How did this happen???

LEGEND ,
Jun 04, 2009 Jun 04, 2009

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I did NOT post this:

http://forums.adobe.com/message/2013680#2013680

Any ideas?

I did post one email to this thread which never made it (and didn't get returned either). The cotent of the email had no connection to this though...

Harbs

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Mentor ,
Jun 04, 2009 Jun 04, 2009

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I was wondering what that post had to do with that thread.

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LEGEND ,
Jun 04, 2009 Jun 04, 2009

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Since you didn't post it, I deleted it and it was not relevant to the discussion, I have deleted it.

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LEGEND ,
Jun 04, 2009 Jun 04, 2009

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Thanks Michael,

But that does beg the question. How did it happen, and what's to make

sure it doesn't happen again?

Harbs

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Advocate ,
Jun 04, 2009 Jun 04, 2009

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Any relation to the email someone got addressed to someone else (Jim Stone) about resetting password?

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Advocate ,
Jun 04, 2009 Jun 04, 2009

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I think I remember the post you're talking about, but it's deleted now. Had a feeling it was a bug when I saw it.

What happened is -- you got Jived!

Jive bugs, that's what happened! (I'm guessing..)

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Advisor ,
Jun 04, 2009 Jun 04, 2009

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Since the email posting seems to carry a lot of info in the title of the email, could that be spoofed somehow? 

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not watching you!

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Adobe Employee ,
Jun 04, 2009 Jun 04, 2009

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With it having been deleted there isn't much I can do to research it. Can you tell me more about it?

Thanks!

John

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LEGEND ,
Jun 04, 2009 Jun 04, 2009

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Hi John,

I was worried about that!

Here's what I posted by email:

Message-Id: <3228EB54-A9C1-4A23-BA81-ACCA5E524CFF@in-tools.com>
From: Harbs <(email address)>
To: clearspace-603211170-226098-2-2011540@mail.forums.adobe.com
In-Reply-To: <1232099930.347741244079849754.JavaMail.jive@sgaurwa44p>
Content-Type: text/plain;
     charset=US-ASCII;
     format=flowed;
     delsp=yes
X-Smtp-Server: smtp.1and1.com:harbs@in-tools.com
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3)
Subject: Re: [Forum comments] Re: A Different Perspective On The Point System
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:54:56 +0300
References: <1232099930.347741244079849754.JavaMail.jive@sgaurwa44p>

I think Dave hit the nail on the head.

Whoever implemented the point system obviously considers the forums a 
place where users should be encouraged to give free tech support to 
newbies for Adobe's products (and save Adobe money on tech 
support...), while traditionally it's been a place where users can 
learn from each other (pros and newbies alike) to get a greater depth 
of understanding of the programs.

What's getting all of us worked up is this shift in focus. If the 
entire purpose of posting is to increase ones point status, the forum 
has become a very shallow experience. While it *is* true that people 
might answer questions for points, the answers will likely be 
shallower answers.

I am personally not against a point system per se, but I am opposed to 
the way it is implemented. If *ALL* users could give points (or kudos, 
or what-have-you) for a useful answer (and not just the OP), with no 
limit to just three per thread, people would be encouraged to give 
more complete and universally useful answers. I believe that such an 
implementation would promote the joint learning atmosphere instead of 
stunting it...

Harbs

On Jun 4, 2009, at 4:44 AM, dave milbut wrote:

>
>> The
>> object of answering questions is to solve problems. Whether the 
>> answer
>> is a 5 liner, or ten page disertation; if  fixes the problem is all
>> that matters.
>
> if that's the purpose of this forum, then yes, yes it is.
>
> if the purpose of this forum is to TEACH adobe's users how to use 
> [an adobe app] photoshop (the way the pros here taught me when i 
> started back in '02 or so) then the points system is destroying this 
> forum.
>
> so maybe adobe needs to clear up the purpose of this forum. is it to 
> be just questions and answers from now on? in effect, a radical 
> shift in direction and departure from its roots? or is it to remain 
> THE resource on the web to go to learn from real professionals how 
> to use adobe's products?
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> This message was sent to: Harbs.
>
> To post a reply to the thread message, either reply to this email 
> (recommended) or visit the message page: http://forums.adobe.com/message/2011540#2011540
>
>
>
>
> --end--

What showed up (some hours later -- under my name) had nothing at all to do with the thread and was signed by someone else entirely.

I noticed that a lot of my email posts today have been very slow to appear...

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Participant ,
Jun 04, 2009 Jun 04, 2009

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Let me know if it happens again. And ask that it not be deleted if you report it here so I can see it.

Thanks!

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