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Explorer ,
Jul 14, 2022 Jul 14, 2022

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I submitted the attached images. One was approved. The others were rejected for intellectual property. I had the proper model release and property release. Which is it?

 

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Enthusiast , Jul 14, 2022 Jul 14, 2022

Chances are the IP violation is for other the Abu Garcia For Life logo on the cap or the Mossy Oak logo on the pants.  Were you able to get property releases for both of those brands?  If you didn't have property releases for the cap, then I would guess that your first photo, where the complete logo wasn't visible, was the one that was approved.  I am not sure if the reviewers noticed the Mossy Oak logo, but it is also visible in most of your pictures.  I hope this helps.

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Jul 14, 2022 Jul 14, 2022

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Chances are the IP violation is for other the Abu Garcia For Life logo on the cap or the Mossy Oak logo on the pants.  Were you able to get property releases for both of those brands?  If you didn't have property releases for the cap, then I would guess that your first photo, where the complete logo wasn't visible, was the one that was approved.  I am not sure if the reviewers noticed the Mossy Oak logo, but it is also visible in most of your pictures.  I hope this helps.


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LEGEND ,
Jul 14, 2022 Jul 14, 2022

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And don't forget the oil container. With fishing, check out the tackle too; a lot has logos or unique, recognisable designs... I know it's hard to stage a catch like that, but you really need to approach it like a studio shot, carefully staging and selecting every part of background (boat), props (tackle and boat stuff) and clothing. 

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Thanks. The most important part was it made the cover of Great Lake Angler
which I got paid more for than I'm ever going to make for it on here. The
attached image will be on the GLA August/September cover.

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I had a release for Abu Garcia. I didn't notice the Mossy Oak. Thx.

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Community Expert ,
Jul 15, 2022 Jul 15, 2022

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Logos, even with a property release, are a no go.

 

@Verbbaitum : As one was accepted, that was accepted by error. Don't make us lose our time with those quizes. And delete your e-mail signature before responding by e-mail. No need to attach a file, e-mails are text only.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Why have property releases then?

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You know that you can be banned as your signature contains also your website and that violates the terms of use of these fora. Sorry to have to point it out again.

 

I will reread the contributor requirements, just to check. Property releases give you the right to publish pictures that would be otherwise unpublishable. Logos are very specific properties. I feel that the assets should be refused on that grounds.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Hi @Verbbaitum ,

There are other issues such as overexposure and color fringing as in this screenshot.

Details are lost in the highlighted areas.

jacquelingphoto2017_0-1657832180268.png

Zoom in at between 100 and 200% to inspect for these issues in the rest of your file. The three latter files I look at are slightly overexposed.

You'll get some insight about property release guidelines here. There are some Adobe guidelines that you must observe to get your files approved. Also this link will help you to identify and correct other issues that can cause rejections. 

Best wishes

Jacquelin

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I think you should go back and re-read the responses forum members gave you last time you posted about this.  All of that awesome advice applies to these photos as well.

 

 


George F, Fine Art Landscape Photographer

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LEGEND ,
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One more trap in the IP area: name checking the magazine in the title it keywords. A magazine cover is editorial use and has much less stringent IP rules than an advert (which could be for a rival brand, a holiday, or an anti-fishing campaign...)

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The image in question was used on a magazine cover. I still retain the
rights and how it is used. First North American serial rights.

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Magazines also may get paid by the brand for showing their brand prominently. It's a different business. 🤫

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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You're right. It's called advertising or marketing. Just submitted a dozen
images. 11 were approved. Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn.

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I really would hate to report you for spamming. please delete your signature from your e-mails when responding here. 

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Go to Account Settings in your profile and update the signature field.

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@Jill_C wrote:

Go to Account Settings in your profile and update the signature field.


It's an e-mail signature, depending on @Verbbaitum's e-mail. If he doesn't know to get rid of that, he should answer via the web side.

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Last warning for your signature!

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