1. copy your prproj project file
  2. on the copy, delete the .prproj extension, the period and all past it.
  3. right-click on the remaining file, go to 7-zip/extract here.
  4. open the file in wordpad.
  5. Starting down a bit from the top, you'll see:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>

<PremiereData Version="3">

    <Project ObjectRef="1"/>

    <Project ObjectID="1" ClassID="62ad66dd-0dcd-42da-a660-6d8fbde94876" Version="35">

        <Node Version="1">

            <Properties Version="1">

  1. see the place it says " Version="35" ... ?
  2. Change that number to 34 for 2018, 33 for 2017 ... and on as needed.
  3. Save the file.
  4. rename adding the .prproj to the file again.
  5. open in the version you just modded the project file for.

Not everything will translate back as there aren't the new toys in the older version ... but I've done this many times to take projects back so I can use them in "Direct Link" process with SpeedGrade, and never actually had a problem.

Always do this with a copy of the project file!

Neil

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I may be mistaken but I thought this used to be a thing.  I wanted to try the new cc 2019 for a bit (and yes I know that this is risky to use new software once it's been released).  So yes I found bugs and it keeps crashing sporadically on copy and pasting a clip in a sequence and moving that said clip.

Either way I just want to save my work and go back to cc 2018 for a bit but there's not an option for this.  Do I just lose my work?

Quick note it's a sound synced multi-cam sequence embedded into another so Final Cut XML will not work here.

Thoughts?

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Correct answer by R_Neil_Haugen | Adobe Community Professional

You don't need to download anything though ...

  1. copy your prproj project file
  2. on the copy, delete the .prproj extension, the period and all past it.
  3. right-click on the remaining file, go to 7-zip/extract here.
  4. open the file in wordpad.
  5. Starting down a bit from the top, you'll see:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>

<PremiereData Version="3">

    <Project ObjectRef="1"/>

    <Project ObjectID="1" ClassID="62ad66dd-0dcd-42da-a660-6d8fbde94876" Version="35">

        <Node Version="1">

            <Properties Version="1">

  1. see the place it says " Version="35" ... ?
  2. Change that number to 34 for 2018, 33 for 2017 ... and on as needed.
  3. Save the file.
  4. rename adding the .prproj to the file again.
  5. open in the version you just modded the project file for.

Not everything will translate back as there aren't the new toys in the older version ... but I've done this many times to take projects back so I can use them in "Direct Link" process with SpeedGrade, and never actually had a problem.

Always do this with a copy of the project file!

Neil

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Pretty roundabout but it works!

How about it Adobe? Is this the official fix?

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Official fix? No. Officially you cannot revert.

Its either xml or changing the project number, which has been done this way for quite some years now.

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You don't need to download anything though ...

  1. copy your prproj project file
  2. on the copy, delete the .prproj extension, the period and all past it.
  3. right-click on the remaining file, go to 7-zip/extract here.
  4. open the file in wordpad.
  5. Starting down a bit from the top, you'll see:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>

<PremiereData Version="3">

    <Project ObjectRef="1"/>

    <Project ObjectID="1" ClassID="62ad66dd-0dcd-42da-a660-6d8fbde94876" Version="35">

        <Node Version="1">

            <Properties Version="1">

  1. see the place it says " Version="35" ... ?
  2. Change that number to 34 for 2018, 33 for 2017 ... and on as needed.
  3. Save the file.
  4. rename adding the .prproj to the file again.
  5. open in the version you just modded the project file for.

Not everything will translate back as there aren't the new toys in the older version ... but I've done this many times to take projects back so I can use them in "Direct Link" process with SpeedGrade, and never actually had a problem.

Always do this with a copy of the project file!

Neil

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Of course one needs to download if one does not have 7-zip.

The program does not come with Windows.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
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You're thinking of After Effects which has the ability to save as to a previous version. For CC 2019 (version 16), you can save to 14.x or 15.x. And as noted, PR does not have this feature.

I'll emphasize the caution about the method described above. The main method (and different from Neil's) is to set the version to 1, so that any version, no matter how old, will convert the file. We don't know (at least I don't) how clever (or not) is the conversion. So if I am opening a PR CC 2019 project file in PR CC 2017, and it includes references to functions that exist in 2019 and not 2017, can it successfully ignore them or not? Does Neil's method help, by convincing PR CC 2018 that it is a 2018 file? Rather than an older version?

And btw, contrary to Neil's numbering, 2018 had 2 versions, 33 and 34. When 12.1.0 came out, you could not open 12.1.x in 12.0 or 12.0.1 etc.

Anyway, when needed, it is a reasonable thing to try.

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The method did work with a few minor inconsistensies.  Lumetri color profiles were pretty off, but that was manageable.

