What part of it does not work? If you watch the control from an observer, are notifications missing? Or is it visual feedback - your code not considering whatever flag is used to differentiate the state? Did you set a breakpoint in the Draw, is it reached? Does it consider  IID_ITRISTATECONTROLDATA? ... View more

InDesign differentiates between OTF-CFF and OTF-TT . You likely have a mixture.   There are some incomplete attempts where InDesign finds the other font when the family names match. E.g. the pink indicator is more strict than the composer, so you still see the intended output. There can also be differences to the worse when you use the document fonts feature.   Reinstall a consistent set of fonts, and follow the typical instructions to purge font caches.   ... View more

Can you tell more about the font? Is this repeatable after IDML roundtrip, or maybe with a snippet that you could share? Woud either "Find/Change" or "Find/Replace Font" be an option?   ... View more

Thanks for the example document.   On a sidenote: You were originally using STIX Two Text (OTF), while my Mac 13.7.5 has STIX Two Text (OTF). The difference is the former is OTF CFF, while the latter is OTF TT, and a variable font at that.   Back to the substituted glyph: InDesign preserves composed text to avoid reflow even across versions. This "wax" (internal name) is not accessible by scripting, but the Symbol font is showing there. Was the U+2265 available in the original OTF-CFF? I haven't checked but I doubt, after looking at the original wax from the 2020 composer.   Using a plug-in with an own, very simple composer that exercises the supported OpenType features, I can also clearly see the missing glyph. Another todo item if I ever get back to that project – figure out how InDesign decides to use Symbol, and show it the same way as with the faux Superscript.     So what would you do if you could detect such substitutions, deep within the bits and bytes of the document? Turn it into another pink overlay, or a preflight rule? Is this too esoteric, or a frequent case just missed because nobody is looking for it?   ... View more

Maybe you have assigned that shortcut to a style …   ... View more

Looking back at your sample, the #sampleDialog>div gets close to the #wrapper, but it also attempts to set up a flex element. Separate that flex into a nested element. E.g. the flex could be asking its parent for dimensions, and taking generous defaults as there are none. Pure speculation, most of my css knowledge dates back to another century.   Don't skip over the hint on UI scalings. I found the hard way that specified sizes inside can vastly differ from the outside ({size:…}) and anything in between might not factor that in accordingly. ... View more

The stylesheet for spectrum should be included and working by default.   First thing I'm missing is a class=wrapper, that is frequently used in examples to specify dimensions via css. Don't limit your search to InDesign, for more examples include Photoshopand and XD. That should yield a dlg.showModal()   Also watch out for other examples that pass an object to show(). Useful properties include title: "Yadda", resize: "both", size : {width: … height: … }, minSize, maxSize.   Don't forget to test with various UI scalings … ... View more

There are only so many calls in that interface. I'd try SetProxyReferenceAngle … ... View more

Note to myself: limit the activity report to InDesign. 😉 It is included at the bottom anyway, and matches an "Apple Problem Report" of above.  I agree with Eugene, this is network trouble, (some CEP panel?) opening a HTTP connection. I'd guess Typekit / Adobe Fonts service, in response to login rather than the login itself.   Try a different network. If you're in a corporate environment, point your system admins to this list of "endpoints" for their firewall: https://helpx.adobe.com/enterprise/kb/network-endpoints.html ... View more

1) Disable font managers. Performance problems and crashes often are caused by font managers calling faulty macOS code that InDesign itself knows to avoid. 2) If you have no font manager, and have used migration assistant from a machine that had a font manager, track down and weed out the font manager migrated by migration assistant. 3) Otherwise follow the linked thread for looking at the details of the stuck program. If you see a font manager mentioned in the report, continue at 1) 4) If there is no font manager, upload/attach an Activity Viewer report as text file. Do not copy-paste the file, use the forum upload.   ... View more

Don't underestimate the CCDev forum - UDT is not really specific to InDesign, neither are many other UXP issues. Some issues get more attention, some fewer, or require more noise. Also the team handling that area has quite much on their plate and just had their big yearly event …   Speaking of that event, there are also the monthly Office Hours, you should find them thru the same link.   ... View more

