211 OpenType fonts available with Creative Suite

[Thomas Phinney]

(This message last edited 17 Jan 2004 to clarify details and remove one font from the list.)

Bonus fonts bundled only with the Creative Suite - and not with the individual programs sold separately - are the *entire* Warnock Pro Opticals family. Additionally, the entire Brioso Pro opticals family is offered as an online registration incentive for North American customers, as one of several choices of bonus goodies. If you get both, that's an extra 74 fonts! If you buy the applications separately, you still get 137 fonts, mind you.

If one buys single applications, they come with fewer fonts. To check out the differences, see the comparison here: Robert Levine, "Creative Suite vs. InDesign CS vs. Illustrator CS bundled fonts" #12, 5 Nov 2003 7:5..."> "Creative Suite vs. InDesign CS vs. Illustrator CS bundled fonts"

Below are the fonts you get in both "standard" and "premium" versions of the Creative Suite (the professional edition does not add more fonts). All of this, including the registration bonus, applies to educational purchasers as well as the regular retail versions of the applications.

Families represented:
(scroll down further if you want to see the list of individual fonts)

Adobe Caslon Pro
Adobe Ming Std
Adobe Myungjo Std
Adobe Garamond Pro
Adobe Jenson Pro
Bernhard Modern Std
Birch Std
Brioso Pro
Brush Script Std
Caflisch Script Pro
Century Old Style Std
Chaparral Pro
Charlemagne Std
Courier Std
Giddyup Std
Kozuka Gothic Pro
Kozuka Mincho Pro
Letter Gothic Std
Lithos Pro
Minion Pro
Myriad Pro
Myriad Std (Tilt & Sketch)
News Gothic Std
Nueva Std
Poplar Std
Prestige Elite Std
Rosewood Std
Ryo Kana Std
Stencil Std
Trajan Pro
Viva Std
Warnock Pro
Woodtype Ornaments Std

The full list of individual fonts in the suite:

