Thanks for providing the additional information.  I will uninstall PS from my E: drive and reinstall on the C: drive, likely tomorrow.  If that fixes the issue then there is an incompatability between PS and features of the Creative Cloud app.  I'll let you know what I find.  I do appreciate your support. ... View more

When you "system directory" are you actually referring to the Windows Registry?   ... View more

Can you give me some technical details why PS would need to be installed on the C: drive?  The Creative Cloud app has a setting where you can specify where CC apps are to be installed.  I have mine set to E://Program Files/ .  If PS has to be installed on C: then why will the CC app let me install it somewhere else?  Up to the time I tried to use the Remove Tool, PS worked fine installed on my E: drive.  Something isn't making sense. ... View more

Today (1/22/2024) I tried setting the Image Processing Preference to Cloud.  Photoshop still crashes when I try to use the Remove Tool.  What I don't know is whether or not using the Cloud support completely eliminates the AI software from using the NVIDIA graphics processor or just for some parts of the tool's operation.  Anyone know the answer?  It seems the more I try different approaches, run diagnostics that all say the hardware is good, and double-check the drivers to ensure I'm using the latest releases, the fingers seem to point at the Photoshop installation, possibly a quirky bug with my combination of hardware and software that was not checked in the qualification test suite. ... View more

The last thing I did was get on a chat session with Dell Tech Support.  The agent recommended that I install the graphics driver directly for NVIDIA rather than using the one supplied by Dell.  That's what I did.  Photoshop still crashes when I try to use the Remove Tool.   Anyone out there have the ability to pass this issue on to an engineering team for analysis? ... View more

I uninstalled Phoshop 25.3.1 and then reinstalled it.  Problem still exists.  Also made sure that Windows knows to use the NVIDIA GPU for photoshop.exe and sniffer.exe.  Photoshop says my graphics processor is compatible and it detects the NAVIDA GPU. ... View more

Windows 10 & 11 allow the location for the Program Files directory to be placed on drives other than C:  On my last system I had an SSD for C:, but over time as I added more apps and app updates became larger and larger, I eventually was fighting a memory usage problem on the C: drive.  I was really glad when Microsoft allowed apps/programs to be installed on other drives, although not all apps/programs allowed the installer to do that.  At least Photoshop could be installed on a different drive.  I eventually traced a large part of the memory shortage on the C: drive to an accumulation of files in C://Users/[my user name]/AppData/ Local/Temp/ where image files were being left (not deleted) when either Photoshop or Photoshop Elements Organizer were terminated.  After getting tired of having to constantly delete Temp files I eventually decide to replace my system.   My old system, other than for the C: drive issue, worked very well.  I suppose I could have upgraded the C: drive SSD, but I figured I'd be better off buying a new system and getting newer technology.   On my new system the E: drive is a 2 TB SSD so there's no sacrifice in performance and it keeps my 500 GB OS drive (C:) in a state with lots of available space.  In my opinion an app/program should not be written in a way that restricts where it can be installed.  Proper use of the Registry should allow for stuff to be put almost anywhere.  Hope that provides an answers that satisfies your curiosity. ... View more

I did do a Google search for André Kerstesz and found the image to which you referred.  It's quite interesting.  I found a few others as well.  Thanks for the suggestion. ... View more

That worked quite nicely as a clipping mask on a Brightness/Contrast layer.  Thanks again for the suggestion. ... View more

I did a couple other tests.  In Preferences > Performance my NVIDIA GPU was detected so I unchecked "Use Graphics Processor".  Photoshop still crashed after about 5 seconds following selection of the Remove Tool.  I did the same thing with "Multithreaded Compositing" and had the same crash happen.  I'm wondering if there could have been corruption of some part of the Photoshop installation.  Is there an integrity checker to validate that all parts of the installation are correct?  At this point I'm hesitant to just remove and reinstall Photoshop because I would then need to redo custom settings. ... View more

I did discover that Adobe provides a translation. So I will ammend my previsous response to say thank you for the information you provide. ... View more

