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Small niggles

Advocate ,
May 15, 2009 May 15, 2009

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As requested, a thread for annoying little things that we hope can be easily fixed - not the biggies like failing to go back to where you last read, being logged out mid-post, lack of NNTP etc - just niggly little things.

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Enthusiast , Jun 02, 2009 Jun 02, 2009
http://forums.adobe.com/message/2007641#2007641Sorry folks, but word has come down from above that abuse of the point system is counter-productive. There are management types that actually believe some users see points as an incentive to provide a quality answer, and that they wouldn't do so without the points, but that's not a widely held opinion among hosts. Nevertheless, I have to lock the thread, and warn you that at some point there will be official sanctions for those who post threads with...

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Advocate ,
May 15, 2009 May 15, 2009

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One stupid thing that annoys me:

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I get the mouse over on the gray box area that appears around the 'Forum Comment' (which usually indicates a click can be made). However you cannot actually click unless you put the mouse on the words "Forum Comments" and it becomes underlined.

Being as the site is pretty slow I've click the gray box and sat for a few seconds before realizing that the page isn't moving

Small and stupid, but yes annoying.

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LEGEND ,
May 16, 2009 May 16, 2009

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What's this then?  It's in thes thread:  http://forums.adobe.com/thread/419918?tstart=0

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Advocate ,
May 16, 2009 May 16, 2009

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Not seeing it in the thread.

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LEGEND ,
May 16, 2009 May 16, 2009

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If your scrolling finger's fit, it appears at post 29.

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Guide ,
May 16, 2009 May 16, 2009

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John Joslin wrote:

If your scrolling finger's fit, it appears at post 29.

Nope.  I'm not seeing it in post #29.

But that thread is an absolute mess.  At least two users posted kilometer-long crash reports.  The page is so darn long that it taxes any browser.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
May 16, 2009 May 16, 2009

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John Joslin wrote:

If your scrolling finger's fit, it appears at post 29.

I have seen the black hole in other long threads when scrolling fast or dragging the slider, sometimes much bigger. If you go a bit up and give it a rest, the black hole contracts, and even lets go of the fallen parts. Unlike the abyss.

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New Here ,
Jun 19, 2009 Jun 19, 2009

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I don't know what's that meam

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Mentor ,
Jun 19, 2009 Jun 19, 2009

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jannonces wrote:

I don't know what's that mean

What Vacation? I don't know either. I haven't had one in so long. The ones I vaguely remember was the first couple of days were nice but after that second day they were boring.

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Engaged ,
May 16, 2009 May 16, 2009

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Mmmm.... Giggles?

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Advocate ,
May 16, 2009 May 16, 2009

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Kath-H wrote on 2009-05-15 16:54:

As requested, a thread for annoying little things that we hope can be easily fixes - not the biggies like failing to go back to where you last read, being logged out mid-post, lack of NNTP etc - just niggly little things.

Email notification:

1. "This message was sent to: Jochem van Dieten" is some garbage text

that should go away.

2. "If you post by replying to this email, be sure to leave the

square-bracketed text at the end of the subject line as it is. This will

help ensure that your message is posted correctly." may have been valid

at some point, but isn't now.

3. "end" even more garbage that should go away.

4. The line of hyphens at to distinguish between content and signature.

We do have a recognized signature delimiter for that: "-- ". If the

system were to use that my email client would recognize the signature

and not include it in the response quote.

5. The system breaks relative paths in messages when messages are

quoted. (I.e. a link to http://forums.adobe.com/message/1965671 will be

reduced to /message/1965671 when quoted enough times.)

Email responses:

6. The removal of quoted text is unreliable. What is worse, it is

undocumented.

7. If I quote one level deep (lines starting with "> ", such as at the

top here) it is shown as a quote in the web interface. If I quote deeper

(lines starting with ">> ") the display in the web interface is messed up.

8. Attachments are only allowed on the original message in a thread.

9. Error messages from the Jive system are unhelpfull, whatever the

real problem is, you will always get an error the address doesn't exist.

Webservices interface:

10. It is impossible to look up a userID based on a username.

11. If I download a thread through the webservices, it isn't counted as

a view of that thread in the web interface.

12. There is no documentation for the HTML that is allowed in messages,

nor for the way it should be escaped.

13. The login API is broken and the workaround we have is needlessly

complicated because the Adobe site doesn't return valid XHTML that can

be parsed by Flex.

Web interface:

Don't know, I try not to use it.