ACaslonPro-Bold.otf
ACaslonPro-BoldItalic.otf
ACaslonPro-Italic.otf
ACaslonPro-Regular.otf
ACaslonPro-Semibold.otf
ACaslonPro-SemiboldItalic.otf
AdobeMingStd-Light.otf
AdobeMyungjoStd-Medium.otf
AGaramondPro-Bold.otf
AGaramondPro-BoldItalic.otf
AGaramondPro-Italic.otf
AGaramondPro-Regular.otf
AGaramondPro-Semibold.otf
AGaramondPro-SemiboldItalic.otf
AJensonPro-Bold.otf
AJensonPro-BoldIt.otf
AJensonPro-It.otf
AJensonPro-Lt.otf
AJensonPro-LtIt.otf
AJensonPro-Regular.otf
AJensonPro-Semibold.otf
AJensonPro-SemiboldIt.otf
BernhardModernStd-Bold.otf
BernhardModernStd-BoldIt.otf
BernhardModernStd-Italic.otf
BernhardModernStd-Roman.otf
BirchStd.otf
BriosoPro-Bold.otf
BriosoPro-BoldCapt.otf
BriosoPro-BoldDisp.otf
BriosoPro-BoldIt.otf
BriosoPro-BoldItCapt.otf
BriosoPro-BoldItDisp.otf
BriosoPro-BoldItSubh.otf
BriosoPro-BoldSubh.otf
BriosoPro-Capt.otf
BriosoPro-Disp.otf
BriosoPro-Italic.otf
BriosoPro-ItCapt.otf
BriosoPro-ItDisp.otf
BriosoPro-ItSubh.otf
BriosoPro-Light.otf
BriosoPro-LightCapt.otf
BriosoPro-LightDisp.otf
BriosoPro-LightIt.otf
BriosoPro-LightItCapt.otf
BriosoPro-LightItDisp.otf
BriosoPro-LightItSubh.otf
BriosoPro-LightPoster.otf
BriosoPro-LightPosterIt.otf
BriosoPro-LightSubh.otf
BriosoPro-Medium.otf
BriosoPro-MediumCapt.otf
BriosoPro-MediumDisp.otf
BriosoPro-MediumIt.otf
BriosoPro-MediumItCapt.otf
BriosoPro-MediumItDisp.otf
BriosoPro-MediumItSubh.otf
BriosoPro-MediumSubh.otf
BriosoPro-Regular.otf
BriosoPro-Semibold.otf
BriosoPro-SemiboldCapt.otf
BriosoPro-SemiboldDisp.otf
BriosoPro-SemiboldIt.otf
BriosoPro-SemiboldItCapt.otf
BriosoPro-SemiboldItDisp.otf
BriosoPro-SemiboldItSubh.otf
BriosoPro-SemiboldSubh.otf
BriosoPro-Subh.otf
BrushScriptStd.otf
CaflischScriptPro-Regular.otf
CenturyOldStyleStd-Bold.otf
CenturyOldStyleStd-Italic.otf
CenturyOldStyleStd-Regular.otf
ChaparralPro-Bold.otf
ChaparralPro-BoldIt.otf
ChaparralPro-Italic.otf
ChaparralPro-Light.otf
ChaparralPro-LightIt.otf
ChaparralPro-Regular.otf
ChaparralPro-Semibold.otf
ChaparralPro-SemiboldIt.otf
CharlemagneStd-Bold.otf
CharlemagneStd-Regular.otf
CourierStd-Bold.otf
CourierStd-BoldOblique.otf
CourierStd-Oblique.otf
CourierStd.otf
GiddyupStd.otf
KozGoPro-Heavy.otf
KozGoPro-Medium.otf
KozGoStd-Bold.otf
KozGoStd-ExtraLight.otf
KozGoStd-Heavy.otf
KozGoStd-Light.otf
KozGoStd-Medium.otf
KozGoStd-Regular.otf
KozMinPro-Bold.otf
KozMinPro-Heavy.otf
KozMinPro-Light.otf
KozMinPro-Medium.otf
KozMinStd-Bold.otf
KozMinStd-ExtraLight.otf
KozMinStd-Heavy.otf
KozMinStd-Light.otf
KozMinStd-Medium.otf
KozMinStd-Regular.otf
LetterGothicStd-Bold.otf
LetterGothicStd-BoldSlanted.otf
LetterGothicStd-Slanted.otf
LetterGothicStd.otf
LithosPro-Black.otf
LithosPro-Bold.otf
LithosPro-ExtraLight.otf
LithosPro-Light.otf
LithosPro-Regular.otf
MesquiteStd.otf
MinionPro-Bold.otf
MinionPro-BoldIt.otf
MinionPro-It.otf
MinionPro-Regular.otf
MinionPro-Semibold.otf
MinionPro-SemiboldIt.otf
MinionStd-Black.otf
MyriadPro-Black.otf
MyriadPro-BlackCond.otf
MyriadPro-BlackCondIt.otf
MyriadPro-BlackIt.otf
MyriadPro-Bold.otf
MyriadPro-BoldCond.otf
MyriadPro-BoldCondIt.otf
MyriadPro-BoldIt.otf
MyriadPro-Cond.otf
MyriadPro-CondIt.otf
MyriadPro-It.otf
MyriadPro-Light.otf
MyriadPro-LightCond.otf
MyriadPro-LightCondIt.otf
MyriadPro-LightIt.otf
MyriadPro-Regular.otf
MyriadPro-Semibold.otf
MyriadPro-SemiboldCond.otf
MyriadPro-SemiboldCondIt.otf
MyriadPro-SemiboldIt.otf
MyriadStd-Sketch.otf
MyriadStd-Tilt.otf
NewsGothicStd-Bold.otf
NewsGothicStd-BoldOblique.otf
NewsGothicStd-Oblique.otf
NewsGothicStd.otf
NuevaStd-Bold.otf
NuevaStd-BoldItalic.otf
NuevaStd-Italic.otf
NuevaStd-Light.otf
NuevaStd-LightItalic.otf
NuevaStd-Regular.otf
PoplarStd.otf
PrestigeEliteStd-Bd.otf
PrestigeEliteStd-BdSlanted.otf
PrestigeEliteStd-Slanted.otf
PrestigeEliteStd.otf
RosewoodStd-Fill.otf
RosewoodStd-Regular.otf
RyoDispStd-Bold.otf
RyoDispStd-ExtraBold.otf
RyoDispStd-Heavy.otf
RyoDispStd-Medium.otf
RyoDispStd-SemiBold.otf
RyoTextStd-ExtraLight.otf
RyoTextStd-Light.otf
RyoTextStd-Medium.otf
RyoTextStd-Regular.otf
StencilStd.otf
TrajanPro-Bold.otf
TrajanPro-Regular.otf
VivaStd-Bold.otf
VivaStd-Light.otf
VivaStd-Regular.otf
WarnockPro-Bold.otf
WarnockPro-BoldCapt.otf
WarnockPro-BoldDisp.otf
WarnockPro-BoldIt.otf
WarnockPro-BoldItCapt.otf
WarnockPro-BoldItDisp.otf
WarnockPro-BoldItSubh.otf
WarnockPro-BoldSubh.otf
WarnockPro-Capt.otf
WarnockPro-Disp.otf
WarnockPro-It.otf
WarnockPro-ItCapt.otf
WarnockPro-ItDisp.otf
WarnockPro-ItSubh.otf
WarnockPro-Light.otf
WarnockPro-LightCapt.otf
WarnockPro-LightDisp.otf
WarnockPro-LightIt.otf
WarnockPro-LightItCapt.otf
WarnockPro-LightItDisp.otf
WarnockPro-LightItSubh.otf
WarnockPro-LightSubh.otf
WarnockPro-Regular.otf
WarnockPro-Semibold.otf
WarnockPro-SemiboldCapt.otf
WarnockPro-SemiboldDisp.otf
WarnockPro-SemiboldIt.otf
WarnockPro-SemiboldItCapt.otf
WarnockPro-SemiboldItDisp.otf
WarnockPro-SemiboldItSubh.otf
WarnockPro-SemiboldSubh.otf
WarnockPro-Subh.otf
WoodtypeOrnamentsStd.otf

