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‎Sep 05, 2023
12:30 PM
1 Upvote
Yes, it needs this badly. RGB values are far less useful as they are not intuitive to interpret. Knowing that a blue sky is typically around hue=210 and skin is around hue=20 makes it helpful to check color samples to see if the white balance is close. I have wanted this in ACR for years. It seems like such an obvious thing that is missing.
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‎Mar 24, 2023
01:50 PM
@Mohit Goyal @CShubert Just wanted to report this is now fixed in both 24.3.0 and also in the last 24.4.0 beta release, version 24.4.0 20230321.m.2110 025d911 x64 I also had a few of my plugin users test my plugins in both 24.3 and the 24.4 beta and it worked for them too. So thank you for the speedy fix on this 🙂
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‎Mar 22, 2023
02:38 AM
@Ged_Traynor Yes, it is fixed in 24.3.0. However, it is not yet fixed in the 24.4.0 beta release.
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‎Mar 22, 2023
01:21 AM
@nicknz I suggest posting a new topic instead of replying to this completely unrelated topic. This thread is about a Liquify tool issue. It is probably best to keep this discussion pertaining to the on the originally posted topic. It makes things confusing when unrelated issues are thrown into a thread.
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‎Mar 22, 2023
12:04 AM
@Mohit Goyal Thanks for addressing this issue. I tested both 24.3.0 and the pre-release beta 24.4.0. It is fixed in 24.3.0. However, the issue is still there in the 24.4.0 beta. I'm assuming this is going to also be fixed in the next 24.4.0 beta so that it doesn't come back when 24.4.0 is released to the public, correct? Here is the beta release I am using (pre-release version). Adobe Photoshop Version: 24.4.0 20230314.m.2102 65e771c x64
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‎Mar 14, 2023
11:17 AM
@CShubert Thanks for the follow up. I'll test and let you know on the next release. Also, after it is fixed, is there a way to make sure the fix doesn't get removed in a future release? This fix has been applied twice before but then the exact same issue comes back. So I'm not sure if there is a patch being applied and then the patch doesn't get carried over to a later PS release or something along those lines. It could be a different bug.... However, when the issue comes back, the symptoms are identical to the previous occurrences so it seems like the exact same bug. So I'm hoping there is a way to prevent re-occurrence in the future as well.
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‎Mar 10, 2023
01:16 PM
6 Upvotes
@CShubert Thanks for the follow up. If any of the Adobe engineers have any questions or want me to show them any specifics from my troubleshooting then let me know. I can let Adobe log into my test computers if needed and go over anything with the engineers. This bug is my company's #1 priority right now as it is affecting all of our Windows users. So I can set aside any time and resources necessary to help with it. Thanks 🙂
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‎Mar 10, 2023
11:30 AM
6 Upvotes
Thank you Cory 🙂
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‎Mar 10, 2023
09:27 AM
33 Upvotes
@J453 I am tagging you since you were involved the last 2 times I reported this same bug in the past... and you were very helpful those times 🙂 So I'm hoping that you can direct this bug to the proper people. This issue is a pretty major issue for me (and my plugin users) as it is affecting all of my plugin users who are running Windows (I'm a plugin developer). This issue is with Photoshop itself, but is affecting my plugins. Note: I also reported this bug in the pre-release group since it is happening on the pre-release beta 24.3.0 version as well. However, since this is happening on the current public release, I am posting here too. Since there are multiple places to post bugs, I’m not sure which is the proper place to post to ensure it is seen by the right person at Adobe. Therefore, I’m just posting in both locations.
I have reported this twice in the past and Adobe has fixed it each time. Now it is back again for a 3rd time. This bug is inside of the Liquify filter itself and can be repeated in Photoshop itself without using any of my plugins. However, since I have 3 plugins that use the Liquify tool in high volume batch processing, those plugins are also affected by this issue. My plugins are used by hundreds of professional photographers in the high volume school and sports photography industry. Most of the users are batch processing 1000s of images at a time. So all of my plugin users who run on Windows are affected by this. This problem has popped back up in 24.2.0 (also in 24.3.0) but was fixed twice in the past by Adobe. See Bug ID – PS-80451. This was the old bug ID when when it was last reported and fixed in CC 2022. Hopefully that will give insight for what needs done to fix this again. It was also reported in CC 2020 and fixed in 21.1.1. So the re-occurrence in 24.2.0 is the 3rd time this has reappeared. Also, I created new Bug ID – PS-105403 which is the bug ID for this same bug in the pre-release group as this is happening on both the production 24.2.0/1 releases and the 24.3.0 beta release.
Issue: The Liquify tool stops working after 450-500 uses within a given Photoshop session.
Photoshop versions: 24.2.0, 24.2.1, and 24.3.0 (latest pre-release 20230228.m.2087) OS: Window only, both 10 and 11. Mac is unaffected
Steps to reproduce: 1. Create an action that runs Liquify. I use Face Aware Liquify. 2. Batch process the action for a folder of 525 images using Image Processor script. Liquify will stop working between 450-500 images. I have tested many Windows machines and it has happened on every system I have tested, every time. None of the systems could repeat the bug in 24.1.1.