It did save me a good bit of time recreating the work I had done rather than completely reverting back to my older project.

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When in Win10, Explorer, right click on a file, 7-Zip is about the second option in the list of Open and all.

I've had this in Win7 also.

I've never downloaded it.

Neil

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You might have forgot about it....

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Had to sign in just to say thanks...

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This is extremely helpful, thank you thank you thank you

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First time I've ever posted here... I think.

Just wanted to say thank you that works a treat.

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Glad it helped you.

Neil

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Aug 14, 2019

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Bom dia.

Sua dica foi muito boa.

Mas tentei também e deu certo. Exportei do projeto feito na versão 2019 como (Final Cut (*.xml), depois abri o arquivo gerado direto na versão 2018 e abriu completo inclusive com as transições.

Grato.

Mesquita  

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Thank you R_Neil_Haugen, you're a life saver!

 

I can confirm this solution worked a treat for reverting CC 2020 files to the 2019 spec as well, in case anyone is encountering difficulty with the new version.

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Dec 21, 2018

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So I tried the steps to get back to the 2018 version and I'm getting an error msg, any ideas what to do?

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The on line method or Neil's method?

And what error message do you get?

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It's says " The Project appears to be damaged, it cannot be opened"

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Did you use the one line option or manually change the file? One or the other may have made a mistake...

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The oneline option? Can you elaborate please

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Sorry; a mistake on my part. There a website that converts the prproj file to version=1. It is not officially supported; I thought the link above was to that site; the link is to a youtube that explains Neil's method. Except I think the youtube recommends changing the version to 1.

You probably forgot to rezip the file, or made an editing error.

Check to see if your new file is zipped? I don't see that step in Neil's directions.

Make a new file copy and try again?

Watch the youtube video above?

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Thank you will do

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Here is a bash script I wrote to automate the process: Convert later versions of Adobe Premiere Pro .prproj files to CS6 · GitHub

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Is there a mac OS equivalent to 7-zip?

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7zip can perform multiple types of compression. The one used by Premiere Pro is gzip/gunzip. The Mac command line/console provides gunzip by default. See macos - Command to 'gzip' a folder? - Super User

7zip is not required for Mac or PC, all that is required is gzip/gunzip

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Command line amateur here.

So where the above instructions say  [right-click on the remaining file, go to 7-zip/extract here] I would [gunzip filename.prproj] in the Console? Then change the document in a text editor, and gzip back to a .prproj?

Thanks for holding my hand.

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Here is a bash script I wrote that does it all: Convert later versions of Adobe Premiere Pro .prproj files to CS6 · GitHub

Sorry, I can't hold your hand.

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gstuff720  wrote

Is there a mac OS equivalent to 7-zip?

Open a New Premiere Pro Project on an Older Version! Mac

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Keka in the app store

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Might I say this is crazy.   Adobe what is up...  Obviously you can open a 2019 project in 2018 it just takes a lot of steps.  Why not have a save copy in previous version?  Post a lot of warning about what might not work, but give us a chance. I have a very basic video project I need to hand over to a coworker who is still using 2018.  You are making me jump through hoops.  NOT COOL ADOBE!  Not cool at all.  My opinion of the company just went down a notch.  In the future I am certainly going to hold off upgrading to the next version of Premiere as long as I can to stay compatible with as many of my associates as possible.

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There are so many users that would appreciate an option that would do as you say. Offer to revert, with warnings that "X feature is unavailable in that version and will be disabled".

Adobe is driven by metrics. So go over to the links to the UserVoice system and vote up on both of the two top requests for this. Enough metrics, the upper managers open the budget bag to get something done.

Neil

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Sure - though its patently absurd that we should have to do that for what should be 'no-brainer' funcionality.  The feature parity in their apps is beyond frustrating.  For me - what I encoutner the most - its the layered PSD imprort / export in to  / out of After Effects that drives me out of my mind.  They really need to put a pause on adding shiny new crap and instead make these applications work together like a proper ecosystem.

 

Sorry - not really trying to vent at you, but having just stumbled acoss this thread after having need to save a Premiere 2020 file down to 2019 only discover its basically impossible just pushed my button.  lol...

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I couldn't agree more.  Given that nearly EVERY Pr x.0.0 release has had crippling bugs, it's inexcusable not to have a downgrading option built into the app.  This is hubris from Adobe.

I doubly agree with your sentiment "They really need to put a pause on adding shiny new crap and instead make these applications work together like a proper ecosystem."  Dynamic Link shows such promise, but even the latest builds of Pr and Ae still lose the links.  I'm constantly having to Relink Ae Comps in Pr that get lost when I reopen a Pr project with Linked Comps, or just save my Project in Ae, and switch back to Pr.  And half the time I reopen an a Pr Project with Links, if the Links are still working, they've become unrendered.

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