[_jamesrome_]

I may be dumb, but where are these fonts located? Are they installed by default? Theyt do not appear on my font list. I do have Adobe ATM 4.1 installed on XP Pro.

I am using the Premium Creative Suite and the two extras disks appear to be identical - One says Resources and Extras Premium disc 1, and the other says Standard.

[_Guy_Smiley_]

jamesrome@adobeforums.com wrote in
news:2ccdbf88.124@webx.la2eafNXanI:

> I may be dumb, but where are these fonts located? Are they
> installed by default?

They are installed by default in the Program Files/Common
Files/Adobe/Fonts directory.

[_Stuart_Marks_]

> ...the entire Brioso Pro opticals family is offered as an online registration incentive for North American customers...

Is this incentive still available? If so, is there an expiration date? I'm trying to do some budgeting....

Thanks.

s'marks

[Neil_Keller]

The last time I went through registration, it was an inconspicuous link at the very bottom of the list of all your registered Adobe software. Emphasis: very inconspicuous.

Neil

[Thomas Phinney]

Yup, it's still available.

T

[_Raphael_Freeman_]

I am ordering the package outside of the US, if so, do I get Brioso (without the opticals, which I understand is only an incentive for US customers)

[Neil_Keller]

Raphael,

As I recall, the premium is the entire Brioso family. And the premium is only available to CS software users with U.S. addresses, and only upon product registration.

Neil

[D__McCahill]

US and Canada, Neil.

[Neil_Keller]

Sorry Don.

I shoulda knowed betterer!

Neil

[_elvis_brown_]

That's great that we get all these fonts for no additional cost, but, why can't Adobe ask if I want to install additional fonts or better still, place them somewhere where I can manage them with a font manager, instaed of just being always available for all CS products everytime.

[_Dominic_Hurley_]

Just move them yourself and manage them. At least putting them in the Adobe fonts folder minimises any chances of causing clashes with other fonts you have.

[_TX_Designer_]

I can't seem to find Warnock Pro on any of my disks and it's not in my app support folder for adobe... i have CS Premium so doesnt it come with Warnock? Where can i find it if so..

[_Dominic_Hurley_]

If you read this thread, it should answer all your questions.

[_anton_marc_]

Are these fonts included in the CS package when purchased at Educational Discount ?

[BobLevine]

Yes.

Bob

[_gastroboy_]

Do you need to install them separately, because I don't see some of these oin my Type list?

[Neil_Keller]

Yes.

[_danpink_]

DO NOT PAY A NICKEL for a new Open Type font! All Roman fonts are missing at least one crucial letter: the small "barred L" (pronounced as a "w") used in Polish (e.g., the l in Lech Walesa's last name. The capital barred L, used less frequently, is there, but no small letter (or small cap). It's a shame. I thought this was going to be a real advance for those of us who have to use international characters, and Adobe techs have suggested it as a solution to a problem I'm having with InDesign CS. Sadly, it's not.

[Neil_Keller]

dan,

In a quick search, I selected Caslon Pro Regular, and I believe I just found the two characters you mention, l.c. at GID 146, Unicode 0142; s.c. at GID 305, Unicode 0141. And I found similar matches for a handful of other OpenType Std and Pro fonts I happen to have activated at the moment.

