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I should add. Page loads, but editor panel does not load, leaving post body uneditable (white box, no controls).

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That's awesome (sarcasm).  Then again, it never worked for 9.5 properly either, at least for me.  Had to switch to Chrome specifically to access this rubbish.

Unfortunately most apologists for the Jive Junkware forums will simply say "Opera isn't a supported browser, deal with it".  (Never mind that 99.9% of other forum software works perfectly in Opera.)

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1) I never thought I'd miss the old forum junkware (and boy, it had devoted apologists like all true junk does);

2) It may conceivably be an Opera bug, but it sure would be diligent of Jive to investigate. That would be devotion to excellence right there.

Have a great weekend.

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I don't think Jive has a devotion to anything but selling their snake oil software.  WebX may not have been perfect, but the real junkware is running right now! 

Not an Opera bug-- not when it works on every other forum on the Internet it's not.

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I am typing this now using Opera 10  all controls look fine except they are slightly out of focus looking

Operapicture001.png

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What platform?  I was attempting on Linux.

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PjonesCET wrote:

I am typing this now using Opera 10  all controls look fine except they are slightly out of focus looking

Out of focus! More smoke and mirrors?!!

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Macintosh OSX which is UNIX based.

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Everything sharp and clear on Safari, FireFox, Seamonkey, iCab, OmniWeb.

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Sadly, I cannot duplicate your success with Opera 10 on OS X (PowerPC, 10.4); I see exactly the same issue as on Linux.

(This posted in Safari 4.)

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I have two different Mac's using OSX.4.11 and both work equally as well. And both have the fuzzy look as in the screen shot as above. But everything works.

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PjonesCET wrote:

I have two different Mac's using OSX.4.11 and both work equally as well. And both have the fuzzy look as in the screen shot as above. But everything works.

Mmm... Did you remember to wear your Opera Glasses?

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Well no. I've never been to the opera. Would regualr glasses custom prescribed for use with compter screens do?

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PjonesCET wrote:

I have two different Mac's using OSX.4.11 and both work equally as well. And both have the fuzzy look as in the screen shot as above. But everything works.

Phillip,

Results so far:

* Opera 10 on Linux. No editor.

* Opera 10 on OS X 10.4 PPC (G5). No editor.

* Opera 10 on OS X 10.4 PPC (G4). No editor.

* Opera 10 on OS X 10.5 Intel MacBook. No editor.

* Opera 10 on Windows XP Pro SP3. No editor.

This doesn't make you curious at all? If I were a Jive developer I might be curious about it.

--Toby

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All I know is that I have installed on a G4-500 1.5GB system RAM, OSX.4.11 have all the updates and latestversion of Quicktime Pro.

And on a G4-1.67GB PowerBook 17" 2 GB RAM OSX.4.11 The work fine other than everything appears a little Blurry . Everything does work though.

Besides Opera10 It works fine in

Safari 4.0.3

FireFox3.5.3

SeaMonkey 1.1.18 ans 2.0b2

OmniWeb 5.10.1

iCab 4.6.5

In all of those, all the controls appear clear and sharp.

I am on a DSL connection 1mb both up and download.

And my wireless internet Connection is through a Blekin TypeN wireless router.

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Whether it works in other browsers is irrelevant. Obviously it works for me in other browsers, or I wouldn't be posting at all.

My report can sit there, to be ignored or taken seriously. I've spent enough time on the issue.

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It would seem if I can get it to work. there is something amiss either in your setup, or your internet connection.

You do know Opera can be set to Kiosk mode which limits what you can do. Also, you need to make sure Java and Javascript needs to be turned on.

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There is nothing wrong with my internet connection (& you would think if there were, it might affect other browsers).

Both Java and JavaScript are enabled in Opera. (I can't see how Java is used in the forum software, actually.)

It is not running in Kiosk mode. Nor am I using Opera "Turbo".

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On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 07:38:35PM -0600, Phillip Jones uttered:

Everything sharp and clear on Safari, FireFox, Seamonkey, iCab, OmniWeb.

You left out Camino, which every self respecting MacHead should be using.

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PjonesCET wrote:

Well no. I've never been to the opera. Would regualr glasses custom prescribed for use with compter screens do?

<shrug>I don't know...</shrug> You'd have to ask Opera...

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qu1j0t3 wrote:

My report can sit there, to be ignored or taken seriously. I've spent enough time on the issue.

qu1j0t3: Judging by the track record of the Jive development jivers, my bet is that it's just going to sit there...

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We'll see if their client considers it worth passing on. Pretty sure Jivers wouldn't bother with this backwater

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I tried Camino a long time ago. (my understanding its strictly Java Based) and for me it was slow at the time. Haven't  tried recently though. I'll have to locate it and try it.

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Camino is certainly not Java based. It is a native application that is built around Mozilla Gecko engine.

Since we're already off topic - Phillip, is the reason that you use Opera 10 that other browsers seem "slow" to you? I have noticed that Firefox 3.x and Safari 3.x do not exactly scream on my PowerPC Macs (though Safari 4 appears a bit better so far). Firefox is usually the culprit for excessive CPU usage on my wife's MacBook Pro. And on Linux, Opera 10 seems more responsive and less bloated than Firefox as well. So I'm leaning towards Opera there too.

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It was on topic until someone made comment about Camino first.

My preferred browser of choice is SeaMonkey 1.1.18.

But I keep the others around to test. I have a website and when I add anything I want to make sure it works with all the Major Players. Since I have a Mac I can't use  the latest version of IE. (last one that works is 5.2.3 which I do have. but rarely open because of all the security problems.

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(SeaMonkey uses the same engine as Camino, of course.)

If you have an Intel Mac, then VirtualBox gives you a very easy way of testing with IE. Since Windows makes it difficult to run more than one version of IE at a time, you can set up separate VMs for IE6,7,8. You can also use snapshots to deal with malware and other Windows problems - when it starts to misbehave, just revert to the VirtualBox snapshot.

(If any version of IE had a degree of compliance even close to the open source browsers, this wouldn't waste so much of our time. On the other hand, we can bet Jive tests in IE and this post editor even works there. Sigh.)

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At the time I am resigned to the use of two PPC Mac's

I have just downloaded and installed Camino 1.6.9 and the AdobeForums editing controls show up. If anything they are the clearest and sharpest images of all.


Now I'll have to see it it works in my bank's website.

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qu1j0t3 wrote:

On the other hand, we can bet Jive tests in IE and this post editor even works there. Sigh.

heh

Not sure I wanna take that bet even... Jive's preferred browser seems to be PluginFox.  They might even run a test or two using it before they release.......

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