Sorry but I don't read Spanish. ... View more

Good idea.  I'll give it a try.  Thanks. ... View more

Writing the post above got me to thinking more after I posted it.  I added a Photo Filter layer with a little bit of color and low density.  That gave me the results I wanted.  I would still like to hear other suggestions if any of you have found creative ways to accomplish this. ... View more

Here's something else I found, but don't know if it has relevance to my current issue.  It show three events for the NVIDIA graphic unit that happened yesterday all at the same time.  I don't recall anything that I initiated that would have added a service: And then here is what was recorded and visible in the Event Viewer for one of the crashes:   ... View more

Thanks for the link.  I did go there and went through the steps.  All was fine until I was in the NVIDIA Control Panel and selected Adobe Photoshop (photoshop.exe).  In the turorial it shows a choice of which graphics card to use.  In my case it showed a long list of settings to use for this program.  Based on all the other information I have, I think that the NVIDIA graphics card is the only one being used and that's the one that drives my two displays.  Here's a capture of the window that is displayed: Virtually everything is set to "Use global settings". Just out of curiosity I clicked on "Set PhysX Configuration" which displayed the window below, but I have no idea what it means or if it even has significance.  My back panel has 4 connectors and I'm using the left 2 when viewed from the back.   ... View more

Here's my system info:   Adobe Photoshop Version: 25.3.1 20231212.r.241 46eb480 x64 Number of Launches: 155 Operating System: Windows 11 64-bit Version: 11 or greater 10.0.22631.3007 System architecture: Intel CPU Family:6, Model:7, Stepping:1 with MMX, SSE Integer, SSE FP, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, AVX, AVX2, AVX-VNNI, HybridCPU(8:8), HyperThreading Physical processor count: 16 Logical processor count: 24 Processor speed: 2112 MHz Built-in memory: 32457 MB Free memory: 20805 MB Memory available to Photoshop: 24941 MB Memory used by Photoshop: 70 % Crash Handler: Adobe DCX Version: 7.13.2 SAM SDK Version: 7.2.0 ACP.local Status: - SDK Version: 3.4.0 - Core Sync Status: Reachable and compatible - Core Sync Running: 7.0.0.9 - Min Core Sync Required: 4.3.66.28 Live Edit Client SDK Version: 4.0.4 C2PA library version: adobe_c2pa/0.7.6 c2pa-rs/0.25.2 NGL Version: 1.35.0.19 Chalkboard: Disabled. D3D12Warp renderer: Disabled. Manta Canvas: Enabled. Alias Layers: Disabled. Highbeam: Disabled. Image tile size: 1024K Image cache levels: 4 Font Preview: Medium HarfBuzz Version: 7.3.0 TextEngine: Unified Text Engine ======= GPU Native API stable: True OpenGL API stable: True OpenCL API stable: True GPUDeny: 0 GPUForce: 0 useGPU: 1 useOpenCL: 1 isGPUCapable: 1 GPUName: NVIDIA RTX A2000 12GB GPUVendor: NVIDIA IsNativeGPUCapable: 1 IsOpenGLGPUCapable: 1 IsOpenCLGPUCapable: 1 HasSufficientRAM: 1 GPU accessible RAM: 12,124 MB Required GPU accessible RAM: 1,500 MB UseGraphicsProcessorChecked: 1 UseOpenCLChecked: 1 Windows remote desktop: 0 Windows available feature level: 12.2 Windows required feature level: 12.0 Windows has required feature level: 1 Display: 1 Display Bounds: top=0, left=0, bottom=1440, right=2560 Display Type: SDR Display: 2 Display