Are you aware of today's Developers Live event? Beyond that, UDT also has a dedicated category in the separate Creative Cloud Developer forum, which also has an InDesign specific category (mostly covering InDesign UXP).   ... View more

Try this: var tablesToProcess = app.selection[0].paragraphs.everyItem().tables.everyItem().getElements();   Maybe the following is sufficient or even intended, it would excluded tables from the unselected parts of the first and last paragraphs. A single paragraph can hold multiple tables and text between them.   var tablesToProcess = app.selection[0].tables.everyItem().getElements();   Not sure how the constructor name worked for you, I thought we're supposed to use the .constructorName property in UXP.   You may also have a look at the myTable.toSpecifier() string to see where that table object is really pointing. Assuming UXP does support toSpecifier(), if not so, use app.doScript() and let ExtendScript do the work.   @John D Herzog that's an array variable, no collection, thus no item() function. ... View more

That's a dialog via InDesign's script DOM. https://developer.adobe.com/indesign/dom/api/d/Dialog/ https://developer.adobe.com/indesign/dom/api/d/DialogColumn/ https://developer.adobe.com/indesign/dom/api/b/BorderPanel/   ExtendScript has separate dialogs via ScriptUI.   UXP script itself (those single .idjs files) has not, but UXP's scripted plugins again reinvented the dialog. You'd have to work thru manifests, html-ish markup and css. ... View more

You could run the enclosed script, or take it as starting point.   To get a list of voices, I used the terminal command "say -v \?" Unfortunately some of the entries caused errors, only Apple knows why. Eventually replace the voices with others that work better for you. When done, remove the top 4 say … tests.   Copy the script into AppleScript editor. Compile and run to verify the syntax / ensure there are no copy-paste errors. Save as "Speak.applescript" Put the file either into the script folder that you reach via menu Utilities >> Scripts panel >> Show in Finder. Alternatively I used the application scripts menu. This menu is optional, you first have to enable it in the AppleScript editor preferences. That should give you a script icon in the right part of the menu bar. Switch to InDesign. The menu below that icon has entries to open the application specific folder, thus first switch to InDesign. Copy your script file into that folder.   I went thru some hoops for selected text frames and text columns (encountered with selections in the text editor window). Simple text selection and table cell selections work better.   property nVoice : "Grandpa (Englisch (UK))" property tVoice : "Eddy (Englisch (UK))" property iVoice : "Reed (Englisch (UK))" -- error voice, system language is German here property eVoice : "Grandpa (Deutsch (Deutschland))" say "Notice" using nVoice say "Text" using tVoice say "Information" using iVoice say "Ein ganz böser Fehler" using eVoice tell application id "com.adobe.indesign" try if number of items of selection is 0 then say "Empty selection" using nVoice return end if repeat with sel in selection log class of sel log (exists text 1 of sel) if class of sel is text frame then set t to paragraph 1 of sel say "text frame starting with" using nVoice say t using tVoice else if class of sel is text column then set t to paragraph 1 of sel say "text column starting with" using nVoice say t using tVoice else if exists text of sel then repeat with tx in every text of sel set t to contents of tx say t using tVoice end repeat else set c to (class of sel) set t to "A " & c say t using nVoice try if exists image 1 of sel then set fp to file path of item link of image 1 of sel tell application "System Events" set fn to name of disk item fp end tell say ("with image file " & fn) using iVoice end if end try end if end repeat on error err number errno if err = "" then say "Error " & errno else say err using eVoice end if end try end tell   ... View more

