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AI refusal is not accepted by moderators

Explorer ,
Dec 17, 2023 Dec 17, 2023

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Can someone tell me why I have so many rejections for AI images? I used mid-journey, I made 10 images per type 1 promnt, I looked at other popular bloggers for authors and Adobe stock analytics, and out of 390, less than 100 were accepted, this is very It’s a sad waste of a lot of time and I’m very upset by this approach of the moderators, I would be very grateful if anyone knows how to solve this problem or what to do for a higher percentage of content acceptance.  

 

In addition, I’ll say, maybe I don’t understand something, but when they don’t accept images on the theme of New Year and Christmas, then I completely fell, how can I not accept something that is currently in demand, why do they reject such images?

 

I added a small part of what was not accepted

 

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Community Expert ,
Dec 17, 2023 Dec 17, 2023

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I really hope someday that AI artist will stop working for quantity and start working for quality. That will reduce the time needed for reviewers to reject the huge amount of AI generated images that are in error. It will also increase the number of approved images and will help the contributors sales.

Here 10 images were posted. Sorry but I only looked at the first image and immediately found an error that is AI typical.

Looking further I see more than 10 mistakes. 

For instance, look at the first step of the stairs and the table. Where does one begin where does it end? Why is there a hole in it?

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Please review your images and edit out the mistakes.

 

(here the first mistake that I saw)

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Explorer ,
Dec 17, 2023 Dec 17, 2023

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It’s good if in images of the interior type the AI makes mistakes and for which the moderator does not let the content pass, but what can I say then for images of the abstract type? there is no relation to reality, no, it’s just abstractions and I have a lot of them rejected, I just can’t understand, I won’t deceive you and I put it that it’s AI and the client also sees, if you want perfect content, people can buy a photo and AI does what it can, in 99 cases in AI content can be found to a fault, I don’t see this as a reason to reject 90% of the content. and from one picture that you checked, can you draw a conclusion about all my images?

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Community Expert ,
Dec 18, 2023 Dec 18, 2023

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So, if I understand you correctly, assets can have issues because they are generative AI? The rule is that assets need to be "perfect" as buyers pay for "perfect" assets. 

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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New Here ,
Dec 17, 2023 Dec 17, 2023

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Hello,
I have had the same problem as you recently. It seems that images generated by AI are increasingly refused. I think Adobe wants to make a more qualitative selection. Out of 100 images submitted, I only have 15 that got through whereas before, I had 3/4 or even all of them.
Also, I have the impression that they have implemented an image pre-qualification algorithm because I have images which are refused after 1 day, something which did not exist before. They were refused after a few weeks.

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Explorer ,
Dec 17, 2023 Dec 17, 2023

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just a waste of time =(((

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Community Expert ,
Dec 18, 2023 Dec 18, 2023

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just a waste of time =(((


By @Denis5FBC

Then quit! Customers are wasting their time to sort out your bad assets from previous submissions, that got accepted erronously. Do you think this is a show to make you happy? Adobe allows contributors to participate in this, as it really helps them to keep their customer base happy. Check the other side of the fora (customer side), what customers think about your bad assets.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Explorer ,
Dec 18, 2023 Dec 18, 2023

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I have a newbie account, I’m just trying to make sales, and listen to people like I’m preventing someone from finding good material, it’s funny when searching for me, Adobe probably doesn’t recommend it, there are 300,000,000+ materials on the Adobe stock, a huge number of top sellers, what’s the problem? Accounts with bad materials that you need to look for yourself, which at the bottom of the search prevent someone from looking for materials? I’m even grateful to you. At first I was sad, but you lifted my spirits and made me laugh well.

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Dec 18, 2023 Dec 18, 2023

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I’m just trying to make sales,


By @Denis5FBC

Make sales with good assets. If you can't produce good assets, you are wasting your time, Adobe's time and eventuelly, if bad assets slip through, the customer's time. That's a lot of wasted time.

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Accounts with bad materials that you need to look for yourself, which at the bottom of the search prevent someone from looking for materials?


By @Denis5FBC

No as a customer, I expect that even the buttom of my search includes great and technically correct assets. My aim is not to sort out your bad assets. My aim is to find the correct asset for the theme I'm looking for.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Community Expert ,
Dec 18, 2023 Dec 18, 2023

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Also, I have the impression that they have implemented an image pre-qualification algorithm because I have images which are refused after 1 day, something which did not exist before. They were refused after a few weeks.


