As I said, the first case was with simplified files, to prove that output sizes don't match input sizes. For a real world example,  please see this dropbox link: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/i2pn42wsawmyr1q/AAB3o3xUMTw8HXYu-NNtd2Bna?dl=0 AND - note the attached screen shot.  Highlighted file originals are each about 66mb, exported are 201mb.  Over 300% increased filesize. There's another issue - the source files, once modified, take a very very very long time for each to save, regardless of what kind of change was made.  The versions that were exported from a stack save in a short, reasonable amount of time.  I don't know why... Hoping for some insights... ... View more

Thanks Stephen. I just did the arithmetic:  140 files at 60 mb each is only about 8.2 gig, so I guess that's manageable.  Will try and see... ... View more

Hello Mangurian, Thanks for the quick reply.  I'm concerned about filesize.  Were your layers TIFFs/PSDs or JPGs? Thanks! ... View more

Adding a "Me TOO!!!" for 24.3 (most recent upgrade). Actions that have worked for years that save files are now failing with the error message: "Could not complete the command because of a program error".   Narrowed this down to the "save" statement in the action. I created a new, dummy action that duplicates a layer, then attempts to save. boom! [EDIT]:  Just reverted to previous version 24.2.1, and file saving via actions works as expected. How could a bug this obvious have still allowed the update to be released? ... View more

bwinkjet - thank you for the update. J E L - for me and I'm sure many many others - it's the holiday season now, and there's just absolutely no time to go through all the diagnostic efforts - again.  I started this post back in early July, and sadly, it sat in limbo for the bulk of the time since. For the various test paths you mentioned, I'll cut to the chase.  I completely paved my system (i.e. hard format on the primary hard disk), installed the OS, installed PS and the problem repro'd 100% of the time.  PS was a virgin installation; i.e. no changes to prefs, all under a completely clean box.  I'm not about to try all that again, knowing the extreme likelihood that doing so will get me different results this time around.  And again - especially not with the holiday season now in play.   I'm not the only one reporting this, so I'm not totally crazy.  In a wouldn't it be nice world, I'd love to see Adobe TS get involved, but I don't have the luxury of time any more, I just have to live with an unstable system; something I am certainly not excited about... Thank you... ... View more

Thank you, J E L. The challenging part - my past experiences with the Adobe support team have all been vast and deep rabbit holes with no solutions, broken promises to call back, and a few folks who actually deleted files off my desktop and kept going even when I was screaming STOP STOP STOP! All this mixed with a lot of finger-pointing at DELL, even though the experience (like this) is specific to Adobe products. ... View more

I've reported the same issue.  After launching and then quitting PS, it leaves behind a process that you can see in task mgr. As long as that process is present, PS will not <re>launch, since it doesn't allow duplicate instances. This has been an irritating, long-standing problem for quite a few months.  I first noticed it in PS 22, did a clean uninstall, and then a reinstall, problem existed.  No plug-ins were in use at that time. It also happened when I paved my production box, did a clean (obviously) install of PS, and the problem repr'd as well. This is now present in PS 24. ... View more

bwinkjet - Thank you, for at least confirming I'm not the only one seeing this. The issue with using TM, it doesn't always work, and it's really really a bad solution. There are times when it the PS process doesn't show in TM, but I still can't launch PS. If I have to use TM multiple times, when PS does happen to launch again, it's unstable.  Menus are screwed up (won't display text or icons) and overall behavior is extremely unstable.   Would really be nice to have some support from PS on this... Extra bonus - this also happens (but not as often) with LR classic. ... View more

Bumping to try to get answers, please. I just upgraded to PS 24, the same exact problem persists. This is a major issue, especially with the holiday photo season now beginning. Being forced to reboot my machine every time I relaunch PS really wastes a LOT of time. Can someone in the PS support community please help???  This problem has been a non-stop issue for many months now (it was happening long before I launched this thread). Thanks ... View more

Thanks, Cory -  I will double check, but as mentioned above, this was issue right after paving and reinstalling the OS on the box (and ensuring all drivers were current at that point). I won't be able to update drivers for another week or so, as I'm in production on a huge show I just covered this past Sunday honoring the wonderful and legendary drummer Alan White.  Alan was one of our very best friends, and musicians from YES, Queen, Heart, Journey, Dream Theater, TSO and many others who all flew in to perform the signature songs Alan had recorded on the originals (Imagine with J. Lennon, My Sweet Lord with G. Harrison, along with the YES catalog that he was drumming with since 1973 or so). So until I can finish off everything from this, I won't be touching the drivers of course... Thanks! ... View more

That's correct.  Slightly more detail: There are times that even when I use TM to delete the process that PS will not launch.  REBOOT needed <argh!> There are times that after PS has closed, that there's no obvious process (for me to delete), but PS still will not launch.  REBOOT needed <argh!> Quite maddening, especially when facing critical pub deadlines... Thanks again... ... View more

