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Decline for Intellectual Property Violation--why???

Explorer ,
May 12, 2020 May 12, 2020

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Do not understand the decline since in their Premium selection there is a
photo in stock of Vietnam Memorial Wall almost identical. Just not as good
as this one. ;>]
I've just gotten started with the Stock program and need to understand the
rules of the game, I guess.

Any input would be appreciated.

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Community Expert ,
May 12, 2020 May 12, 2020

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Hi RonCar,

 

Usually famous landmarks are prohibited. I cannot say for the examples you speak of since you have not included the links in your post. However it is likely they are generic, or include public space. Please take a look at the guidelines at https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/property-release.html in details for more information.

 

Your photo appears to be totally taken on restricted property.

 

Best wishes 

JG

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Explorer ,
May 12, 2020 May 12, 2020

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I just got through the details. 120 years old before there is no need for releases. Restricted, why, due to crovid19?

But thanks for the response.

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LEGEND ,
May 12, 2020 May 12, 2020

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I think people expect moderators to be infinitely knowledgable, even psychic in some cases. For example, they don't include a property release for art BECAUSE THEY PAINTED IT, though how could the moderator know? Or, no model release for what turns out to be a self-portrait. Similarly, they aren't military historians (may not even be in the USA). If it looks like it MIGHT need a release, best to include one - help them out! By supplying a release you're taking liability if it turns out not to be true - Adobe like that, but as yours will be true, that's fine too... 

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LEGEND ,
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Perhaps for the other photo a correct property release was submitted? 

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Explorer ,
May 12, 2020 May 12, 2020

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You are probably right. I am submitted one today to NPS in DC.  See if they are helpful.

I appreciate your response and for thinking outside my box.

Thanks!

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Community Expert ,
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Hi Ron,

You need to appreciate the importance of releases. They are for our protection against legal action. There are certain little details that you will discover as you go along that will get some of your photos approved. I mentioned one in my reply above. 

 

Instead of lashing out against the moderators who are trying their best to protect us, why don't you attach the link of those you said are close to yours so we can have a better discussion as to possibly why they are approved?

 

Best wishes

JG

 

 

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Explorer ,
May 12, 2020 May 12, 2020

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First, I don't feel "lashing out" was the tone of my email.

Secondly, I feel you would be better served if you search Adobe Stock for the Vietnam Memorial. I doubt if you would trust my link.

Thirdly, I talked to the supervisor at the NPS(National Park Service) for the Mall. All the statues, monuments, buildings are considered Public Art under the supervision of the NPS. Public is the keyword here, therefore, anyone can take photographs and publish them. NPS says they cannot sign releases because the artwork is PUBLIC, and that is who the owner is--you, me, and all the citizens of the USA.

I am currently waiting for an email from said supervisor to share with Adobe support.

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LEGEND ,
May 13, 2020 May 13, 2020

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Thank you for sharing the results of your research. But do you really expect this is the sort of knowledge moderators will have for each possible building in the world? Support aren't interested in advancing single cases, I'm sure - that's just not ecomomic - you need to include a release. It would be very helpful if someone could explain how to fill out a release in this case.

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