By @Gautier25758371shp1

"Before", moderation waiting time was around a day. All moderation is done by humans. If there is algorithmic support, that would be a good thing, looking at these massively bad assets.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Community Expert ,
Dec 17, 2023 Dec 17, 2023

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On the super shallow depth of field images, I've always seen a lot of those posted here as rejections regardless if its taken with a camera or generated with AI.  Those are rarely accepted from what I've seen on the forums, there is just too much out of focus and it's easy enough to apply blur as a filter in Photoshop.  The snow in one of these looked like a filter to me which could lead to a rejection as well.

 

As for the rest, I was able to spot generation errors in almost all of them.  Zoom in on the bows of the presents, I found a lot of subtle generation errors there.  Many of the tree tops were cut off.  In one of the room images, the plant on the table continued through the window.

 

I hope this perspective helps!


George F, Fine Art Landscape Photographer

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Explorer ,
Dec 17, 2023 Dec 17, 2023

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I’m grateful for the feedback, but here Toko 10 can be shown, I’m not saying that they’re ideal, it’s just a very big refusal, and I don’t understand why just a random image of the same type may or may not be accepted, it’s not even 50%, but less than 20 -10% logic 0, I will believe in the comment above that AI is checked not by a person but by an algorithm.

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Dec 17, 2023 Dec 17, 2023

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Adobe has 29,000 employees, and who knows how many of those are image reviewers.  With potentially hundreds or even thousands of image reviewers, there is bound to be some slight variation of moderation.  I think this shows that there are actual humans reviewing the photos.

 

This is just my own opinion, but I think we'll see most of the AI assets in the database with errors removed in the future.  I seem to remember a few accounts being suspended until AI assets that had errors were removed.


George F, Fine Art Landscape Photographer

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Explorer ,
Dec 17, 2023 Dec 17, 2023

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I don't really understand the logic? I have few sales, and for everyone, every download is like a holiday) and it’s hard for me, according to the experienced advice of those who have already achieved more experience in Adobe, but they don’t say study the market and do what’s best for you as a salesman, well, ok, how can I study the market demand for your product if there is such a large percentage of refusal, and a lot of images are much higher in quality than I did before, I made a small size on free models and they downloaded, but here in the mid-journey the size is higher, the quality is higher, there is no grain, the increase is also better quality, a surprise attack, it’s like working with your hands tied, that is, theoretically, from the fact that they rejected the seller, it could have brought me income, but no, I agree if we are talking about the interior, if very high quality is important to them, but then what about abstract backgrounds? or similar topics that are not realistic, they cannot then be judged by their standards, everyone sees the beauty and value of the image in their own way

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Community Expert ,
Dec 17, 2023 Dec 17, 2023

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It's hard to understand your point in this long run-on post, but there is one point to mention. You said "how can I study the market demand for your product if there is such a large percentage of refusal...".  Market demand has nothing to do with rejects. Adobe didn't reject your images because there's no demand for them. They rejected them because of generative flaws. 

Jill C., Forum Volunteer

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Explorer ,
Dec 17, 2023 Dec 17, 2023

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I made images in the same model, they are similar to the same topic, some images accept 10 out of 10, others do not accept 10 out of 10, there is no difference between them if you don’t look at them pixel by pixel, then you can be nitpicky about anything, and From the fact that they accepted, I have sold images, and from the fact that they rejected, there could also be sales, but no, I don’t need to prove to me that someone looks at each image pixel by pixel, they simply don’t have time to do that, absolutely random selection of images, there’s a lot of topics here forum and everyone writes the same thing, if Adobe stock simply reduces the % of AI acceptance then let them write and I will understand that every time out of 100 images I will have 10-15 accepted then there will be no questions

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Dec 17, 2023 Dec 17, 2023

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It is the job of the Moderators to find images of high quality to add to the database and to screen out images with flaws. That is what is required by Adobe's Buyers. Therefore, it is their job to be "nit picky". I did not have to zoom in to the pixel level to find errors. There are easily visible by zooming in between 50-100%.