You won't find text in text frames, if it is not in them. The term is "overset". There are plenty other objects to ask. While Peter suggested to step up to the parentStory e.g. if you're coming from a selection, you can also target the entire document, or anything in between. Either way also finds text where the opening curly brackets are in one frame, and and the closing brackets are in a later frame of the same story. I'd use document.findGrep, or story.findGrep as Peter suggested and iterate document.stories rather than frames. If you have a single story with 100 frames, better avoid searching the entire story for each frame … For iterating it is better to store all items in an intermediate array outside the loop, by using the getElements() function. var stories = doc.stories.everyItem().getElements() Also there are several ways to iterate the findGrep results from back to front regarding their text order, otherwise after changes to preceding text the following findings will point to other text as they work with numeric offset.   E.g. findGrep has an optional parameter "reverseOrder".     ... View more

As I wrote, disabling background export was only suggested to make the report more readable (LOL), not to solve the issue.   Anyway, that Sample text rather than image is even better than the screenshots in the other message thread.   We're seeing 2058 samples (snapshots of execution) across many individual "threads" (the leftmost levels) – basically CPU cores running different programs in parallel. If the number decreases following the indents, there is some activity eating time. 1996 Application run is the main loop pretending to do nothing, follow the line down to the 60 samples to see one small activity – see 2) below. That big bunch of low numbers in between is about timers (rather than threads) and their activity counted into the "do nothing".   1. In the watched time slice, InDesign top/main thread "Thread_11656849" is mostly waiting for a message from another thread (the 1958 out of 2058 samples descending to mac_msg2_trap That's your idle UI, remember your front application is Activity Monitor. Also your export would take place here with backgrounding disabled, but anyway.   2a. There is a font manager involved: Below the 60 mentioned above, SuitcaseIdleTask further down has 30 samples talking to another process, plus some more looking at preferences. 2b. Extensis SuitcasePanel (ExtensisFontManagementID2025 from line 80) is also seeing some activity, mentioned above as "timer". 2c. Another idletask starting on line 275. Links check file timestamps for changes (the "stat" and "fstat")?   3. Ignore all threads that only show the max. 2058 samples, they are stuck 4. At least something is going on in BridgeTalk - a script talking to another app in the creative suite Could this be related to one of multiple CEP panels further down? 5. Thread_11658153: TypeQuest in Character Panel, preparing to update some font related UI? 6. Section "Total number …" straight below all those thread related libtypekitC4Release stands out, again font related. 7. AdobePDFL in the same section expected for the pending export.   So most of it is waiting for others to do their work, those CEP and Bridgetalk indicate external communications (opaque to us) and of course waiting for something external would block without showing more details, as for sure also the Suitecase task waiting for its related process. Maybe that Suitecase panel is using CEP+Bridgetalk?   Let's cut it short, I already mentioned the other forum thread about Extensis tweaks. That is, if you ever get into the same troubles after your successful reinstall. Cheers   @leo.r not sure what you expect from the memory tab? ... View more

@Eugene Tyson The convertToTable action also has a matching method in the Text types. Happy programming …   ... View more

Shot in the dark: Disable your font manager and remove all Type1 fonts.   ... View more

I understand the problem.   You are using generic software and a generic font and expect them to work in the special production scenario involving vintage signage vinyl cutters. Enclosed a scan from the "Adobe Type 1 Font Format" dating back to 1990, that explains the very problem.   So, once upon a time fonts were required to avoid this problem. Of course we all know by now that Type1 is not supported any more, otherwise it would b a quick way to choose a font exactly for your purposes.   A few decades later (2014): https://www.thomasphinney.com/2014/01/overlapping-paths-in-type-design/ > Overlapping paths are sort of okay in TrueType fonts—the rendering engines will deal with them better. But they will still produce bad results if a user does something like apply an outline or stroke to the text.   Thomas exactly describes your problem, and steps by the font designer of those days to avoid them. If they care, they are not required to any more. So you have to look for fonts that are specifically fit for your purpose. Maybe your font vendor can follow Thomas' steps, especially as you now tell us it is not a variable font. Maybe they charge an extra price, maybe they won't do it at all.   Now continue to variable fonts (2019). https://typedrawers.com/discussion/3216/overlap-in-variable-fonts The images from John Hudson demonstrate why variable fonts require overlaps to work. All experts around there agree that it is ok to have them. Quote directly below that image > I trust a system that knows about variable fonts and can instantiate them for download to a printer to remove the overlaps more than I trust the printer to correctly interpret overlaps. This part of the discussion was about printer drivers at OS level, not InDesign's application level.   I do not know anything about their special business, but your production company seems to be living in the past of 20 years ago where fonts were crafted the way described with the Type1 spec. They now gently push their problem to you by asking for outlines. They also should have included a hint in these requirements that not every font is fit for their purpose.   Late addition: Looking around specifically for "Inter" – it is an open source font, so no vender, but you can try the changes yourself. https://github.com/rsms/inter/tree/master/src They even mention glyphsapp in that page . Looking further at https://handbook.glyphsapp.com/filters/remove-overlap/ there is a tool for your purpose … or you sort it out with Illustrator.   ... View more

