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Why has a property release been requested by Adobe for a photo of an astronomical subject

Community Beginner ,
Nov 28, 2022 Nov 28, 2022

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Hello, I'm a new contributor still trying to understand Adobe's way of doing things. A photo I submitted has appeared in the Reminder section as requiring a Property Release. The photo is of an astronomical object (the Eta Carinae nebula, small version attached) made from my backyard observatory. What can I possibly do about this?

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Community Beginner , Nov 29, 2022 Nov 29, 2022

Thanks everyone,

This is just to let you know that the image has now been accepted after I submitted a Property Release. (It remains puzzling though, given that other very similar images of mine have been accepted without having to go through this release rigmarole.)

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Community Expert ,
Nov 28, 2022 Nov 28, 2022

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It's possible that the Adobe Moderator thought that this was an illustration rather than a photograph, and wants you to provide a property release certifying that you are indeed the author / owner of the artwork.

Jill C., Forum Volunteer

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Nov 28, 2022 Nov 28, 2022

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That is a really impressive image especially considering it was done, not by NASA, but in a back yard observatoty,  To me it looks a lot like the images that NASA has on its website using rgw enormous resouces that NASA has at its disposal.  I suspect Jill C is right in her speculation that it might be a question of authorship and if you send them a release signed by you the author, that will work.

Again, congratulations on such a lovly image and best of luck with your impressive work.   

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 28, 2022 Nov 28, 2022

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Thank you both for your advice, and for your kind words Bob! Not sure how to go about sending them a release signed by myself, but I guess that's something I'll have to figure out.

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Community Expert ,
Nov 29, 2022 Nov 29, 2022

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Hello,

This should give you some guidelines.

Have a read about IP release requirements:
https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/property-release.html


How to upload a release
https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/upload-a-model-or-property-release.html

 

I think an IP release will be needed for these shots to prove that you took them yourself. 

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Nov 29, 2022 Nov 29, 2022

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We had the same situation a few weeks ago. It appears that moderators think that the outer space needs a property release. Create a property release where you state that you indeed are the creator and the photographer.

 

@MatHayward :

Do you have an idea why moderators are asking property releases? This is the second contributor complaining about this.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Community Beginner ,
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Thanks everyone,

This is just to let you know that the image has now been accepted after I submitted a Property Release. (It remains puzzling though, given that other very similar images of mine have been accepted without having to go through this release rigmarole.)

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Community Expert ,
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Glad to hear it. There are definitely inconsistencies in the moderation process, but I suppose you'll just submit any future astronomical images with a property release just in case...

Jill C., Forum Volunteer

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Nov 29, 2022 Nov 29, 2022

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My assumption is the moderator made a mistake. It doesn't look like a standard, backyard image of the stars so they most likely wanted to verify it was an image that you took yourself and didn't pull from a site or agency in a non-compliant manner. You should take it as a compliment, the photo is THAT good! 🙂  I'm glad you got it sorted out. 

 

thanks,

 

Mat Hayward 

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Nov 30, 2022 Nov 30, 2022

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Thanks Mat for clarifying and confirming what we all suspected.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Nov 30, 2022 Nov 30, 2022

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I just want to reiterate just what a technological feat it is photographing these far flung galaxies from a back yard observatorry, and getting results like these.  These are extremely weak subjects and they require hours of exposure, possibly over several nights and is is from a rotating earth.  That means sophisticated and precise tracking so the rotation of the earth is eliminated from blurring the image.  It also means high magnification so the galaxy is not just a spot of light.  The distortion caused by the earth's atmosphere needs to be considered.  NASA has access to large telescopes built on the tops of mountains (to reduce atmospheric distortions) here on earth as well as telescopes located in space, and budgets of billions of dollars to support their work.  

 

I take my hat off to Donovanimages for producing such impressive images and I hope that the Adobe Moderators are kind in the future. 

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They are! They accepted the pictures. And OP (and the community) knows now how to handle these refusals. Refusals like this are really easy to solution.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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