Jill C., Forum Volunteer

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Dec 17, 2023 Dec 17, 2023

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What difference does it make to me that I have 10 images that I randomly posted here, you found a mistake, what should I do with hundreds of my other images that are in the type of illustrations and abstractions, why bother?? I spent time on them and wanted to see the return, but here the moderation simply kills motivation.. and my AI images were sold much worse in quality, this approach to content screening kills the opportunity for beginners to grow their account,  Is it really so difficult to set restrictions on the number of images per account on Adobe Stock, and increase the maximum size of images for an account based on sales!!!! and there’s nothing else you need to invent if someone spams the AI, he’ll simply fill his store with content very quickly and if there are no sales, he won’t be able to spam further!!! This is so easy to do, for this you need about a thousand people in a corporation to do this?? Such management automatically kills all problems, there are sales, fill in new content, there are no sales, delete old ones and upload new ones, and it’s absolutely incomprehensible that the AI generated crookedly, the most important thing is income, there are no restrictions on the maximum images on the account, people just spammed the AI, in the end the way out It's just an idea to simply reject 90% of the content.

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Community Expert ,
Dec 17, 2023 Dec 17, 2023

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Been here, done this. We've had these conversations before. Keep in mind that you are making your arguments with other contributors...not moderators. It is what it is, things are what they are, and they are not going to change with respect to how AI images are reviewed, accepted, or rejected by Adobe moderators. The points made by @Jill_C and @George_F are accurate and if you feel it's all been a waste of time, you might consider stock sites that aren't as stringent with their policies.


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Dec 18, 2023 Dec 18, 2023

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Is it really so difficult to set restrictions on the number of images per account on Adobe Stock, and increase the maximum size of images for an account based on sales!!!! and there’s nothing else you need to invent if someone spams the AI, he’ll simply fill his store with content very quickly and if there are no sales, he won’t be able to spam further!!! This is so easy to do, for this you need about a thousand people in a corporation to do this?? 


By @Denis5FBC

As a customer to stock, I search for assets, save the preview, build them into my into my mockup, present that to my customer, the customer aproves it, I licence the asset and see that it is unusable. So basically I need to return to the design phase again, and that did cost me and my customer thousands of dollars. When I pay for Adobe stock, I expect the assets to conform to certain quality criteria. 

 

Moderation is not a thing to refuse your assets or to prefer one contributor over a different one. Moderation is done to protect the customer from bad assets. This is a business, and the business goal is not to make you happy. You have one task: submit perfect assets. I as a customer do not care, how you achieve that, but if it would be easy, I would do it, without searching Adobe stock for the perfect asset. 

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Explorer ,
Dec 18, 2023 Dec 18, 2023

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I’ll tell you a secret that when you look at the preview and you didn’t notice something, it’s your fault, spend more time and check what you’re buying, this is capitalism, no one owes it to anyone, right? What worries me is how much time I spent on AI, no one, why did you write that you did something wrong somewhere and someone else is to blame there is no, there are a lot of stock photos as they wrote to me in the comments I don’t like it here, post it on others, I can say the same thing I don’t like it on Adobe to buy buy elsewhere. This is what a preview exists for, to familiarize the client with the product, otherwise the fact that you wished for time is purely an anecdote.

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Dec 18, 2023 Dec 18, 2023

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I’ll tell you a secret that when you look at the preview and you didn’t notice something, it’s your fault, spend more time and check what you’re buying, this is capitalism, no one owes it to anyone, right?


By @Denis5FBC

Denis,

I'm the customer! I come to stock to save time and money. When I see an asset in the database, I expect from Adobe that they did their due diligence. I expect that the asset is perfect. I'm the customer, Adobe is the provider. I will cancel with Adobe, if they don't deliver. I won't even know that your assets drove me off.

 

Searching for the right asset costs my company about $100 an hour. So, if I get a bad asset for that, I will blame Adobe. Period. If I don't like Adobe, I will use a different service.

 

But you are complaining that your assets got refused. I congratulate Adobe having them refused because they are not following the quality standards that I am used to get.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Dec 18, 2023 Dec 18, 2023

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You're kidding, right? I don't think AI stock is for you.


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You're kidding, right? I don't think AI stock is for you.


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He's reminding me of our Chinese suppliers. 50% of what we produce is scrap. But you can sort it out yourself. May be you will find even for the bad parts a screw and a bolt that fit. If you do not see the rust, it's not there. And if it breaks later, it's not our fault.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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[If] you didn’t notice something, it’s your fault....  This is what a preview exists for...

By @Denis5FBC

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  • Nope.  The customer is ALWAYS right. 
  • Low quality previews are NOT the same as full-sized images received after purchase. 
  • Dissatisfied customers complain and demand refunds.  
  • Excessive refund activity is grounds for termination. 
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Nancy O'Shea— Product User, Community Expert & Moderator

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