Bounds: top=0, left=2560, bottom=1440, right=5120 Display Type: SDR ------- Sniffer output [0 ms] Launch GPUSnifferThread [0 ms] Start RunAllAPIs [0 ms] "E:\Program Files\Adobe Photoshop 2024\sniffer.exe" -baseTimeMS=25238757 -comment=Photoshop Version: Adobe Photoshop 25.3.1 20231212.r.241 46eb480 x64 [0 ms] Start GetSnifferResult [1183 ms] Start sniffer 2024-01-19 12:16:22 # Photoshop Version: Adobe Photoshop 25.3.1 20231212.r.241 46eb480 x64 E:\Program Files\Adobe Photoshop 2024\sniffer.exe -baseTimeMS=25238757 -comment=Photoshop Version: Adobe Photoshop 25.3.1 20231212.r.241 46eb480 x64 {47 ms} Start platform native # displays: 2 Display 0 Display: \\.\DISPLAY1 Main: TRUE Built in: FALSE Stereo: FALSE Bounds: (0, 0) -> (2,560, 1,440) Dimensions: (2,560 1,440) Physical size: (0 0) Pixel size: (0 0) Dynamic range: (0 1) Potential dynamic range: (0 1) Reference dynamic range: (0 1) Attached Device: (DeviceID name=NVIDIA RTX A2000 12GB index=0) Display 1 Display: \\.\DISPLAY2 Main: FALSE Built in: FALSE Stereo: FALSE Bounds: (2,560, 0) -> (5,120, 1,440) Dimensions: (2,560 1,440) Physical size: (0 0) Pixel size: (0 0) Dynamic range: (0 1) Potential dynamic range: (0 1) Reference dynamic range: (0 1) Attached Device: (DeviceID name=NVIDIA RTX A2000 12GB index=0) # devices: 2 Device 0 Name: NVIDIA RTX A2000 12GB Preferred: TRUE Power Envelope: UNKNOWN Attachment: UNKNOWN # attached displays: 2 \\.\DISPLAY1 \\.\DISPLAY2 GPU accessible RAM: 12,124 MB VRAM: 12,124 MB Dedicated System RAM: 0 MB Shared System RAM: 17,016 MB API version: 12.0 (12.0) Device version: 12.0 (12.0) Vendor name: NVIDIA Driver date: 2023-10-18 000000.000000-000 Driver age: 3 months Driver version: 31.0.15.3770 Supports UMA: UNSUPPORTED D3D-ID: 9585 Device 1 Name: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 770 Preferred: FALSE Power Envelope: UNKNOWN Attachment: UNKNOWN # attached displays: 0 GPU accessible RAM: 17,144 MB VRAM: 128 MB Dedicated System RAM: 0 MB Shared System RAM: 17,016 MB API version: 12.0 (12.0) Device version: 12.0 (12.0) Vendor name: INTEL Driver date: 2023-11-07 000000.000000-000 Driver age: 2 months Driver version: 31.0.101.4953 Supports UMA: SUPPORTED D3D-ID: 42880 End platform native {246 ms} {246 ms} Start platform OpenGL # displays: 2 Display 0 Display: \\.\DISPLAY1 Main: TRUE Built in: FALSE Stereo: FALSE Bounds: (0, 0) -> (2,560, 1,440) Dimensions: (2,560 1,440) Physical size: (0 0) Pixel size: (0 0) Dynamic range: (0 1) Potential dynamic range: (0 1) Reference dynamic range: (0 1) Attached Device: (DeviceID name=NVIDIA RTX A2000 12GB/PCIe/SSE2 index=0) Display 1 Display: \\.\DISPLAY2 Main: FALSE Built in: FALSE Stereo: FALSE Bounds: (2,560, 0) -> (5,120, 1,440) Dimensions: (2,560 1,440) Physical size: (0 0) Pixel size: (0 0) Dynamic range: (0 1) Potential dynamic range: (0 1) Reference dynamic range: (0 1) Attached Device: (DeviceID name=NVIDIA RTX A2000 12GB/PCIe/SSE2 index=0) # 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Where should I be posting issues like the one I made today?  Photoshop Ecosystem is the only one that seems to come up.  I have another strange situation that I'd like to get help / feedback on that may be a product defect. ... View more

OK, Hope that helps. ... View more

Thanks for information.  It would be really nice if it did support .psb files, but it is what is. ... View more

