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Hi Os,
First i agree with Nancy, and NO i did not censor your post.
Just as a personal observation now.
These problems were a given in that sooner or later thay were bound to happen. As someone who was called out of retirerment to fix problems with the further development of an application, i can tell you that since the financial crash budgets in all large companies and organisations have been cut to such an extent, that the end race to the bottom started about 6 years ago, and has now finally started to come home.
Even companies like Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Oracle and obviously Adobe, cut costs so much that now all software has started to fail in the worst possible ways for all users. Development team members changed so often that no one knew how the software worked anymore, they were scared to criticise or disagree with so called managers, and bugs were almost never fixed to a satisfactory standard.
I am not blaming any employee of any company, as they can do nothing but publicly support a companys products and services. What one can blame though is the lack of foresight and planning, in that it should be obvious that if one cuts costs, there comes a point at which reliability and investment are the only items left to cut, and that point was hit 5-6 years ago. We have seen it in the questions asked in this forum, in that many people think that only profit matters, and how they code is irrelevant, providing it does the job for now, then they think the future be dammed.
Look at all the systems hit by hackers in the last 6 months, and the arguments we hear from governments and industry advisors, that in order to balance the books, cost cutting is the only way. Then look at the lack of experiance by those saying it, and they all have justifications for the reduction in quality of so called premium services and products.
Complaints of pensioner over for now.
Safari 10.3 now works o/k on the iPad, but i can no longer log-out. Every time i log-out it appears to have done so, but if i then open a forum page it logs me back in again automatically, (stay logged in un-checked).
Os, edit works as i am now adding this.
I'm also wondering how much this bug has/will affect participation in the forum. Dw was comming up to that time when traffic traditionally dropped off anyway, (school/uni holidays).
at least it will give everyone time to prepare for the inevitable complaints about the next release of Dw, (no matter how good or bad it is) just hope it is better than 2017.
Hello to my fellow sufferers, at the moment ist looks like that all my German forum's JIVE links work.
And only as a side note: I was pretty glad to actually have found this one of all these threads in my time slot, which was made available for some seconds, by chance! 
Hans-Günter
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