The joys of Jive

Report · Nov 18, 2009

In the latest reincarnation, after days of

lousy response, inserting returns in lines on it's ow

n volition, it also inse

rts a lot of crap in quotes, it no longer allows the upload of image

s that were allowed a few days ago, but are not longer accepted,

the insertion of God knows how much crap in the HTML code, this looks like a major catastrophe. Not only user names were modified, sometimes beyond recognition, threads disappeared, the search function that does anything BUT search, but not being able to post normal content and screenshots is a major handicap.

Adobe, get your act together and get us some forum software that works!

Report · Nov 18, 2009

You forgot that the logout option is missing in action too. Log out

, close the browser (this carriage return problem too)

and then come back. Your still logged in and the option to log out at the top is missing.

Sweet.

Report · Nov 18, 2009

Post # 12 is a prime example of the crap inserted in quotes:

http://forums.adobe.com/message/2402838?tstart=0#2402838

When you open HTML view it is even worse. It looks like:

<body><pre class="jive_text_macro jive_macro_quote" id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="function(){}" onkeydown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeypress="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeyup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousemove="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseout="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseover="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" jivemacro="quote" _title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}">function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))} I don't know that I would agree with that general statement about ALL P55 Motherboards.</pre>
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"> 
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}">You don't need to agree with the general statement, accept the facts! Just look here: <a href="http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3634">http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showd...>
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"> 
<pre class="jive_text_macro jive_macro_quote" id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="function(){}" onkeydown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeypress="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeyup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousemove="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseout="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseover="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" jivemacro="quote" _title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}">function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))} High performance boards such as the DX58SO</pre>
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"> 
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}">I would argue that statement. The Intel is not high performance, it is crippled by design. Glad you are happy with that Intel board. I would hate it to buy a crippled mobo that cannot perform what nearly every other brand can.
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"> 
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}">PS. The joys of Jive keep insisting to insert crap in the quotes.</body>

Report · Nov 18, 2009

wow, guess so.

but look at this: ? Weird

Harm Millaard wrote:
Post # 12 is a prime example of the crap inserted in quotes:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/2402838?tstart=0#2402838
When you open HTML view it is even worse. It looks like:
<body><pre class="jive_text_macro jive_macro_quote" id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="function(){}" onkeydown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeypress="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeyup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousemove="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseout="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseover="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" jivemacro="quote" _title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}">function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))} I don't know that I would agree with that general statement about ALL P55 Motherboards.</pre>
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"> 
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}">You don't need to agree with the general statement, accept the facts! Just look here: <a href="http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3634">http://www.anandtech.c om/cpuchipsets/show...>
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"> 
<pre class="jive_text_macro jive_macro_quote" id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="function(){}" onkeydown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeypress="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeyup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousemove="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseout="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseover="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" jivemacro="quote" _title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}">function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))} High performance boards such as the DX58SO</pre>
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"> 
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}">I would argue that statement. The Intel is not high performance, it is crippled by design. Glad you are happy with that Intel board. I would hate it to buy a crippled mobo that cannot perform what nearly every other brand can.
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"> 
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}">PS. The joys of Jive keep insisting to insert crap in the quotes.</body>

Report · Nov 18, 2009

You quoted the whole message. I copied just your

second line of reponse and pressed CTRL-V, highlighted

that line and pressed the "" button:

function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}but look at this: ? Weird

In the preview it looks good, but after posting... and the HTML view is again absurd:

<body><p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousedown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}">You quoted the whole message. I copied just your
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousedown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}">second line of reponse and pressed CTRL-V, highlighted
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousedown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}">that line and pressed the "" button:
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousedown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"> 
<pre class="jive_text_macro jive_macro_quote" id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="function(){}" onkeydown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeypress="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeyup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousemove="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseout="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseover="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" jivemacro="quote" _title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}">function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}but look at this: ? Weird</pre>
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousedown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"> In the preview it looks good, but after posting...</body>

Report · Nov 18, 2009

When you posted you had a smaller window with a link. So I went to your link then came back and your post had grown to what I quoted. That is what you mean, correct?

This return carriage problem is driving me up a tree.

Report · Nov 18, 2009

I mean this crap in the HTML view, that is repeated a number of t

imes without value added:

id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousedown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}">

Why is that? Seems like a lot of wasted bandwidth and space. In this message again, the HTML is ridiculous. Look below:

<body><p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeydown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeypress="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeyup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousedown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousemove="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseout="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseover="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}">I mean this crap in the HTML view, that is repeated a number of t
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeydown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeypress="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeyup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousedown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousemove="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseout="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseover="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}">imes without value added:
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeydown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeypress="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeyup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousedown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousemove="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseout="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseover="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"> 
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeydown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeypress="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeyup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousedown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousemove="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseout="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseover="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}">id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousedown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}">
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeydown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeypress="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeyup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousedown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousemove="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseout="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseover="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"> 
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeydown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeypress="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeyup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousedown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousemove="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseout="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseover="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}">Why is that? Seems like a lot of wasted bandwidth and space. In this message again, the HTML is ridiculous. Look below:
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeydown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeypress="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeyup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousedown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousemove="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseout="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseover="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"> 
<p id="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" lang="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" ondblclick="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeydown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeypress="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onkeyup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousedown="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmousemove="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseout="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseover="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" onmouseup="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}" title="function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}"> </body>

Report · Nov 18, 2009

Ok, I understand now.

Report · Nov 18, 2009

This return carriage problem is driving me up a tree.

That seems to happen to me about 1:3 replies. Just happened in this line.

Hunt

Report · Nov 18, 2009

dec9 wrote:
Your still logged in and the option to log out at the top is missing.
Sweet.

Tut... tut... tut. You guys are never happy... when i used to log you out you used to complain and said you didn't want to be logged out... Now, when i don't log you out, you complain and say you can't log out... Sheesh... why can't you guys make up your minds instead of Jivin' me all the time!

Report · Nov 18, 2009

dec9 wrote:
You forgot that the logout option is missing in action too. Log out
, close the browser (this carriage return problem too)
and then come back. Your still logged in and the option to log out at the top is missing.
Sweet.

There is this new FAQ about the logout problem:

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/525685?tstart=0

and here is my variation taking into account the fact that I had no Sign Out button: 31.

Report · Nov 18, 2009

Harm,

Your experiences mirror mine in all respects.

With the exception of the loss of the "camera" icon, I can work around the rest. I have found that if I log-in from the Adobe.com screen to my old screen name/account and navigate to the fora, things work OK. I also seem to stay logged-in longer. I was 4 hours, almost on the dot, but now seems to be ~12.

Block quotes just take several goes and Ctrl+Z's to get it to work, and the hard returns issue only happens (to me) once per reply.

The Attach File on the bottom still works, but I cannot use the camera, even on 40x40 JPEG's, or PNG's. Maybe soon?

We'll find ways to get by, but it's not a good sign in my book.

Now, if I can just find my missing Adobe product registrations...

Hunt

Report · Nov 19, 2009

Harm Millaard wrote:
the search function that does anything BUT search

Search on one of the 4 nodes of the forum cluster is down. If you don't have any search result at all, chances are you are on that node.

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