I haven't figured out how to do that with a mask on a Generative Fill layer.  Using a brush to remove some of the mask didn't seem to work.  I'm probably doing something wrong, but have no idea what. I ended up using the Sky Replacement feature which let me select a reasonable sky for this image just to make the sky more interesting since the original color image had a blue sky with no clouds. Then I was able to correct an artifact resulting from something I removed with a Generative Fill layer.  I applied a Brightness/Contrast layer as a Clipping Mask applied to another Generative Fill to get things looking smooth and continuous.   Likely the hard way to do it but it works and I'm satisifed.  Although I've been working with Photoshop for many years there's so much more I need to learn! As far as a comment I made about trying to retain image integrity, there are times that I think it is important even when it's not related to image use in commercial settings.  This image was a case where I was willing to let artistic creativity be the guide, rather than showing the scene exactly as it was originally photographed.  There certainly are a few people who would know that the image has been doctored, but they are not likely to ever see the final one.  Here's the original color image followed by the "new" black and white artistically creative image.  Thanks for all the helpful suggestions.  For anyone interested this photo was taken in Silver City, Idaho.           ... View more

The reason I went to Gnerative Fill is that it seemed like a reasonably direct (easy?) way to change or remove something that I didn't like or to which I wanted to make a modest improvement that didn't really change the basic nature of the image.  I guess I was expecting more capability from Generative Fill than was really available right now.  I have not seen a thread that suggest how to structure Generative Fill requests.  All that I've seen are the short, one sentence suggestions that come along with invoking the tool.  I'm also somewhat torn between leaving an image the way it was shot or making changes that don't retain the basic content and integrity of the original photo - in other words after eigher using Generative Fill or blending in part of another image, the new image is not the real scene, but rather some kind of abstraction of it.  In some ways it's a bit of an ethical dilema for me.  How I reconcile what to do must consider what the intent of the final image will be.  Am I trying to do artistic creation and "reality doesn't matter" or am I trying to show a real place as I saw and photographed it with just a few changes the enhance the composition.  These new technological advances sometimes make the decision as to what is acceptable to do much harder to make. ... View more

Had not thouight about doing that.  I'll need to figure out how to do it.  Thanks for the suggestion.  Much appreciated.      Bill ... View more

The sky that you added to my image is more of what I was hoping Generative Fill would provide.  I suppose that in time things will improve significantly.   Bill ... View more

I appreciate the feedback. I'm also wondering why the generative fill actually modifies areas that are outside the selected area. Bill ... View more

I had to recreate my attempt at adding clouds to the sky of a black and white image.  Exactly what you see below is a little different than what I saw yesterday when I was working on this photo.  This first screen shot is what I started working with.  Not quite all of the layers are visible in the layers panel.  There's a B&W layer at the top of the stack. The next screen shot shows my request to add a few high-level cirrus clouds to a portion of the sky.       And here is the resulting fill:   This is somewhat different from many of the results I received yesterday, but it still illustrates the problem.  First the clouds are cumulus and not cirrus and they are not along the top of the image.  They fill about 80% of the selected area.  Second, the Generative Fill added more mountains above the ones that existed before the fill was performed and are now blocking some of the sky. The ones added today are a bit more consistent with the real mountains in that location, while yesterday's were jagged, rocky peaks.  Third, there was a strange object added to the top of the outhouse and the lettering on the sign over the door that said "Shown by Appointment Only" has been changed to something that is not recognizable.  The outhouse was not in the selected area to be filled.  I will add that the instructions I gave to Generative Fill for this example are not exactly the same as what I was telling it to do in yesterday's attempt, but the general nature of what I was asking for is the same.  The other Generative Fill layers you see in the layer stack worked quite well to remove things that I did not want in the image.  For those Generative Fills I did not give instructions for what I wanted.  I just selected the area I wanted "replaced" then clicked on the Generate button and let it do its thing.   I'd appreciate any thought you might have about the way I'm trying to give instructions or whether I'm expecting the tool to do more than it's currently capable of doing.         Bill   ... View more

I'm also having trouble getting Generative Fill to create realistic clouds to use to enhance a bland sky.  I've asked for "a few small clounds" which generated a fill with a large mountain range and some big clouds, I've asked for "a thin layer of circus clouds" which generated cumulus clouds, and another one where an eliptical selection was made, asked for circus clounds and it generated nothing.  I'm beginning to wonder if the language understanding model is not able to parse out the key parts of my request.  I have had some pretty good results when I'm making a selection of something I want removed from the image.  In those cases I did not specify what to do, just clicked the generate button with no instructions.  ... View more