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OK, you're just taunting us, right? (4.5)

LEGEND ,
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http://forums.adobe.com/index.jspa:


Announcement:Welcome to Jive Version 4.5

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Adobe Forums powered by Jive Software's Clearspace ® 2.5.16

Still September. I'll look into that announcement thing.

Thanks!

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OK, you're just taunting us, right? (4.5)

LEGEND ,
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http://forums.adobe.com/index.jspa:


Announcement:Welcome to Jive Version 4.5

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Adobe Forums powered by Jive Software's Clearspace ® 2.5.16

Still September. I'll look into that announcement thing.

Thanks!

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The last time I saw a note from Admin, he said he was hoping for a September rollout for the Jive upgrade... looks like SOMETHING is now happening in August

Slow and steady, with lots of testing, works for me!!!

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Still September. I'll look into that announcement thing.

Thanks!

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9:46 AM West Coast USA... now the index page returns a 404 Not Found error

Grin... I guess THAT takes care of the bogus announcement!

Added 9:48 AM

Index page is back, and the Annoucement concerns forum searching, not Jive 4.5

Still, it's nice to know that September is "good" for the upgrade

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I am out of town for most of Sept, and all of Oct, so maybe I will not have to suffer any "growing pains," but may have a major surprise waiting for me.

Tonight, I have to completely reset my IP's, as my service provider is changing things big-time. Guess that I will just have another session of changing everything, come Sept?

Thanks for the update,

Hunt

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LEGEND ,
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Oh, and while we're at it, here's a short wishlist for the new Jive:

  • Bring back the little red flags on threads with new posts, please
  • Bring back the little "New" icon, for all new posts, since one was last on the page, please, as then I can go back to "Threaded View," or
  • Make switching from Threaded to Flattened View, on the fly, and with a hot-key

Thanks,

Hunt

PS - Of course, if those are not possible (do not know the new Jive), then so be it - just so long as the existing threads do not go "poof."

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Probably much like the old Jive.

Jive is Jive .

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Well, I only hope that we do not look back, and reflect on now as "the good old days... "

I do not know forum software, and am even seldom aware of what a site is running. Obviously, here it would be impossible to ignore. I only relate to "features," like that short list above, from the pre-Jive forums. I do the same with other forums, where I decide which features work for me. I've commented on the nice features in ChowHound, though I do not know what software that site is on. I'm just a user, and not a Web site developer. I see things through the eyes of a mere user.

Good luck to us all,

Hunt

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PjonesCET wrote:

Probably much like the old Jive.

Jive is Jive .

Except a bit slower

It is my experience that all new software tend to be slower than its predecessor on a like with like basis.

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Your accurate on that:

On this new system I'd like to see these abilities returned:

Ability to write a sentence without having it break by itself in the middle of a word and having to take the time to jum to the next line and dlete the Break. A break should happen only when you hit Return/Enter, or you get to the end of the typing area and it has to break to new line.  (Like in a word processor for example.)

Allow the ability to upload problem files, or  files to prove a point. without having to go through some intermediary system and provide links.

Allow the Style menu to function.

Allow Fonts to be changed and reflect those changes in the replies. So that us People with eyesight problems can Read without squinting (even with Glasses).

Install some type of system that prevents Spam and other type Malware.

Have enough Hard drive/ Server space to prevent slowdown. And if there are they should hunted down and fixed ASAP rather than have users complain days before its solved.

If the problems can't be solved with Jive. Then Fire them and use a PHP System replacement that will function work.

I've probably only name just a few of the faults.

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Well, now we have a clue as to what version it's going to be updated to, eh?

-Noel

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In another thread I think the exact version was stated to be 4.5.6

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allow the back button to function correctly, not jump back to page 1.

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dave milbut wrote:

allow the back button to function correctly, not jump back to page 1.

Ideally what is needed is when you go to the forum, the latest post is presented first.  this may mean that the order of presenting the messages may need to be reversed.  Old messages should be at the bottom.

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Are there any corporations using the latest version of this gem yet?  Where can we see this in action to see if it is the right product for busy forums like Adobe's. If it is not tested throughly then it may be too late to change again.  I don't think Adobe is interested to keep updating or changing the software on a regular basis.

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Executing a version upgrade is a very different animal than changing

vendors, especially when the vendor provides not only the software

but hosted management of it. I suspect you are not being realistic.

Jive runs their own forums at

. It's tough to

tell what version they're running exactly, but it's a pretty good bet

it's much more similar to 4.5 than 2.5.

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I went to the link and they are using version 5. we will be updating to 4 minor versions behind what they are using.

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And therefore what?

Harbs

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We are still behind. we should be using version 5 just like everyone else.

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LEGEND ,
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Why? What does version 5 support that will make your forum experience better?

Don't you think that Adobe knows what version of Jive's software exists? Presumably there are intelligent people deciding which version to upgrade to, and if they decided to upgrade to version 4.5 instead of 5, there is probably a valid reason...

Harbs

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LEGEND ,
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Here's a hint of why they might not want to upgrade to 5.0:

2011-08-07_2251.png

Do you really want to be the testing grounds for their new version? The trouble we had until now was bad enough...

Harbs

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I think you are on the wrong track. Obviously, Adobe is not willing to spend much money on these forums, or we wouldn't have two and a half years old bugs...

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You're joking. Right?

You don't seriously believe that it's cheaper to upgrade to 5.0 rather than 4.5. Do you?

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Well if they are going to release reasonably bug free version they are going to do it on their own site.  It would be dumb of them to put a bug ridden version on their own site.

On the other hand it would be samrt of them to put a bug infested version on clients computer's.

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Well hopfully the thousands of bug we have cataloged in the Forum Comments over the past years will be fixed. and abilities such allowing uploading of files for others to view and work on.

Allowing ability to change fonts size, color, formatting will be returned.  Because Jive and Adobe can't figure out how to make them safe.  I could think of dozens of others.

All I want is a Forum that doesn't break up text several times in the middle of a line.  I want to be able to colorize words for emphasis. I want  to be able to  upload files for people either to view or work on. Things we were able to do the first day it was installed.

I want to be able to see forum software that would make this forum the least used forum on the system. And if there are complainst should be fixed within the next day.

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LEGEND ,
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All I want is for people to stop complaining about the forum when we

know that improvements are in progress.

We don't know what they are, but for goodness' sake, please wait patiently

and stop whining like little children!

Let's just wait calmly for the new version and when it arrives, provide

our feedback in a polite and re>asonable fashion, so maybe it will be

considered rather than ignored.

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LEGEND ,
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John Hawkinson wrote:

Let's just wait calmly for the new version and when it arrives, provide

our feedback in a polite and re>asonable fashion, so maybe it will be

considered rather than ignored.

If we wait calmly for the new version would it not be too late by then?  What chance there is for feedbacks to be taken on board when the upgrade has already taken place?  I don't think feedbacks are taken seriously on these forums because the software is maintained outside and it costs money to make changes all the time!

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Harbs. wrote:

You're joking. Right?

You don't seriously believe that it's cheaper to upgrade to 5.0 rather than 4.5. Do you?

I don't know; it may and it may not. I was referring to their reluctance to upgrade in two and a half years. And I would even go as far as saying that I seem to reacall having read one of the mods saying so, long ago (a year?).

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