greenjumpyone wrote:
Claudio,
that would be communicating ...
Hopper, you must be very brave. Using forbidden words is... well, somehow not very welcome by some people around here. Specially by those who decide which words are just not right. "Communicating"..., well, what could that concept possibly have to do at all with these forums?
Over the last 24 hours I have deleted approximately 1500 messages. JC deleted a similar number. Before I started the Database Communication with JRun forum looked like the screenshot below:
The spam in another forum is such that it is still closed while it is being cleaned up. Considering the magnitude of the spam problem we are fighting I think you find little support for a position that it is beneficial to leave a notice in place when a thread and/or message is deleted.
As to having threads marked in some way as locked, I would welcome a feature in the software to display that for those using the web interface. Your best bet is to go over to the Jive site and register an enhancement request for that. Moderator support for manually adding something to thread titles is probably sketchy. Those who support it already do it (when not made impossible by the inaccessibility of these forums on some devices). Those who don't, don't.
Sorry we are having so much trouble.
Shame there is no magic button we could press on Spammer that would send a signal to burn out their computer, modem and, Router. 
WE need enforceable laws on the books where anyone sending blatant Spam could be subject to amandentory $100,000 per incidnet fine , or two year prison term with no time off for good behavior.
Hi Claudio
For what it's worth, I do agree with you that one might expect the option to add a comment to be enabled by default.
The only issue I see with that, is that folks are often in a hurry and either simply don't have the time or don't wish to take the time to additionally add the reason for editing.
I'm thinking if the option were simply enabled by default, we might suddenly begin seeing lots of posts that end with something like this:
And that would likely lead to more questions and frustration than we already see.
Cheers... Rick 
Hi Hopper
Indeed it would be interesting to see. But I'd be a bit skeptical of the results. I figure most folks out there operate just as I do. I nearly always reply to posts using the Web interface. But I receive notifications of all the forums I'm interested in, via my In-Box.
Works like this. Someone asks a question.
E-Mail is transmitted to those subscribed.
I see the message and choose to reply, so I click a link.
Browser displays page, I click the reply button and either log in or reply.
As you can see, there is a blend of E-Mail and Web activity there.
Cheers... Rick
Captiv8r wrote:
Hi Hopper
Indeed it would be interesting to see. But I'd be a bit skeptical of the results. I figure most folks out there operate just as I do. I nearly always reply to posts using the Web interface. But I receive notifications of all the forums I'm interested in, via my In-Box.
Works like this. Someone asks a question.
E-Mail is transmitted to those subscribed.
I see the message and choose to reply, so I click a link.
Browser displays page, I click the reply button and either log in or reply.
As you can see, there is a blend of E-Mail and Web activity there.
Cheers... Rick
Your using the email Notifications system. That's what I do.
I don't want to be hassled with having to go to Forums web page, then bury down several layers get to the group (forum) I want to read then scroll to threads I want to read.
I only subscribe to just this forum and Acrobat Mac. I have strayed several times. Once or twice deliberately. Most, I was dragged along with a move and wasn't aware. I had to unsubscribe to the thread, and the group I was Dragged to. even on this I pick and choose to which I make a Comment in. Some subjects (in Acrobat) I have no clue what to suggest. Some I have exeperienced, some I look up the information I post. Some other have answered with a better answer than I could suggest.
I was asking in a somewhat hidden way for the information to be added manually on each locked thread. And that would be very time consuming if one was very busy locking threads
Ah, the "veiled reference." It was too subtle for me. I missed things, and apologize. I thought you were referring to the inclusion of the old Locked icon from the "good-old-days." Sorry to have been so daft on this one.
Mea culpa, mea culpa, my comments can be disregarded.
Hunt
for posts, I think that perhaps all that it would take would be to make " - this indicates when changes were made and by whom." the selected option by default.
OK, I am still playing along, as the discussion seems to have moved to real world issues, or at least I think they have.
In most product fora, when a MOD does edit, or lock a thread, there is almost always a comment to that effect. It's always been similar to the "Edited by" tag line. Now, these particular fora probably get a bit less traffic than others here do. Also, even when logged in on basically an around the clock basis, I have seen scant little spam in any of them, so the work load is much less. In very high-traffic fora, this might just not be possible.
Hunt
PS - still, that little Lock icon would be helpful...
I would be interested to see the numbers on the folks who are only subscribed via email and those via the web.
FWIW, here is one vote for Web-access only.
Years ago, when things were NTTP-only, that was my method. When Web came about, it did take some years to access via browser, as all of my news readers were set up for the "old way." I get too much e-mail to even bother with that access-point, but then I remember the ARPANET... [For me, that probably should read "AARP a NET."]
Hunt
the_wine_snob wrote:
In most product fora, when a MOD does edit, or lock a thread, there is almost always a comment to that effect.
Yes, Hunt, you are correct. Here, it's up to the moderator and most (note that I did not say all) don't take the time to inform the readers of deletions/edits etc. They stealthily delete posts (messing up the post counts) or remove sentences/phrases/words from a post. When one refreshes the main forum comments page, a thread might show an update. If one were to click on the "last post", it will take you to a post higher on the list, because it had been edited. It's very confusing if you had read the post previously, because now something is different and you don't know how, why or who made a change.
If they are unable to put an icon next to the thread title, a simpe [LOCKED] would be sufficient.
If they are going to edit a post they could simply put [edited for content by {put forum host's name here}].
Apparently that seems to be too much to ask.
the_wine_snob wrote:
When one refreshes the main forum comments page, a thread might show an update. If one were to click on the "last post", it will take you to a post higher on the list, because it had been edited.
Claudio,Thank you for the clarification. I had seen some threads, new to me, with references to Last Post, and to reply counts, and just did not get the issue. Now, it's cleared up - for me at least.
Thank you,
Hunt
PS - I guess that I hang in a bunch of backwater, low-traffic fora. Had not taken notice before.
It was Hopper who wrote that, not me 
.
I guess that that is what I get for turning off the Threaded View.
In that case, Hopper - thanks a bunch!
Hunt
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