BKBK wrote: I think Jason read too much into the word betrayal. Don't put the onus on the reader. If you don't mean "betrayal", don't write "betrayal".  You spoke about Array notation in a very negative way that made no sense to me (still doesn't). Saying that someone "read too much into" somethign is a cop out for you not writing it correctly in the first place. Jason ... View more

>> Isn't true multidimensionality. It only mimics it. As is the case with many languages. There is nothing wrong with emulating a multi-dimensional array using vectors, or arrays in arrays as the case may be, it is quite common. But you still have not addressed my question. You implied there was somethign different about using Array literal notation vs ArrayNew() that somehow betrayed what arrays truly are, but you keep dodging that part of the quesitons. If you would just either be so kind as to explain the statement I have quoted twice or just tell me, "oops, I used the wrong wording", I would be content. Jason ... View more

You said "ColdFusion arrays defined in other ways, such as ["a","b"], betray what a ColdFusion array really is at heart, a Java vector." How does using Array literal notation betray what a ColdFusion array really is? It is still a vector. It can still be used to create a "multi-dimensional" array. And it does it in a much cleaner way and can go beyond the limit of 3 dimensions. <cfset testArray = [           [1,2],           [3,4] ] /> <cfset testArray2 = ArrayNew(2) /> <cfset testArray2[1][1] = 1 /> <cfset testArray2[1][2] = 2 /> <cfset testArray2[2][1] = 3 /> <cfset testArray2[2][2] = 4 /> <cfoutput> Class of testArray: #testArray.getClass().getname()#<br> Superclass of testArray: #testArray.getClass().getSuperClass().getname()# <br /> Class of testArray2: #testArray2.getClass().getname()#<br> Superclass of testArray2: #testArray2.getClass().getSuperClass().getname()# <cfdump var="#testArray#" label="testArray 1" /> <cfdump var="#testArray2#" label="testArray 2" /> </cfoutput> <cfset testArray3 = [           [                     [                               [                                         [                                                   []                                         ]                               ]                     ]           ] ] /> <cfdump var="#testArray3#" label="Super Multi-Dimensional Array" /> jason ... View more

BKBK wrote: ColdFusion arrays defined in other ways, such as ["a","b"], betray what a ColdFusion array really is at heart, a Java vector. JavaDocs: "The Vector class implements a growable array of objects. Like an array, it contains components that can be accessed using an integer index. However, the size of a Vector can grow or shrink as needed to accommodate adding and removing items after the Vector has been created." Hardly seems like a "betrayal" to me. How does ArrayNew() provide you with something more true to a Vector? Jason Ref: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/1.4.2/docs/api/java/util/Vector.html ... View more

>>My question is, How can I determine what took the other 39,875ms? The dump. cfdump is slow, especially when output complex types (structs, xml, queries).  Try running the page without the dump. You'll see it loads quickly. Don't try to benchmark your page with a dump in it. Jason ... View more

Actually, the other alternative I was refering to was to get a decent hosting provider. jason ... View more

Verison 10 is different from 9 because they run on different servlet containers. CF 10 uses Tomcat, CF 9 uses JRun, so things are in different places. \\ColdFusion10\jre\lib\security seems like the correct locaiton for the policy files to me. I actually gave you the wrong locations in my original post (sorry about that).  According to the installation instructions they belong in <java-home>\lib\security, which is looks like you've found. So something else is wrong. Here are some things to look at, in no particular order: 1. Are you using a JVM other than the Java 1.6 that comes with CF10? 2. Did you restart Tomcat after coping the files in? 3. Note that I keep saying FILES, did you copy BOTH of th .jar files from the JCE folder you unzipped into the security directory.  It should have prompted you to overwrite existing files. 4. Did you try unzipping the files and copying them in again, on the chance that they did not overwrite the originals? Sorry, I don't have CF10 installed to give this a try. But I have no reason to believe that it would not work in 10. It's all just JCA/JCE on the underlying JAVA, and I have heard no reports from anyone else that it doesn't work. Jason ... View more

Do you mean the end tag for the <?xml...> beginning?  If so, then know that the is no ending tag for <?xml...>. If you are getting malformed errors it is because something else in the XML is malformed. Jason ... View more

There, of course, is one other alternative.  Jason ... View more

Aegis Kleais wrote: Anyways, onRequestStart() I create 2 request-based instances off the APPLICATION instance components, namely: <cfset structInsert( REQUEST, 'error', APPLICATION.coms.error, true )> <cfset structInsert( REQUEST, 'template', APPLICATION.coms.template, true)> No, you aren't creating 2 request-based instances off the APPLICATION scope. You are adding two references to the object in the application scope. The objects that are shared by all users. Your users are not gettign their own instance of the objects per request, they are all sharing the same objects. structInsert() does nto make a copy of an object, it creates a new reference to the object. If you want each user to have their own instance of the objects on every request, then you need to createObject() on every request, probably in onRequestStart(). If however all you need is for each user to have access to these singletons, then you can access them directly from the APPLICATION scope, there is no need to make a reference in the request scope. What you need depends on what those objects are actually doing. Jason ... View more

>> <cfinvoke component="www.app.coms.template" returnvariable="REQUEST.template"> Where is the method you are invoking?  If infact you meant: <cfinvoke component="www.app.coms.template" returnvariable="REQUEST.template" method="init"> Where init() returns an instance of the object, then yes, you could reuse that object, but it only works if you have an init method and the init method returns an instance of the object. Not all objects are guaranteed to have such a method. createObject() will create an instance of the object and return it regardless of the availability of an init() method. Jason ... View more

I will agree that cfinvoke is useful for invoking methods when the methods name is stored in a variable. I will not, however, concede that there is anything else that cfinvoke can do that createObject() cannot do more eloquently and with less code. Jason ... View more