Hi JEL, Thanks for the review on my system.  At the time that I initially started this thread, my production machine had just been freshly paved, and all drivers were current (ensured by the TS team's review at Dell FWIW).  The issue we're discussing was present and problematic from the moment that the Adobe products I use (PS, LR) were installed.  I will get the video drivers up to date ASAP. The external drives are actually each internal SSDs.  My primary SSD has 3 separate partitions, one of which is E:\, and the secondary SSD has the H:\ partition. I will take a look at the Portrait Pro plugin, but this too was not installed at the time I reported the issue. Please note, FWIW, the problem also happens occasionally with LR, in which there's this weird leftover process, but LR seems to know how to get around it.  PS absolutely will not launch if there's the remnant PS process. So, I greatly appreciate your time for this, but don't think we're even close to the cause of this yet. Hoping you'll continue investigating!!! Thank you! ... View more

Hi JEL I didn't receive a notification that you had replied else I would have responded much much sooner.  This problem is maddening, and I often have to reboot my machine in order to relaunch PS.  Not a welcome work-around when I'm deep in the middle of edits and facing critical deadlines. 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from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf” Liquify 23.5 - from the file “Liquify.8bf” Matlab Operation 23.5 - from the file “ChannelPort.8bf” Maximum 23.5 - from the file “statistics.8ba” Mean 23.5 - from the file “statistics.8ba” Measurement Core 23.5 - from the file “MeasurementCore.8me” Median 23.5 - from the file “statistics.8ba” Mezzotint 23.5 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf” Minimum 23.5 - from the file “statistics.8ba” MMXCore Routines 23.5 - from the file “MMXCore.8bx” Mosaic Tiles 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Multiprocessor Support 23.5 - from the file “MultiProcessor Support.8bx” Neon Glow 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Note Paper 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” NTSC Colors 23.5 - from the file “NTSC Colors.8bf” Ocean Ripple 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” OpenEXR 23.5 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf” Optics 2022 NO VERSION - from the file “Optics.8bf” Paint Daubs 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Palette Knife 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Patchwork 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Paths to Illustrator 23.5 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf” PCX 23.5 - from the file “PCX.8bi” Photocopy 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Picture Package Filter 23.5 - from the file “ChannelPort.8bf” Pinch 23.5 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf” Pixar 23.5 - from the file “Pixar.8bi” Plaster 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Plastic Wrap 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Pointillize 23.5 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf” Polar Coordinates 23.5 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf” Portable Bit Map 23.5 - from the file “PBM.8bi” PortraitPro 3.1.0 - from the file “PortraitProPSFilter64.8bf” Poster Edges 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” PRC 23.5 - from the file “U3D.8bi” Radial Blur 23.5 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf” Radiance 23.5 - from the file “Radiance.8bi” Range 23.5 - from the file “statistics.8ba” Render Color Lookup Grid 23.5 - from the file “Export3DLUT.8be” Reticulation 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Retouch4me Dodge&Burn 1.0 - from the file “Retouch4me Dodge Burn.8bf” Retouch4me Skin Tone 1.0 - from the file “Retouch4me Skin Tone.8bf” Ripple 23.5 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf” Rough Pastels 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Save for Web 23.5 - from the file “Save for Web.8be” ScriptingSupport 23.5 - from the file “ScriptingSupport.8li” Shear 23.5 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf” Skewness 23.5 - from the file “statistics.8ba” Smart Blur 23.5 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf” Smudge Stick 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Solarize 23.5 - from the file “Solarize.8bf” SP Substance Suite NO VERSION - from the file “MaterialSuite.8li” Spatter 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Spherize 23.5 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf” Sponge 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Sprayed Strokes 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Stained Glass 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Stamp 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Standard Deviation 23.5 - from the file “statistics.8ba” Substance Filter NO VERSION - from the file “MaterialFilter.8bf” Sumi-e 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Summation 23.5 - from the file “statistics.8ba” Targa 23.5 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf” Texturizer 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Tiles 23.5 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf” Topaz DeNoise AI 18.0 - from the file “tltopazdenoiseaips_x64.8bf” Topaz Gigapixel AI Beta NO VERSION - from the file “GigapixelAIBetaAutomation.8li” Topaz Gigapixel AI NO VERSION - from the file “GigapixelAIAutomation.8li” Topaz Sharpen AI 18.0 - from the file “tltopazsharpenaips_x64.8bf” Torn Edges 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Twirl 23.5 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf” U3D 23.5 - from the file “U3D.8bi” Underpainting 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Vanishing Point 23.5 - from the file “VanishingPoint.8bf” Variance 23.5 - from the file “statistics.8ba” Water Paper 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Watercolor 23.5 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf” Wave 23.5 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf” WIA Support 23.5 - from the file “WIASupport.8li” Wind 23.5 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf” Wireless Bitmap 23.5 - from the file “WBMP.8bi” ZigZag 23.5 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf” Optional and third party plugins: NONE Duplicate and Disabled plugins: PortraitPro 3.1.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2022\Plug-ins\PortraitProPSFilter64.8bf” Plugins that failed to load: NONE Unified Extensibility Platform - Extensions: Home Screen (Loaded) 5.12.1.4 - from the file "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe/UXP/Extensions\com.adobe.ccx.start-5.12.1\" CDO: 1.125.1 CmdN: 1.13.2 CDP: 1.149.0 Projects: 1.4.5 Loaded at: 194 ms - launch time impact: 54 ms Content Credentials (Loaded) 0.31.6.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Loaded at: 11883 ms - launch time impact: 37 ms ccx-timeline (Prepared) 3.0.3.0 - from the file "Required Folder" CCX Commenting UXP Webview (Loaded) 23.6.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Loaded at: 11884 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms CCX Sharesheet UXP (Prepared) 23.12.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Photoshop Cloud Value Dialog (Loaded) 1.0.1.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Loaded at: 196 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms Share Panel (Loaded) 1.0.3.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Loaded at: 197 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms CC Libraries Panel (Prepared) 3.21.13.0 - from the file "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe/CEP/Extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_21_13\" CAPTURE: 2.0.41 STOCK: 4.0.2 Photoshop UXP Export-As (Prepared) 5.8.13.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Photoshop In App Messaging (Loaded) 2.7.5.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Loaded at: 11884 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms Photoshop Selection Feedback (Prepared) 0.5.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Plugins Panel (Prepared) 1.4.3.0 - from the file "Required Folder" IC popup message (Loaded) 1.0.0.0 Loaded at: 6137 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms Multilayer Protection (Loaded) 1.0.0.0 Loaded at: 6137 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms Discover Panel (Loaded) 2.9.0.29 - from the file "Required Folder" Loaded at: 11885 ms - launch time impact: 12 ms Neural Filters (Registered) 1.13.3.0 - from the file "Required Folder" Extensions: Libraries 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_21_13\index.html” com.adobe.stock.panel.licensing-embedded 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_21_13\extensions\stock-panel-licensing\index.html” com.adobe.capture.extension 2.0.41 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_21_13\extensions\capture\capture.html” Export As 4.8.15 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2022\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\index.html” Export As 4.8.15 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2022\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\index.html” com.adobe.cclibraries.manager 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_21_13\manager.html” Installed TWAIN devices: NONE ... 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Hi all, REALLY HOPING someone has answers for this.  It's an ongoing issue on my machine for both LR and PS.  They each leave behind a running process (seen in Task Mgr) when the apps quit.  This completely prevents the app from starting , again. Please help! Thanks. ... View more

