Another mistery

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As I understand things, the green blob in this screenshot of the main page of the forum in Spanish

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indicates that the question in this 2009 thread has been answered. There are however a few curious things:

1. No message in the thread is marked as the correct answer.

2. The author of the question was last logged in these forums in December 2009, when there was no button for marking an answer as correct.

3. The thread was revived in June 2011 by someone with the same problem, but there were no further posts until today.

4. Today's only post is the first post by someone who appears just as "member".

5. To the best of my knowledge, there has never been a moderator in the forum in Spanish.

6. As far as I can tell, this is the first case in that forum of a thread marked as answered by someone different from the originator of the thread.

So my question is: where did this green blob come from?

Incidentally, I don't know if today's post is a correct answer to the question. First because I don't have Illustrator and therefore cannot test it, and second because the method is written in a manner that makes it very difficult to follow and understand it.

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Another mistery

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As I understand things, the green blob in this screenshot of the main page of the forum in Spanish

curious.JPG

indicates that the question in this 2009 thread has been answered. There are however a few curious things:

1. No message in the thread is marked as the correct answer.

2. The author of the question was last logged in these forums in December 2009, when there was no button for marking an answer as correct.

3. The thread was revived in June 2011 by someone with the same problem, but there were no further posts until today.

4. Today's only post is the first post by someone who appears just as "member".

5. To the best of my knowledge, there has never been a moderator in the forum in Spanish.

6. As far as I can tell, this is the first case in that forum of a thread marked as answered by someone different from the originator of the thread.

So my question is: where did this green blob come from?

Incidentally, I don't know if today's post is a correct answer to the question. First because I don't have Illustrator and therefore cannot test it, and second because the method is written in a manner that makes it very difficult to follow and understand it.

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Claudio,

Your understanding of the green icon is the same, as mine.

I wonder if there is perhaps a time limit, where an "auto assumption" might kick in, and mark an older thread Answered?

Also, a MOD could have marked that, but I would hope that they would do so, ONLY after reading, and determining that there IS a Correct Answer in the Replies.

Hunt

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I don't think there is anything resembling an auto assumption.

Bill Hunt wrote:

I wonder if there is perhaps a time limit, where an "auto assumption" might kick in, and mark an older thread Answered?

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TerriStoneCHL wrote:

I don't think there is anything resembling an auto assumption.

Bill Hunt wrote:

I wonder if there is perhaps a time limit, where an "auto assumption" might kick in, and mark an older thread Answered?

And if there was, the forum in Spanish would have hundreds of threads with green blobs.

Also, I would be surprised if a Spanish speaking moderator (is there any?) decided today and for the first time to visit that one thread and mark it as answered.

Thanks for trying, though, Bill.

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Terri,

Thank you for that confirmation.

Then that leaves two options:

  1. A MOD marked the thread as Answered
  2. The OP revisited the thread, and marked it as Answered

Appreciated,

Hunt

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Bill,

1. Only instance in years of a mod visiting -and doing anything- in the forum in Spanish? Very hard to swallow.

2. Revisit a thread nearly three years later, make a change in it, an leave no trace of her presence there (Last Logged In: 03-dic-2009 12:30)? Even harder to swallow.

Let's stick to wine instead of trying to tragar ruedas de carreta (Spanish idiom translating to swallow cart wheels).

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Claudio, I get the distinct impression that you take this stuff altogether too seriously.  Bill's just trying to help. 

You make the tacit assumption, by discounting Bill's suggestions, that there was no way to mark a thread as Answered in 2009.  Are you sure about that?

-Noel

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Of couse I can't be 100% sure, but this would then be the only message to have deserved a green blob in many, many months around that date. And I am in very good terms with Bill - or so I think.


And you seem to be very concerned about what I am concerned about...

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Everyone's just trying to help and you all have great intentions.. Let's all remember that.

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In the past, there was a way to tag a thread as answered without marking a particular post as the answer, but that feature has not made it back yet.

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The plot thickens.