Jochem

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Jochem van Dieten

http://jochem.vandieten.net/

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Engaged ,
May 16, 2009 May 16, 2009

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Adding to Jochem's litany about email notifications:

The email clients I'm familiar with will ignore 'Re: ' at the start of a subject line when sorting by subject. That way, a message

and any replies to it - even if their subject lines start with 'Re: Re: Re: ' - will be grouped together. This doesn't happen with

Jive email notifications because the 'Re: ' falls in the /middle/ of the subject line, /after/ the name of the forum. Consequence:

OPs end up at the top and bottom of a subject-sorted list of posts, with responses in the middle. I can think of two easy ways to

put this right:

(a) Put the forum name at the end of the subject line, not at the start;

(b) Drop the 'Re: ' from responses, thus leaving sorting to the time stamp.

Either of these options - quick and dirty fixes - would make it much easier to use email as an NNTP substitute until they get round

to inserting proper reference or In-Reply-To: headers.

--

Noel

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Advocate ,
May 16, 2009 May 16, 2009

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Huge text in topic titles and 'Sticky Topics'. Surely that's a quick fix?

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Advisor ,
May 16, 2009 May 16, 2009

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Yet another addition to the email system.

Email responses:

Subject header should not revert back to the original subject in email

replies.

Currently all email replies have the Subject reverted to the original

Subject regardless of whether the it was changed in the Web interface or

via the email client. This breaks a system that depends on subjects for

"grouping" as a substitution for threading.

--

Mark A. Boyd

Keep-On-Learnin' 🙂

[Edit]

This request has probably been addressed under "Ongoing issues being researched:" in the new FAQ entry, What are some updates as to what is happening in the new forums?

Also. Deleted graphic smiley in sig and replaced with identical emoticon characters sent via the email. My preferred emoticon has no nose, but that gets converted to the image for me anyway.

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Engaged ,
May 16, 2009 May 16, 2009

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Kath-H wrote:

As requested, a thread for annoying little things that we hope can be easily fixed - not the biggies like failing to go back to where you last read, being logged out mid-post, lack of NNTP etc - just niggly little things.

Don't be ridiculous... they won't (or can't) fix major issues and you think they're worried about niggles?

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LEGEND ,
May 16, 2009 May 16, 2009

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Here are two minor niggles:


1.  In the reply box, if I want to add text at the beginning of a message, I insert the cursor there but often it immediately jumps to the end of the text.


2. Sometimes, in the middle of composing a piece of immortal prose, the whole reply box becomes un-editable. I have to switch to HTML view and back to unlock it.

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Advocate ,
May 16, 2009 May 16, 2009

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I experience 1) quite often, not 2) so far.

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LEGEND ,
May 17, 2009 May 17, 2009

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Same here. Writing here was not straightforward.

Kath-H wrote:

I experience 1) quite often, not 2) so far.

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Advisor ,
May 17, 2009 May 17, 2009

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1.  In the reply box, if I want to add text at the beginning of a message, I insert the cursor there but often it immediately jumps to the end of the text.

Using the default editor in FF 3.0.10, I often find my cursor has jumped to the begginning of the message when I delete multiple lines or a quote or code block in the middle of my message. In this particular message, that means that I am suddenly typing before the 1. in the quote block above. Basically, any time I delete a selection that includes a line feed, the cursor jumps to the beginning. I'm thinking these may be quirks in the TinyMCE code, but I can't say whether it is specific to this site or if all sites with TinyMCE editors have this symptom.

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Engaged ,
May 22, 2009 May 22, 2009

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I'll second Mark's complaint. TinyMCE is a complete moron about multiple line editing.

Anything with multiple lines in FF 3.0.10 results in various weirdness.

- Selecting multiple lines & delete. Result: nothing happens.

- Selecting multiple lines in the middle of text and deleting. Result: Text deletes but cursor jumps to beginning of text.

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Advocate ,
May 23, 2009 May 23, 2009

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I have noticed that if you hover over a person's avatar, or poke into their 'Stuff', you see links to some recent posts. However these are not generally the most recent. I just wonder if they are picked at random - and if there is any point?

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Guide ,
May 23, 2009 May 23, 2009

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Not 100% sure, but I think those are threads the user in question created.

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Advocate ,
May 23, 2009 May 23, 2009

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Ah, OK. Still not recent though - in my 'Stuff' is a thread I created on 31 December 2006.

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Guide ,
May 23, 2009 May 23, 2009

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Kath-H wrote:

…Still not recent though - in my 'Stuff' is a thread I created on 31 December 2006.

Maybe a reply to the thread was added recelty by someone else.

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LEGEND ,
May 16, 2009 May 16, 2009

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This is from another forum I frequent, and I find it most useful, even though the Back button works perfectly there....

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Would be great to have it here.

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