Hi Jain, Sorry that it took a while to respond, but I have updated info. 1. For reasons outside the context of this thread, I ended up paving the box, reinstalling Win10Pro, along with all the CC apps of course.  I ensured I was installing the absolute most recent versions of PS and LR (installing via CC of course). 2. The moment PS and LR were installed (so everything was virginal fresh), I fired up each app and quit, one at a time; i.e. there was never an instance of both running simultaneously. 3. Residual processes for PS and LR were still running.  These prevented PS and LR from launching.  4. The only solution was to use task mgr to manually quit each process.   Sometimes after quitting, there would be 2 processes with the same name, not just one.  To reiterate, they each had to be killed before I could relaunch. This duplicate behavior is a very recently started behavior, perhaps with the last update, certainly wasn't present 4 or 5 months ago, but I'm not sure when it actually started. Hoping you can get answers on this.  It's a pain! Thanks, Jerry ... View more

Hi Barry, Thanks for joining in on the conversation.  I've shot flat art for many years, and have been aware of the inherent issues of getting the art normal (perpendicular) to the film plane.  I also measure each piece carefully so I know what my output/target dimensions need to be, and use Transform/Warp to get things square.  All that goes pretty quickly for me.  A bit tedious, but I have it down to a smooth workflow.  All previous assignments with flat art used a Nikon d850 or earlier DSLR. But - here's what triggered this thread.  I used the Z format of Nikon's 50mm micro/macro.  With all my F-mount micros, straight lines were straight lines, and long ago, learned to not use zooms. The new Z version of the 55 has distinctive pincushion distortion, which was a complete and unwanted surprise.  Because of short working distance and larger pieces, I couldn't use my 105mm which I know is distortion-free. So all of this discussion was that I wanted get rid of the pincushion distortion programmatically, and am surprised that PS is 6+ years slow to the party.  In my current installation of PS CC 2022, neither the body (Z9) nor the 55 micro are in the dropdown lists.  The most current body is the D5, no Z bodies at all. Thanks again...   ... View more