See the video from this link where I show how to reproduce it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShJZq54RzPQ
Expected result: Liquify should not stop working
Actual result: Liquify stops working after 450-500 uses within a photoshop session on Windows. It is very repeatable See the video from the link above
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‎Mar 07, 2023
02:10 PM
@Mohit Goyal @Daniel Presedo @J453 This issue is back again in the latets Photoshop 24.2.0 release on Window 10 and Windows 11. Same as last time, Mac is not affected. Since 24.2.0 was released, I've had a bunch of Windows users reporting crashing. I've been able to repeat this on my windows machines and it is very repeatable. In my testing, to remove my plugins from the equation, I jsut wrote a 1 step Photoshop action to apply a face aware liquify to the image. Then, batch processing the action through the Photoshop Image Processor script, it wil produce the crash. I've tested this on 24.2.0 and the 24.3.0 beta with the same results. The only difference is that before it was giving the assertion failed error message. This time it just gives the crash report dialog. Other than that, everythig else is the same and it seems to happen between 400-500 images ran through liquify within a single Photoshop session. This doesn't happen on 24.1.1. It started on 24.2.0. I;ve verified on my computer as well quite a few of my plugin users' computers that it just started (again) on 24.2.0. I am a plugin developer and 3 of my plugins utilize Face Aware Liquify as part of a sequence to determine face position. The plugins then use the face position to auto compose the images. These 3 plugins are used heavily in volume batch processing my hundreds of professional photographers in the school and youth sports photography industry. So this is a major issue disprupting their volume workflow. It's not a minor issue for them. This is the 3rd gtime this issue has popped up. i reported this in CC 2021 and then it was fixed. It came back in CC 2022 and was fixed again. Now it has popped back up in CC 2023. Can you please take a look at this and see about getting it fixed again? please respond and let me know because this is a major issue for my customers as well as myself because my plugins are dead in the water for Windows right now because of this issue. So this is having a major affect on my business too. Thanks
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‎Feb 04, 2022
01:24 PM
@Daniel Presedo I just downloaded and tested the latets beta pre-release version and this appears to be fixed. So thank you for that 🙂 Do you have an approximation for when the fix will be in the public release?
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‎Jan 20, 2022
12:09 PM
@Daniel Presedo Awesome, thank you 🙂 I am heading out of town on Sunday and won't be back until 2/2. I will only have a Macbook M1 with me. So I can't test on my own Windows machine until I get back on 2/2 (unless it is in a pre-release tomorrow). However, I will be with a bunch of Photographers at a trade show who are running Windows Photoshop. If it is in the regular beta release then I'm sure I can some of them to install the beta release and test. I'm not sure if bugs fixes are the same for the regular beta vs the pre-release beta. If not, then I will test first thing when I get back in town on 2/2 unless it is releases in tomorrows pre-release.
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‎Jan 19, 2022
09:08 AM
@Daniel Presedo Thank you very much for the update. I will test it when it is ready. Also, will the fix be in the public beta release too? If so, then I can have some of my plugin users test it as well when it is released.
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‎Jan 18, 2022
02:54 PM
@Daniel Presedo Were you able to reproduce this in house? There have been a lot of users of my automation plugins reporting this to me. So I know it is pretty widespread. My automation plugins use the liquify tool during the batch processing. The issue itself isn't related to the plugins. I can recreate it without the plugins. However, the plugins are affected by it because they are using the liquify tool. Any update would be appreciated. I am having to answer about this right now to a lot of plugin users who are reporting it. I just want to know what to tell them. Thanks 🙂
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‎Jan 17, 2022
06:32 PM
@PlainfieldJim For now, you can roll back to 23.0.2 and the issue will not occur. I realize that this is a band-aid temp work around. Howevr, 23.0.2 should work fine.
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‎Jan 14, 2022
05:12 PM
Jeff Tranberry, I jsut sent you a private message with more details and my personal contact information. if there is anythig at all that I can do to help test this then please let me knwo. Feel free to give my contact info to anyone at Adobe who is working on this issue to. Thanks 🙂
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‎Jan 14, 2022
04:53 PM
1 Upvote
Jeff, Photoshop freezes and does not allow a crash report to be submitted. Here is a video I kust made. I will send you a message with more info as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XBSZ8r8THo
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‎Jan 13, 2022
12:07 PM
3 Upvotes
Hi Daniel, Thanks for looking into this. Let me know if there is anything at all you need from me to help troubelshoot this. This is by far the most important issue for my company right now so I can do anything you need to help test this. Back in 2020 I made a video showing how to reproduce it with a linik in the post. However, I since remved the video on youtube. If you need me to make another video then let me know. However, I think it should be easy to reproduce in house anyway so it probably isn't needed. Also, please keep us posted with an update when you know more. There are a bunch of my plugin users who are affected by this. This is a pretty significant issue for them because most of my users routinely do high volume image batching and this affects 3 of my plugis for all batch operations and a 4th plugin in some circumstances. So this isssue has a very large impact to the users. Thanks
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‎Jan 13, 2022
04:51 AM
4 Upvotes
Correction, it worked fine from 22.1 (not 21.1) through 23.0.2, but is now broken again in 23.1.0.
