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It would be nice if there were a place in "Your stuff" that listed all of the forums you visit regularly. Clicking on "Browse forums" brings up an unwieldy list each time. And the History link is too short. Perhaps a way to "pin" forums in the bottom half of the history list would be the best way.

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It would be nice if there were a place in "Your stuff" that listed all of the forums you visit regularly. Clicking on "Browse forums" brings up an unwieldy list each time. And the History link is too short. Perhaps a way to "pin" forums in the bottom half of the history list would be the best way.

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It would also be nice if the reply field was already on the page without requiring one more slow page load.

Also nice would be if the forum remembered where you were last time you read a post so you could scroll right to the unread messages.

Also nice would a lot less clutter all over the screen. I don't need to see avatars or how long someone's been on the forum. Even less useful is the More Like This section which I'll bet nobody uses more than once, since it's so awful.

Also nice would be the ability to use my browser's spelling checker instead of having to load the forum's slow. clunky one that doesn't have my custom dictionary in it. What the fuck were they thinking when they put that in there?

We had all of these features, and much more, in the old forums. But the assholes in Adobe's marketing department, who are obviously trying to run the company into the ground, felt the forum needed better visual branding to make it look more Adobe-esque. I guess that means as crappy as they've made Illustrator in the last eight years.

The new forums are a total, craptacular failure. There's less debate about that among forum regulars then there is about global warming or evolutions among scientists. In the last six or seven years I have seen Adobe make dumber and dumber mistakes and show less interest in correcting them or even acknowledging them, than in any other company, including Microsoft (MS even let HP keep selling PSc with WXP until 2010, a full two versions below what they expect to then sell themselves).

Remember that this is the same company that's fully satisfied with the program icons in the entire suite; that thinks the last six versions of Illustrator were ready to ship when they did; that thinks the installer for CS4 is an improvement over CS3, which was an improvement over CS2; and that the Adobe updater is not a huge annoying bucket of shit.

Basically, we're screwed.

Edit: Censoring's new. Don't really care about that, but why did they bleep "b u c k e t"?

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[Edit: Profanity removed]  jive

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OMG, and that *didn't* get bleeped!!!       

great software ....

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I didn't say a word 

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greenjumpyone wrote:

OMG, and that *didn't* get bleeped!!!       

great software ....

lol! there's much you don't know, grasshopper.


i could tell you but then you'd have to kick the bucket...

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<Resisting temptation to post something very naughty in 48pt red IMPACT>

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Go for it

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I don't get it.

MANY people complained about the "nanny" filter, and several said there should not be one at all in a professional forum. Now that they've apparently turned it off, people are complaining about it?

And now some of you are acting just like the teenage chat-room script-kiddies that the filter was probably designed for.

I don't get it.

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It's not been turned off. People are expressing dissatisfaction by messing with it.

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Kath-H wrote:

It's not been turned off. People are expressing dissatisfaction by messing with it.

Ah. I must have missed that. Sheesh! Bucket is bad, but [profanity removed] is OK (well, it's much better than OK, now that I think of it )

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Buko. wrote:

[Edit: Profanity removed]  jive

Oh my god! I got reported for abuse.

[Edit: Profanity removed] snitch

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Mark A. Boyd wrote:

I don't get it.

MANY people complained about the "nanny" filter, and several said there should not be one at all in a professional forum. Now that they've apparently turned it off, people are complaining about it?

Its not turned off just circumvented.

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Yea, Kath-H corrected me already. And I was able to see the method used before we were all edited - and in your previous reply, too. Mine wasn't even clever.

<p>Oh well. Just so long as people don't have to see words like <span>bu</span><span>cket</span> anywhere.</p>

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Sorry Mark I had to report abuse you said Bucket

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Hah! You actually did! Why does my coffee taste like soap this morning?

I wonder just how we're supposed to use that particular word for the most effective swearing?

v. I got bucketed last night.

n. Do you remember your first bucket?

adv. Was it the best bucketing thing you had experienced?

slang. Fan-bucketing-tastic!

Is Adobe really the first of Jive's clients with users who might use the word?

But I'm even more curious about the mind that put that word in the list
and chooses to keep it there. What does that person actually <strong>do</strong> with a buc<span></span>ket?

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Mark A. Boyd wrote:

What does that person actually do with a bucket?

Let's see:  wash a car (with soap and water IN the b u c k e t), pick weeds (use the b u c k e t to hold the picked weeds) ... gosh the list could go on.  ... but well ... b u c k e t.

edit:  you're kidding me, right?  the word b u c k e t  is a baneed word?  what a joke!

Message was edited by: greenjumpyone

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greenjumpyone wrote:

Mark A. Boyd wrote:

What does that person actually do with a bucket?

Let's see:  wash a car (with soap and water IN the ******), pick weeds (use the ****** to hold the picked weeds) ... gosh the list could go on.  ... but well ... ******.

OH! What a filthy mind *you* have. Yes, let's keep that word in the list, by all means!

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didja see my edit?