That may be, but shouldn't there be an updated set of lists from Adobe?  The bodies listed are ancient by comparison. ... View more

Hi Ken. I just installed the 14.4 version of ACR.  Didn't fix the issue, there are no Z models listed, in fact there are only a few bodies shown: D3 D300s D3x D4 D7000 D5 For lenses, I selected the 50mm f2.8 (hoping that this corresponds to the macro) and the profile that showed up was for a Sigma macro. Your thoughts? ... View more

Hmmm.  I need to try to figure out how to install the ACR plugin.  I saw the link in your earlier post, but didn't see a link to d/l this.  The download button I clicked took me to a page for downloading PS, and other Adobe applications.  Maybe I just missed this... On a completely separate thread (and not wanting to hijack my own thread here), I posted what appears to be a bug for PS CC 22:  When I quit PS, there's a background app that continues to keep running.  As long as it's there, I cannot relaunch PS.  I have to use task mgr (Windows) to force-quit it.  Unfortunately there's a typo in the headline that says "quite" instead of "quit", and I discoverd this after my editing window closed.  Hoping you or one of your peers can take a look please... Thanks for your help! Jerry ... View more

Hi Kevin, thanks for sharing this.  I didn't realize that ACR was an update-able component. However I'm trying to correct TIFs that were generated via Nikon NXStudio as that's my default app of choice. The portion of PS that I was hoping to utilize is FILTER/lens correction.  In that set of dropdowns, the list of camera bodies and lenses are significantly out of date. And perhaps I missing some steps here (all too likely) - is there a way to correct barrel or pincushion manually withing ACR, with pre-existing TIFs rather than via importing NEFs and inheriting lens distortion corrections automatically (if that's how it works)? If I'm really out in the weeds on the process, I'd love to understand how the steps necessary to straigten out the TIFs applying camera make/model/lens info that's current. Many thanks! ... View more

Hi DraegerArt, Exactly.  No diagnostic tools made available to us.  And you reminded me - my machine is relatively decent, a 2 year old Alienware box with 64 gig, all SSDs.  Decent enough in my case that the issue can be called due to a limited slow box. ... View more

Conversations with MS were short and pointless, since all other apps on my box worked perfectly, thus enabling MS to launch the finger-pointing.  To reiterate from others, each company points fingers, we fall through the gap, and watch our production time go kablooey when a reboot is needed and workflow is blipped out.   I repeatedly asked for trapping tools from Adobe, something that could at least produce some kind of debugging info/crash info... something revelatory!  And standard response was "we don't got us one of those."   Since I was a voice of "one", no leverage was available and rinse, spit, and repeat..   ... View more

Brian - you nailed it.  Completely. The first step in this is to get Adobe to acknowlege there's an issue.  The TS people were all people who's apparent goal is to convince the user that it's their fault/issue and filter out anyone who's not persistent enough.  Eventually when I was able to reach a tier 2 tech, there was a lot of time spent trying to show that it was my machine, it was my configuration, it was my <fill in the blank>.  I won't detail all the hours of time wasted circling this black hole of non-acknowlegement, but 8+ hours at least, wasted with no tangible solutions.  Plus cleaning up the mess that the entry level tech support people created (one of whom DELETED come critical files I had on my desktop, even when I screamed STOP STOP STOP!!!!!).  Arrogance combined with incompetency = bad [removed by moderator] all around! Brian - more to your point, we shouldn't have to spend our billable hours trying to find solutions for something that's gone on for a very long time.  The problems were present in PS 2021, and have continued on as a very unwelcome time-sucking shadow. I'm always a little nervous about quoting delivery times and dates now, given this ongoing issue... As I said again, in my case, the issue gets exposed and amplified if I happen to run Chrome.  That seems to make the PS environment quite unstable. Thanks again! ... View more

FWIW, I don't dare have Chrome open while trying (... TRYING ...) to run PS 2022.  In fact, if my Windows session had Chrome running at anytime before launching PS, about half the time PS won't open, or if it does, won't open any files I want to edit. The moment Chrome's been running, I have been forced too many times to just effn reboot the computer, and then try to remember not to launch Chrome.  Whatever it's doing, if feels like there's been a 7 coil steamer kinking the works. I haven't tried to test this with other browsers, nor have I monitored the number of instances of Webview 2 that are running. I'm about ready to pave the box, and reinstall the OS, but am extremely apprehensive that that won't solve anything. Has Adobe responded to this thread at all?  I have yet to see any posts, and my attempts to resolve this with their TS were a vast irritating maze of dark, sucky little passages all alike; a huge waste of time. Thanks for all your comments and insights thus far.   ... View more

And then what, please?  I hope you're not suggesting I start working in that new user profile, as that would also require me installing the rest of my various tools and apps that constitute my editing environment... ... View more