Sale without permission of other authors' products

[georsg75918100]

A doubt, how to denounce or put on notice that a product is being sold illegally and encouraged by Adobe the ease of performing this fraud?
For example:

https://stock.adobe.com/es/images/horror-font-alphabets-3d-style-text-effect-typography-vector-templ...

The author actually markets his font in

https://www.dafont.com/es/member_account.php?asort=nb_dl

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Una duda, ¿Cómo denunciar o poner en aviso de que se está vendiendo un producto de forma ilegal y fomentado por Adobe la facilidad de realizar ese fraude?
Por ejemplo:

https://stock.adobe.com/es/images/horror-font-alphabets-3d-style-text-effect-typography-vector-templ...

El autor real comercializa su font en

https://www.dafont.com/es/member_account.php?asort=nb_dl

[RALPH_L]

Is it the same author? If so, he can sell wherever he wants.

If not, the original author must take action. Adobe cannot proof all millions of the saved assets in the database. The contributor swears he is the owner. Actions must be taken against the contributor.

[Nancy OShea · Accepted solution]

Some friendly advice.  DO NOT MAKE FALSE CLAIMS ON PUBLIC WEBSITES.

Adobe takes Copyright, Trademark & Property ownership matters very seriously.

• What proof do you have?
• Do you own the asset? 
• As owner of the asset, did YOU file an official infringement complaint to Adobe?  See link below for details:
  https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/how-to-report-suspected-misuse-of-your-intellectual-p...

If not, then you should not post this on a public website.  This could get you in serious trouble.

[georsg75918100]

Hello Nancy O'Shea

I am the author, why are you threatening me?

As I understand it, can I easily upload another author's material and say that it is mine, since it is difficult to verify?

My query was where to write or notify, as I can't find an email or option on the adobe site, it throws me into a chat with a bot which in the end doesn't solve anything but turns out to be modern to integrate things into web pages.

Hola Nancy O'Shea

Yo soy el autor, ¿por que me amenazas?

Segun entiendo ¿puedo subir material de otro autor facilmente y decir que es mio, ya que es dificil la comprobacion?

Mi consulta era donde escribir o avisar, ya que no encuentro un mail u opcion en la pagina de adobe, me lanza a un chat con un bot que al fina no resuelve nada pero resulta moderno integrar cosas a sí en paginas web.

[Abambo]

Either write English or Spanish.

If you are the author, do not write in the third person. If you want to make a copyright claim, you can do so: Use of your content (C) Claim 

[Nancy OShea]

Your answer makes no sense. 

[Festive_epicness157F]

 

In fact, he is absolutely right. You are not allowed to use all font on the internet freely, but it has become such that today you can steal almost anything from the Internet without consequences. In the 'old days' you had to prove that the letters you used was public domain or that you had the rights to it. I myself only use public domain or fonts from Adobe. I don't want to risk a lawsuit.

[Festive_epicness157F]

"Adobe takes Copyright, Trademark & Property ownership matters very seriously." - obviously not.

[Abambo]

This is what I get, when I use your link:

[georsg75918100]

You are absolutely right

https://www.dafont.com/es/jmh-horror.font

[Abambo]

Sure, I'm right. 😏

[moe hong]

Hi! Long-time Monotype (not Adobe) employee here, now retired.

There is nothing illegal about this, as long as the font data itself is not embedded in the stock file being sold.

The license included on the typeface at Dafont allows the commercial use of the type. Converting it to curves/outlines and then selling the colored vector art does not violate this, as the points/curves in the new file only superficially relate to the original type.

If you are the owner of the font, you can certainly change the license, but I'm not sure you'll be able to distribute via dafont if you do that.

Accusing others of lawbreaking due to your own misunderstanding of license and IP issues is not a winning move, and may actually open YOU to liability.

[Abambo]

The license included on the typeface at Dafont allows the commercial use of the type. Converting it to curves/outlines and then selling the colored vector art does not violate this, as the points/curves in the new file only superficially relate to the original type.

By @moe hong

Interesting theory. I'm not exactly sure that you are right, but the arguments are quite convincing. It would be, however, too easy to put in a font as this simply in a different format. If transcoding is not allowed, I would consider this as a form of transcoding.

But if your theory is correct, it may be worth contacting a lawyer first.

[Nancy OShea]

Adobe Font licenses:

https://helpx.adobe.com/fonts/using/font-licensing.html

Adobe Stock Licenses and Terms of Use:

https://stock.adobe.com/license-terms

Adobe Stock Vector Submission Requirements:

"Avoid text unless it’s a necessary part of your composition, because buyers may need to select a substitute font."

https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/vector-requirements.html

[georsg75918100]

From what I understand, I can reverse the process, and make fonts with all the vectorized alphabets.
Or even simpler, take any typeface and vary something almost inappreciable in its measures and make a new font family and sell it cheaper.
It doesn't seem very honest to me, even if it is legal.

[Nancy OShea]

@georsg75918100,

Adobe Stock doesn't sell fonts.  If customers need fonts, they should source them from dedicated font services like Adobe Fonts, Google and others or go directly to the font foundry.

Adobe Stock is for obtaining royalty-free, commercial-ready artwork (images, photos, vector graphics, motion graphics, video, audio, templates). 

https://stock.adobe.com/

Stock Contributors cannot submit work to which they do not have 100% ownership rights.  That would violate Stock's Terms of Service & result in the Contributor's termination from Stock.  See requirements below.

https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/submission-guidelines.html

Any questions?

[Abambo]

It doesn't seem very honest to me, even if it is legal.

By @georsg75918100

That's 2 different things.

[Festive_epicness157F]

No - you are wrong. They are free for PERSONAL USE not necessarily for commercial use.

[Festive_epicness157F]

You can't even download genuine Monotype fonts without pay for them.