Cover Page for epub eBook and question about xhtml doctypes for Index and Glossary

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Greetings,

 

I am evaluating different ebook editors and I am leaning toward RoboHelp 2020, however I have ran into a few issues.  The most important being the cover page for the epub book I would be creating.

 

I have put a cover page in the Front Matter that is a Topic with only the Cover Page image, see image.  In the Output eBook settings (set for epub) I have set the Cover Image to the same image.  When I compile for eBook there is no xhtml page and the epub does not have a cover page.  If I take out the cover in settings or take out Front Matter this still happens.

 

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I looked in Sigil and the cover image is in the Images folder.  I looked in the opf file and the information for cover is incorrect and is pointing only at the image.  The file has: 

in metadata
<meta content="image_cover" name="cover" />
and in manifest the id is wrong
<item id="cover-image" href="images/cover.png" media-type="image/png" properties="cover-image"/>
there is no reference in the spine or guide (this would be the references to the cover xhtml page)

 

Lastly, when I do open an epub file in Sigil it says there are errors.  I have found the _index, when included, and _glossary xhtml files are missing the tag <!DOCTYPE html> before the html tag.  Once in place Sigil no longer says the epub book has errors.  Is this by design or a bug?  I have tried to exclude the glossary but it still appears in the output, I can exclude the index.  When I upload the file to Google Play Books the book fails processing, which is what I would expect since the cover is messed up.

 

Thoughts?

 

If you are explaining how to do something please go step by step since I am very new to RoboHelp 2020.

 

Cheers,

Noral

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Are you all patched up? Check Help > Updates to check - you should be on Patch 7 by now [May 2022]. Are you following Peter's site's guidance? https://www.grainge.org/pages/authoring/rh_tour/rh2020/outputs/outputs_ebook.htm

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Hi Jeff,

 

Thank you for getting back to me.

 

Yes, the version I am on is 2020 patch 7.  I did see that resource and did read that link, sadly there is nothing about the cover image.

 

Noral

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Wouldn't the Cover Page topic just be the first topic in the TOC? I'm not sure what the "Front Matter" bit you have there is...

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I've never used ebook output so I don't know if that Adobe counts that output type as online or print. You could test by setting up a small online TOC rather than a book toc and see if that outputs correctly.

 

 

@Jeff_Coatsworth In RH2020 Adobe in their infinite wisdom decided the table of contents had to be completely different between web and print outputs. That's where the front matter and back matter sections come in.

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@Amebr - Thank you for explaining that ... I did not know how to put that into words since I am so new.

 

@Jeff_Coatsworth - Doing it as you suggests does do it as well.

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First let me say that I know little more about eBook publication than is in the topic on my site.

 

If I am not misreading your image, you appear to have a Book type TOC, then an inline TOC called Front Matter and another called Back Matter.

 

In the image below I have shown a Book TOC and an Online TOC already in a project and then I have added a new Book TOC labelled eBook. I have double clicked that to expand it on the right. You should be seeing something like that. There is more about TOCs at RH2020 The Table of Contents (grainge.org).

 

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I am not sure why you are seeing a glossary but I have a suspicion. You may have left the Glossary field as you see it here as you did not want a glossary. Click the dropdown and select None. Because of a bug, you will still see Select but None will apply. Until you do that, the other option of Default will apply. If that's not it, then I don't know.

 

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What happens after you hand over the RoboHelp output to the various tools such as Sigil is something I know nothing about. I did see on the Sigil site they appear to provide an authoring tool so I did wonder whether that would integrate better.

 

If none of this or the other replies resolve all the issues, then perhaps try Support. See https://helpx.adobe.com/contact/enterprise-support.other.html#robohelp for your Adobe Support options. The email link tcssup@adobe.com is recommended as it reaches a team dedicated to Technical Communication Suite products including RoboHelp. 

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They have opened their book toc by clicking the arrow icon, not by double-clicking on the name. It's displayed all in the side panel.

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I wasn't sure that is the case but having looked again at what I created, you are right.

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@Peter Grainge - I had already tried as you suggested with regards to the glossary, I even went as far as excluding the glossary but it still shows.  That is why there is a Back Matter (I had just deleted the glossary page before that screen clip was taken).  Sigil is a good tool, but not for authoring since you have to create each and every item from scratch - to me it is 7-Zip for epubs, albeit one that can edit text files and preview all files, but it cannot generate other forms needed, like a PDF for print.

 

I want to thank everyone who tried to help and I will keep an eye on this thread for an ultimate resolution, if it exists.  However, based on this simple task and the lack of resources for this product, books/tutorials and the like, I am now not considering RoboHelp.  I believe that Adobe has not thoughly tested this product just looking critically at the contents of the eBook.  Maybe these are bugs and it seems so few people use this product for eBooks that they just have never surfaced.  I may look at this product again if and when the cover image issuse is resolved and it is a pity, since this tool has something other epub tools I have tested do not have, the ability to insert raw HTML, specifically a table, that will not be rewritten, ultimately destroying its layout.

 

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I am not too surprised that you are looking at another tool. RoboHelp was developed with other outputs being the focus so whilst it is capable to producing eBooks, albeit with some issues, we don't see many people on this forum with queries. To me that suggests other tools with more focus on eBooks are the way to go.

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