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‎Jan 13, 2022
04:41 AM
7 Upvotes
Hi Jeff, This issue is back in Photoshop 23.1.0. The issue was fixed from 21.1 - 23.0.2 but is now back again in 23.1.0. It seems that whatever fix was implemented may have been rolled back to the prior state. The issue is exactly the same. It is Windows only. It seems to affect all Windows systems. The error still seems to occur between 475 and 500 image ran through Face Aware Liquify within a given Photoshop session. This is a critical issue for my company and my plugin users. I have 3 UXP plugins that use the face Aware Liquify tool in large volume batching. This issue is causing crashing for all of my plugin users who are running Windows with version 23.1.0. I again verified that the issue is not specific to the plugins though. I repeated the same test I did last time by batching in an action without running any plugins. I recorded a 1 step action to do a Face Aware Liquify. When the action is ran through the Photoshop Image Processor Script, it will give the same exact error after around 475-500 images. So this isolates the issue to the liquify tool itself. When the error occurs, it locks up Photoshop so there is no way to do a crash report. Photoshop has to be quit through Task Manager. Hopefully, someone will know how to fix this since it was already fixed once back in December, 2020. Can you please let me know that someone sees this post so I know it is being worked on? Again, this issue is super critical for my plugin users. Many of the users run large batches of image with more than 500 images per batch and for those people this is causing Photoshop to crash every time.
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‎Dec 08, 2020
12:28 PM
@JeffreyTranberry
Thanks. I just ran a batch of 1,200 images and verified that it is fixed 🙂
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‎Oct 23, 2020
03:21 PM
I am an HTML panel developer and all of my panels work fine with CC 2021 under the Extensions (legacy) menu. HTML panel extansions are still supported. They will eventually be phased out and replaced by UPX plugins panels, under the new Plugins menu, which is why the Extensions menu says "legacy". However, that has nothing to do with the issues you are seeing. Your panels may have compatibility issues with CC 2021..... but that has nothign to do with the menu being listed as "legacy".
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‎Oct 23, 2020
01:59 PM
I'm looking for all of the documents needed to learn how to create plugins with UXP. I'm a developer of commercial scripts and panels and have been doing that for 10 years now as a career. I want to start learning UXP so I can switch my programs over to UXP plugins. I really like the potential I see with UXP. The concepts of how it works is much better than CEP. However, trying to learn how to implement it, I'm stuck because I can't seem to find all of the documentation needed. There are quite a few UXP plugins already available in the browse plugins section for Photoshop. Judging by what those plugins can do, I'm wondering how the developers actually learned how to implement the features using UXP. Is there more documentation somewhere than what I'm not finding? So far, I've found these 3 documents from the links below. There is enough contained in the documents to get started create a UIs and maybe do some very simple tasks through the DOM. However, there isn't much information on the DOM beyond several basic Photoshop features. There is mention of "batchPlay" and a batchPlay logger. However, the link to the batchPlay logger gives a 404 error on github. So right now I can get to the point of having a UI with buttons and other inputs, along with event listens in JS. However, how to program what goes inside the event listeners is a "black box" to me at this point. There are UXP plugins docs I have found. Does anyone know of any other documents available? Also, is there another community somewhere dedicated to UPX development? Plugin APIs Photoshop JS API Getting Started with UXP for Photoshop
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‎Oct 21, 2020
04:23 PM
2 Upvotes
Thanks for the link. That is a helpful document that answers a lot of questions I was having 🙂 It does mention that JSX will be supported for a long time which is reassuring. Also, it has a link to an ExntendScript Batch Play logger that I guess converts JSX code into a useable format to UXP. However, the link gave a 404 error when I clicked on it. I will search to see if I can find the logger download.
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‎Oct 21, 2020
03:53 PM
Yeah, I just found that too. Not a whole lot in the document yet. I hope UXP scripting has more under the hood than what is in the document. At least it can play actions, I think. If so then I guess I'll start learning how to create a UI with buttons that play actions. That would be a good starting point to learn I guess.
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‎Oct 21, 2020
03:01 PM
I realize that I need to learn UXP. Do you know where the reference documents are? I did find the main UXP reference document but that seems to mainly go over how to make a UI. Is there a documents that goes over the new scripting DOM?
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‎Oct 21, 2020
09:32 AM
Do you have a link for where to sign up for the program? I just did a google search but I'm not finding it.
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‎Oct 21, 2020
09:18 AM
*Sympa Thanks for the feedback. I did a test and this is still occurring in the initial release of CC 2021. You did mention November though, not October. So is a fix planned for the 2nd release of CC 2201 in version 22.0.1?
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‎Oct 21, 2020
08:58 AM
So stand alone JSX scritps will be dead too, not just HTMl panels?
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‎Oct 21, 2020
08:48 AM
Are you meaning that JSX will go away only for using with HTML panels? Or going away altogether, even for stand alone scripts that don't get used with panels? I looked at the UPX documentation. I can't find any extensive programming guide for the new JS. There is the new getting started with UXP but it is nowhere near deep enough in the programming aspect for the JS that will replace JSX.
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