Someone just asked me offline, because of this thread, why I thought cfinvoke was evil. I figure I would post my response here to answer for anyone else that may be interested. Two reasons 1. It is terribly, terribly, terrible verbose. Consider these two equivilent code blocks: <!--- non-cfinvoke version ---> <cfset myvar =  myObject.myCustomFunction(arg1=arg1, arg2=arg2)  /> <!--- cfinvoke version ---> <cfinvoke component="#myobject#" method="myCustomeFunction" returnvariable="myvar">      <cfinvokeargument name="arg1" value="#arg1#" />      <cfinvokeargument name="arg2" value="#arg2#" /> </cfinvoke> This extremely simple function takes almost 4x more characters to type as a cfinvoke than otherwise. Extrapolate that to larger functions and you get an ugly, ugly, hard-to-read mess. All that code just runs together in my eyes and it's hard ot tall where the arguments are, what the return variable will be etc. The non-cfinvoke version is so much cleaner and to anyone that has programmed using any other language, it is obvious what is going on. 2. cfinvoke cannot create persistent objects If you use cfinvoke to create an object, you cannot reuse that object. So in most cases, you're going to have to use createObject() anyway to create the object for cfinvoke to use which removes half of the once perceived benefit of cfinvoke. Hope that clears it up, cfinvoke is just ugly syntax. ColdFusion gets enough grief about being verbose and ugly. Let's not make it worse by using cfinvoke when there are better, easier, more useful and effective options. Jason ... View more

Of course, you are aright. I thought about that last night as I was trying to sleep. You beat me to the correction. Jason ... View more

You're welcome.  Glad it worked out. jason ... View more

Cool. Thank you for accepting my apology. Aegis Kleais wrote: ** UPDATE ** I might have another temporary issue that is skewing my results, so don't take what I just said to heart yet.  I was going through my code changing CFINVOKE's to <cfset path.to.functionName( arg='value' ) as suggested by Adam, and I noticed that when I request my hostname, I don't see it redirecting to the login page, like it should. As Jason suggested Jason ... View more

Listen, I'm sorry that I got so upset. I strive to help people and I got frustrated. I apologize for that. In all seriousness, I suggested several times that you try adding output="true" to your function and I can see no where in this thread where you actually said you tried that. I see where you tell me that it is set to false, but I don't see where you tell me that you tried my suggestion. That is frustrating.  I tried helping you and it just seemed that you were repeatedly ignoring my advice. I understand that you don't just want an answer and that you want to learn. I respect that. But couldn't you try what I suggested, report back and ask questions about it?  I'm more than happy to answer questions. But when I feel like my advice is being completely ignored, I tend to get a little irritated. I suspect that I am not alone in that feeling. Jason ... View more

And where did you tell me that you added output="true" to your function? And where did you tell me that that worked and that your problem was solved? I missed it amongst all the other learning. Jason ... View more

So did you add output="true" to writeOutputToBuffer() or not?  How about you try what people suggest, and then if it works you ask why?  I'm glad that you think that this is a great way for you to learn, but you have to understand that when you don't even try what is suggested then you only serve to frustrate those who are trying to help you. To my knowledge you still have not tried the 2 second fix that I suggested. I'm done trying to help you. Stepping all the way back, Jason ... View more

Aegis Kleais wrote: But even as such, wrapping my code in <CFOUTPUT> should have still output it to the buffer right? No, that's not right.  Why don't you try it.  You could have typed output="true" a thousand times since I suggested it, instead you keep arguing back and forth. Try it. Aegis Kleais wrote: I've been testing it and it seems if I CFABORT in the writeOutputToBuffer() after CFOUTPUT-ing it, it shows up!..... What the funk 'n wagnalls is going on here? <cfabort> flushes the output buffer (or some techno jargon like that) and so it does nto matter if output="true".  No matter where you are (cfsilent, etc) if you do a dump + abort it will always show up. Jason ... View more

cfinvoke is an evil beast that serves a dark master. It is of occasional use, but in 99 out of 96 cases, it is ugly, ugly, and ugly. You know you can name variables the other way too, right? writeOutputToBuffer( arg1=arg1, arg1=arg2, arg1=arg3 ) jason ... View more

Show us more code. What does this "template component" look like?  How does it get populated with the "rawCode". How are you invoking the Component?  Jason ... View more

Oh, and your IV is too long. Shorten it by 16 charatcers. It should only be 128-bit, not 192-bit. Jason ... View more

Remove the trailing slashes. Alias /assets "//nas-3/temporary/assets" jason ... View more

Did you click Add? Jason ... View more

If you are doing this for security then "or pass it along in the URL" is terrible advice, please don't follow it. Sorry WolfShade. Create the key onSessionStart() and store it in the session scope, then you can reuse it throughout the site as needed. Jason ... View more

Sorry, but that doesn't clarify. Jason ... View more

Of course you can log into both. When you log into ONE browser window you log into both. You create a single set of cookies that BOTH browser WINDOWS use. When you delete the cookies in one window, it deletes them across the board. You cannot do what you describe with ANY version of CF. You say you were able to do it with CF9. You are wrong. Internet Explorer uses a central cookie repository provided by the operating system. It is impossible to maintain two sessions in to different IE windows on the same web application regardless of the server-side platform (CF9, CF10, .NET, PHP, whatever). Whatever you were experiencing in CF9, it is NOT what you are describing. Perhaps you were misunderstanding what was happening and you thought you saw the behavior you describe. Feel free to post a video of you doing what you describe using CF9, but until you do, I am going to assume that this is a fundemental misunderstanding of how browsers and the statelessness of HTTP work and I will mentally close this thread. Jason ... View more