I don't wish to sound provincial about this or as if I'm dismissing the issue, but to a large extent, I think you're over-reacting. Although it is possible that these and other characters are missing from certain fonts, many other folks just don't need all glyphs for all languages. Unless someone needs to do typography that requires those missing characters, there is no reason not to buy specific fonts or types of fonts.

And consider the thousands of standard Type 1 and TrueType fonts that have far less adventurous character sets, yet have been more than adequate for most folks for many years.

Neil

[_Dominic_Hurley_]

DO NOT PAY A NICKEL for a new Open Type font!

Why not? Many OT fonts now include vowels with macrons, which I need for my work, and they are cross-platform, and they offer nice typographic features. I'm sorry that you haven't had much luck finding your glyphs in the fonts you won't to use, but that's a decision of the font designer or foundry (made, I'm sure, on a cost versus sales analysis), and not a reflection on the font format at all. OT is in fact a real advance for those who use international characters, but no one ever said all slots would be filled in all fonts.

[Neil_Keller]

Dominic,<br /><br />We leapfrogged over each other in our posts and my post-post edits. <vbg> <br /><br />I believe I actually found the missing glyphs in a number of OpenType Pro and Std fonts, and at least a few Type 1 fonts.<br /><br />Neil

[_Stuart_Marks_]

Hi danpink,

I'm on ID2, which has Adobe Caslon Pro and Adobe Garamond Pro. After some hunting around in the glyphs palette I was able to find the barred L in both upper and lower case in both of these fonts. As Neil pointed out earlier these are U+0142 and U+0141, respectively. The glyph palette (at least in ID2) isn't in Unicode order, though, so sometimes it's really hard to find certain glyphs. I found these two in the glyph palette around 50 table cells beyond the end of the normal lower case letters.

You might have run across the barred small cap L U+F6F9. This is a few table cells beyond the end of the other small caps. This is way off in the Unicode private use area (apparently where Adobe encodes its small cap glyphs) and so it's very far away from the lowercase barred L.

For many fonts, Adobe posts a "Glyph Complement PDF" file showing all the glyphs for that particular font. That way you can see whether a font has the glyphs you need before you buy it. For example, I don't have Minion Pro Regular, but by looking at its glyph complement file I was able to determine that it does have the upper and lower case barred Ls. Look near the bottom of this page to find the link to this glyph complement file.

s'marks

[Steve Werner]

On the Mac, as an alternative to the ID Glyph Palete for finding Unicode glyphs, you can use the OS X Character Palette: In its Unicode mode, it can show glyphs in numeric order or by code sets. That's worth poking around in. It also has a great feature where you can select the glyph you want, and then see all the fonts on your system which have the glyph!

Steve

[Thomas Phinney]

All Adobe fonts that have a lowercase, and have a capital l-slash, also have a lowercase l-slash. So Dan is mistaken.

Adobe has been very clear about the language support in our OpenType fonts. It varies by font, but there are standard groupings of languages, and every page of our web sales site that the fonts appear on has that information available. For the l-slash and other accented characters needed for Polish, these are available as part of "CE" language support, which is present in every Adobe font with "Pro" in the name.

Although I sympathize with a desire to support more languages, I can't see that the fact that not all OpenType fonts support Polish somehow would mean that nobody should buy them. Polish support is far more common in OpenType than it was in Type 1.

Cheers,

T

[_danpink_]

Well. I've learned a good deal in this forum.

First, that a diplomatic (even if visibly frustrated) query is always better than a display of temper. Mea maxima culpa. At my age, I should know this.

I can only say that I had an extremely difficult week on the phone with Adobe. My problem was that InDesign CS would not export as a PDF file. It garbled my Monotype CE (Type 1) fonts. OpenType looked like it would solve my problems, and suddenly, it didn't look as if it would.

Thanks to Neil, Stuart, Steve, and Thomas, I can see that it will. And thanks to Steve's tip about Character Palette (I'm not sure that I said I'm on Mac OS 10.3.7), I can see that what Thomas said is true. I thought at the time of my first posting that it was commendable of Adobe to include a full set of international characters in its Adobe Pro OT fonts. But when I could not find the fairly common character I was looking for, I thought, "The concept is innovative but the execution is not up to snuff."

However, the execution IS up to snuff, so I thank Adobe for making my life easier. I'll get with the program and convert to OT, he said contritely. Adobe does include a small, attractive, and useful collection of font families with InDesign CS, and I'll gradually buy more. They look very good.

Question (and a polite one this time): The Monotype CE fonts had built-in macros that made accessing foreign characters relatively easy. Is there a faster way to access international characters besides searching through the glyphs until you find what you're looking for? In Word, I could write macros, but what about InDesign?