I find threads like this valuable because the knowledge, and hopefully the user friendliness, of the forums are increased by the findings.

They also form valuable occasions of presenting and demonstrating important concepts, such as tragar ruedas de carreta and vergüenza ajena.

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Pierre,

I was unaware that the capability for a MOD marking a thread as "Answered," was missing.

Thank you for updating me on that.

Hunt

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And I am in very good terms with Bill - or so I think.

Claudio,

We ARE on very good terms.

Then there must me another answer, beyond the ones that popped into my mind, but I have no clue what that might be.

Sorry,

Hunt

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Bill Hunt wrote:

Pierre,

I was unaware that the capability for a MOD marking a thread as "Answered," was missing.

Thank you for updating me on that.

Hunt

Bill, I think Pierre needs to clarify his message. I understood a completely different thing.

And thanks for confirming that we are in very good terms. I haven't ever felt attacked by you, and I very much doubt that I have ever attacked you. Quite the contrary. A toast for this, and for the old fashioned concept of friendship?

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Claudio,

Based on an earlier reply, I will "stick to wine," and you get a toast with a Napa Cellars Chardonnay! To "friendship."

Hope that Pierre will clarify, and then I will "toast" to him, but might open up a Montrachet for that occasion...

Hunt

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I understood post #9 by Pierre in the same way as did Claudio, although I should prefer to hope that Bill had it right, and that it will remain that way.

However, in any case, the plot thickens even more either way.

Unless, of course, the Correct Answer marking of the old mistery thread (partially shown in this mistery thread) actually happened back then but had been caught in one of the rifts in the time space continuum. Others have been reported in this forum.

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Sorry if I wasn't clear. I just stated that before the skin updates, there was a way for moderators to mark a thread as "answered", without the need to mark a particular post as the correct answer. (We can still do the latter)

Useful when there are more than one correct answers, or to avoid giving points to Bill, as we don't know what would happen to the world as we know it if his point count goes too high!

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Thank you for the clarification, Pierre, although I found your original statement clear already, expressing what Claudio and I thought, unfortunately.

But as I said, the plot thickens: the thread in question has been marked Answered without any Correct Answer, quite recently, after the skin updates.

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Pierre,

Thank you for the clarification. That was pretty much how I remembered things too.

Now, how that impacts (or does not) Claudio's original observations, and comments, I cannot tell.

As for the points, I tried to cash in a bunch of those (like I do with Hilton and United Airlines) to buy the full CS6 Master Collection, but Adobe would not let me do it. Maybe I can get United to take Adobe "points" for a ticket to London????

Appreciated,

Hunt

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But as I said, the plot thickens: the thread in question has been marked Answered without any Correct Answer, quite recently, after the skin updates.

Yes, it does thicken. Maybe a "ghost in the machine?" Or, it could be something that no one has thought of yet, like some sort of "timing" thing? I do not think that John C, Terri, or others, have had the time to poke around older threads, marking them, as they see fit, but still, who knows?

I have found a couple of older posts, that also sport the green "Answered" icon, with no "Correct Answer" Reply indicated, but those were threads that I had not been following, and some that I had never even seen, so cannot comment on the timing of the "award" of the green icon. Maybe from way-back, or maybe the day that I noticed them.

Since Claudio is familiar with the thread that he cited, I think that might be the only example, that has some "history" behind it. Still do not know what it means, or how it happened though.

Hunt

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At one point there was a way for a user to mark his thread as answered without identifying a particular post.

-Noel

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Bill Hunt wrote:

As for the points, I tried to cash in a bunch of those (like I do with Hilton and United Airlines) to buy the full CS6 Master Collection, but Adobe would not let me do it.

Appreciated,

Hunt

Perhaps you should tell Adobe to give you free Muse access so that you can answer all the questions that are going unanswered in muse forums.  Unless some volunteers have access to Muse, these questions won't be answered.  In UK people are sent to House of Lords and address them as Lord Bill.

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I have never explored Muse, but maybe it's time?

Hunt

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