I really had no idea b u c k e t was a banned word!  Amzaing.

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greenjumpyone wrote:

didja see my edit?

Yea, but not 'til after I hit Post Message. So my quotes caught you in all your nasty use of the word before you edited it

I really had no idea b u c k e t was a banned word!  Amzaing.

Ain't it, though?

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Mark A. Boyd wrote:

greenjumpyone wrote:

didja see my edit?

Yea, but not 'til after I hit Post Message. So my quotes caught you in all your nasty use of the word before you edited it

I really had no idea b u c k e t was a banned word!  Amzaing.

Ain't it, though?

it ain't amazing, it's just bucked up.

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dave milbut wrote:

Mark A. Boyd wrote:

greenjumpyone wrote:

didja see my edit?

Yea, but not 'til after I hit Post Message. So my quotes caught you in all your nasty use of the word before you edited it

I really had no idea b u c k e t was a banned word!  Amzaing.

Ain't it, though?

it ain't amazing, it's just bucked up.

You, sir, are wicked funny.  Perhaps a bit strange at times, but funny.  Here.  Take 1,000 points! 

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lol!

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Scott Falkner wrote:

It would also be nice if the reply field was already on the page without requiring one more slow page load.

I wouldn't mind that - if it replies to the last message.

The old Web forums (both sides) ALWAYS replied to the original post. That makes absolutely no sense at all in a threaded view - especially when there is no quote from a message to give it context.

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I'd get rid of threaded views. And bring back polls.

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The browser threaded view doesn't do much, but if they get the email system working correctly, it will be a real plus for those of us who take advantage of threaded views.

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Yes, but it's likely to cause much confusion for people who don't. I think someone is trying to cater for different groups, fine, but not doing it very well. The return of NNTP for those who like it might be best.

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Kath-H wrote:

Yes, but it's likely to cause much confusion for people who don't.

Why? In the old systems there was no visible indication that the reply was going to post to the original post.

I guess I could live with the old system of having both the Reply link in each message (as this system has) plus a reply box at the bottom that goes to the original. The problem is that - at least in the WebX forums, almost nobody used the reply link. The topics in some of the WebX forums were essentially chat rooms with little or no quoting. The FuseTalk forums had both options, too, but at least a few more people used the reply button.

The return of NNTP for those who like it might be best.

Indeed! But they might get a decent email system going before they ever think about putting NNTP back. At least, that seems to be the current focus.

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usually, the reason for having both a reply button and a quick reply function is so that you can use the quick reply if you only want to add some text and you can use the reply button to get all the functionality including an interface for linking/quoting/etc which you'd have to do manually with tags in quick reply but i don't know if the jive forums support something like this as threaded view tends to make it impossible to have a quick reply function

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Well, actually I'm happy with the new forums. I avoided the old ones because the navigation seemed so chaotic and the threads were difficult to read.

Anyway, back to the thread topic. Pinned forums in the history or favorites in the "Your stuff" would be great.

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buraihan wrote:

Well, actually I'm happy with the new forums. I avoided the old ones because the navigation seemed so chaotic and the threads were difficult to read.

Anyway, back to the thread topic. Pinned forums in the history or favorites in the "Your stuff" would be great.

Are you serious?  You really thought the old forum was hard to navigate?  The threads were difficult to read?  How so??

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All the indented links for threads. The way that the the posts in a thread would get collapsed down and hidden, so you'd have to expand the thread each time, etc.

Also, the worst thing about them, is how unconstructive they are. Everyone that wants to vent about Adobe comes here to do so, which makes browsing them frustrating. Better if people would just share their problems and tips.

Anyway, lets stay on topic.

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Are you talking about the old Macromedia forums? I think most people there gave up and used newsreaders.

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I believe you can set up some kind of home page with your favourite forums listed there.

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Great. How do you do that?

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buraihan wrote:

Great. How do you do that?

See reply #2 here

Re: Tip: How to setup a decent working environment

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Maybe I misunderstand the problem of navigating to Favorite Forums.  But why not just bookmark the forum you want to visit, click and you are there?

No navigation problems.

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Maybe I misunderstand the problem of navigating to Favorite Forums.  But why not just bookmark the forum you want to visit, click and you are there?

The old method required one bookmark. Back from the Illustrator Mac forum would be one keystroke to the Message Centre where I had access to all my favourite forums.

Your suggestion (which is sadly the only solution) would require over a dozen bookmarks and  a trip to the bookmark bar, and likely through a submenu whenever I wanted to switch forums, rather that one simple keystroke.

[Edit: Profanity removed]

and proof that Adobe does not care one gram about their users.

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you have that here too, go to the main forums page, select the Your View tab, click on personalize and drag in some Recent Discusions widgets and set them to show the forums that you're interested in

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Only seem to be able to bookmark recent discussion, not any discussion or any forum.

Edit: Nope, can't do a damn thing on that page. Dragging does not affect home page, it's just like dragging any link in Safari.

As I said,

[Edit: Profanity removed.]

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