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I shoot aviation images at airshows and submitted several for consideration. They were all rejected as IP issues. When I search the catalog ai find numerous similar images that obviously made past the IP concern. So I resubmitted a few, changing specific jet names to generic terms, thinking the IP issue was in the title. Still rejected for IP. Any suggestions on this item? Here's an example of a rejected image.
Perhaps these images were submitted with an IP release, as Adobe requires - it's just a question of following Adobe's rules. But you would also need to remove aircraft id at the very least (as you would need to remove business logos, ship names or car number plates, even with a release).
As a start, all iddentifying marks must be removed. Also, the design might be protected. The design may be waivered if the plane is not the main subject.
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If you look more closely you'll probably see that the other accepted images are for Editorial Use only.
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I did think of that and a few are editorial, but many are not.
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Perhaps these images were submitted with an IP release, as Adobe requires - it's just a question of following Adobe's rules. But you would also need to remove aircraft id at the very least (as you would need to remove business logos, ship names or car number plates, even with a release).
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As a start, all iddentifying marks must be removed. Also, the design might be protected. The design may be waivered if the plane is not the main subject.
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Thanks everyone for your thoughts on this. I'm still not clear on how some aviation images have been accepted by Adobe for non editorial use. My research into the issue has shown a few things.
1. The need for an IP release is all over the board. General concensus seems to be it is probably necessary if selling the image commercially, but not for editorial use or selling fine art prints.
2. There is a next to zero chance of getting an IP release from any government or military group such as the Blue Angels or Thunderbirds - both are also trademarked by the military.
3. Removing aircraft markings may be feasible but will likely not help as the aircraft and formations themselves are still recognizable.
4. The airshow venue itself may have have restrictions listed on their tickets - mine did not.
5. Since images keep getting rejected, I've not yet been able to reach 100 images so that I can submit for Editorial Content on my airshow pictures. I need to switch categories of images for a while.
6. Interestingly I submitted the same images to Alamy and they were accepted - I just don't like the submission process at Alamy as much as Adobe and have had more success at selling through Adobe.
So with all that, I would like to call a close to this discussion. Thanks!
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3. Removing aircraft markings may be feasible but will likely not help as the aircraft and formations themselves are still recognizable.
By @TAlexanderPhoto
Give it a try. If you succeed with one picture, it may succeed with more pictures.
4. The airshow venue itself may have have restrictions listed on their tickets - mine did not.
By @TAlexanderPhoto
You will need to be able to identify the venue. The sky is free.
5. Since images keep getting rejected, I've not yet been able to reach 100 images so that I can submit for Editorial Content on my airshow pictures. I need to switch categories of images for a while.
By @TAlexanderPhoto
The threshold is 100 sales, not 100 pictures submitted. If you have an editorial portfolio with some other stock provider, you can contact contributor support, and they will be able to waive the 100-sales-threshold.
6. Interestingly I submitted the same images to Alamy and they were accepted - I just don't like the submission process at Alamy as much as Adobe and have had more success at selling through Adobe.
By @TAlexanderPhoto
The vetting process with Alamy is nearly non-existent (my opinion on that).
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