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Separate X and Y Position keyframes?

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Can I separate the X and Y position attributes so I can keyframe them separately? I know I can do this in AE, but can this be done in Premiere?

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Separate X and Y Position keyframes?

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Can I separate the X and Y position attributes so I can keyframe them separately? I know I can do this in AE, but can this be done in Premiere?

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Hi Ben,

The controls are exactly the same. Can you explain in more detail?

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Kevin

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Hi, Kevin...

In AE, you can right click on the position keyframe, and choose 'Separate Dimensions'... In this way, you can control the X and Y separately...

Can something similar be done in Premiere?

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Ben

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Yes

Unlock them so they are independent.

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One of the troubles with the way Premiere works is if you add velocity changes, easy in/out etc it works on both x and y together, it would be good if they could be separated.

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Does unchecking 'Uniform Scale' work for what you want to do?

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Howdy...

Where do you unlock them? Where is the 'uniform scale' checkbox...

Again, this is for Premiere Pro....

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Ben

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It looks like 'Uniform scale' is a resizing option, not a position option.. This will not let you set the X and Y coords keyframes independently

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Ben

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You cant do that in Position ands I am  not sure  how it would work there.

Its logical that they are linked.  An image can only be in one 2D space at a time so it will always have an X and a Y at any point.

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I appreciate your reply, but it is very logical and desirable to be able to separate the two.... That's why you CAN do the exact thing in After Effects. You can choose to have the X and Y coords separate in AE, but I guess not in Premiere...

For example... Maybe you'd like to move the X coord from the 1 second mark to the 10 second mark, but you'd like to move the y coord only from the 5 second mark to the 10 second mark... You can't do this in Premiere...

Anyways, I found a work around by setting the X coord keyframes, then nesting and setting the Y coords... A pain to be sure, but it works...

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Ben

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Can you show us  the effect of what you did?  a little movie?

If I got it right from what you said:

For example... Maybe you'd like to move the X coord from the 1 second mark to the 10 second mark, but you'd like to move the y coord only from the 5 second mark to the 10 second mark... You can't do this in Premiere...

I would have Key Framed move  1 (X direction),   from 1 second until the 5 second mark and added another KF for move 2 (Y direction) to  final position that ends at 10 secs.

The X and Y will always follow each other.

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So, give it a try...

You'd like to have the horizontal component of the move be linear. You'd like to vertical component of the move to ease out with a bezier curve...

You'd like to begin the X move at 1 second, and the Y move at 5 seconds...

Simple to do in AE....

Let me know how you'd do that in Premiere...

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Ben

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If you want x to move smoothly from 1 to 10 sec and y to move 1 to 5 sec with an easy in and out, the smoothness of the x is destroyed.

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Agreed.... That's why you want to separate the values...

Look, if there was no point in being able to do it, then they wouldn't let you do it in After Effects...

My only questions was whether you could also do it in Premiere, as it makes things very easy in AE...

I believe my question is asked and answered... No, there's no way to separate the values in Premiere the way you can easily do so in AE...

Does anyone know differently?

Ben

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This..

You'd like to have the horizontal component of the move be linear. You'd like to vertical component of the move to ease out with a bezier curve...


...explains what you want better to me  and I now get what you are asking.

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Hi Ben,

Bejamine Freedman wrote:

Hi, Kevin...

In AE, you can right click on the position keyframe, and choose 'Separate Dimensions'... In this way, you can control the X and Y separately...

I understand now. I could only locate the command in the Animation menu and Graph Editor in After Effects CC 2014.1. I could not locate it in the contextual menu.

Bejamine Freedman wrote:

Can something similar be done in Premiere?

I don't believe so. It sounds like a good feature request, though: http://www.adobe.com/go/wish

Thanks,
Kevin

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Another solution, add the transform effect to the clip, do the 'x' in the fixed motion effect and the 'y' in the added transform effect.

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Hey I did Position, then Anchor =]

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This solution worked for me—and seems to be the best workaround since Position does not allow you to keyframe X and Y independently, as you can in After Effects. I find this becomes a problem after adding easing.

 

I am doing some Ken Burns camera moves on photos and it was really bugging me that Y was changing value when I didn't want it to—especially after adding Ease Out and Ease In on my Position keyframes. Anchor Point served as my X coordinate and Position was my Y coordinate, and now my animations are more controllable.

 

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Right click "position" then click seperate dimensions from the drop down menu. You owe me a million dollars. 

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In Premiere Pro? I don't see that option in the submenu. 

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