Consider the other parties involved.   Talk to the font vendor / foundry, show them how the font does not work for your special use case. Maybe they can produce a better single instance (rather than variable) font, or even better fix the variable font.   Also ask the sign cutters for a list of fonts that work with their special requirements.   ... View more

Please also look at the recent discussion which suggested Extensis tweaks.   ... View more

I hope downgrading solved the immediate issue. If 20.3 won't do, try something earlier such as 20.2 . Documents are supposed to be compatible as long you stick to version 20.x.   If the problem persists, I'd first try whether disabling background export still works. This is not expected to solve the problem, just a preparation for the next step. You can undo it later on.   Use the Activity Monitor to see what's going on. Read that discussion, follow the steps, post a few matching screen shots. Over there it turned out font related. You also mentioned a font manager. Could be a similar cause, could be anything else. We can only tell from looking at the activity report.   ... View more

The original post mentions "the cloud" in a way that I understood as "the Creative Cloud" rather than some generic cloud-based file sharing. CC is also mentioned in the response to Robert. It then gets to the questions how to upload the entire project while maintaining links (the shortcuts mis-translation) - that would include the book to book contents.   Since everybody is eager to refer to file sharing clouds, the original question and its implication are missed. Is the Adobe Creative Cloud fit for the purpose? How should they transition the entire book from local work?   I only tried the Cloud side of CC for sharing a single document and from that experience would say let it mature for a few more years. On the other hand I'm not representative for that kind of work. Anyway if you go down that road, better also plan an exit path.   Peter's project sounds like a one-off. At a larger scale I'd also suggest to look at former editorial systems that nowadays have moved on to "corporate publishing" and "cross media". There are plenty, especially here in Germany. Google keywords such as Redaktionssystem Verlagssystem to get close (of course also include InDesign).   Does any of them cater to small teams without dedicated administration, without all that sophisticated management overhead needed by full time publishers? I don't know. Reminds me of that recent thread: https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/magazine-planning-in-adobe/m-p/15225146 ... View more

Have you ruled out IPv4 versus IPv6 troubles, or firewall hickup?   in https://helpx.adobe.com/de/enterprise/kb/network-endpoints.html   lcs-cops.adobe.io is listed as license related p13n.adobe.io would be something about Sync crs.cr.adobe.com is only listed in the attached endpoints document, among plenty "fonts" and "typekit" entries. ... View more

I also wonder whether change tracking belongs into TAs at all - if your plug-in is about that. But that would definitely leave the scope of a forum post. ... View more

Quick reminder - make sure to use the appropriate responder to add the default value to the text defaults, e.g. for opened documents. Also don't forget the ignore tags resource in case the documents should open without your plug-in. Add a test case for that, it is difficult to repair on existing docs  … ... View more

These should do for paragraph attributes: Object { kTextObjectScriptElement } Object { kStoryObjectScriptElement } Object { kParagraphStyleObjectScriptElement } Object { kTextDefaultObjectScriptElement }   Otherwise add Object { kCharacterStyleObjectScriptElement }   As you don't mention it, make sure to use kCoreScriptManagerBoss in the contexts.   ... View more