The first page loaded in a new session of IE8 results in a message at the bottom of the browser screen that says "error on page". The "Next" function is inoperative until the IE8 window is refreshed with F5. This is not a problem with FireFox.
The first page loaded in a new session of IE8 results in a message at the bottom of the browser screen that says "error on page". The "Next" function is inoperative until the IE8 window is refreshed with F5. This is not a problem with FireFox.
Also, many times the "Error" message is accompanied by effects such as this:
Claudio,
I agree. No one who can fix these things seem to be listening.
Just as no meaningful user input was solicited before the change to Jive was decided, they really don't want to hear any complaints.
They have crippled the forums for a reason I do not understand.
Many of these problems were the same problems we were having in the aborted attempt to "improve" the forums almost 3 years ago. They have learned nothing from that debacle.
I would like to know which moron in upper management is responsible for this.
DorothyK@Adobe wrote:
Two suggestions... since we all know that the forums are painfully slow to work in, John and company would be much more inclined to pay more attention to this forum if the vast majority of the posts contained information of immediate relevancy to them. I am more than willing to bet that 3/4ths of the posts in this forum are either chit-chat, rehashing the same ol' stuff we already know, or general complaints, often including insulting language directed at the very people you are looking for answers from. So... if unnecessary conversation was eliminated, and if forum personnel were treated more respectfully, in all likelihood, you would get more interaction from the folks you'd like to hear from more often.
Hey, we've got to have a bit of fun since the forums are such a disaster!
And just remember, you got loads of constructive comments through the trial and after the roll out of this lot. Since nothing noticeable happened in the meantime, and since we got virtually no feedback, it's not surprising that a bit of ragging and cussing goes on.
Respect has to be earned you know.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!! 
DorothyK@Adobe wrote:
I was away at a conference all weekend, and very slowly catching up. It'll still take awhile to get up to the top of the stack, and, really, I'm going to mostly skim over what looks like the same ol' same ol' from the same people who have said it all before. In the process, I may well miss something important... but that's the risk I have to take to get through it all. And John has a lot less time to devote here then I have.
Real shame the conference is over... 
Kath-H wrote:
Just pointing out that Dorothy hasn't been seen around here for a while, as far as I've noticed. I think the message has already been received, that's all.
True. I believe JJ was referring to a post from last month. That was the post that got me thinking and eventually led me to post the Gabdhi quote.
• A customer is the most important visitor on our premises, he is not dependent on us. We are dependent on him.
• He is not an interruption in our work. He is the purpose of it.
• He is not an outsider in our business. He is part of it.
• We are not doing him a favor by serving him. He is doing us a favor by giving us an opportunity to do so.
Employees of any entity, whether in government or in private business, will do well to keep it in mind and at heart.
The recent post by Kathy Nguyen, universally well received here, shows that she knows this principle and puts it into practice.
However, a few Adobe staff and associates seem somehow to think that Adobe's customers are lowly adversaries in some sort of Internet game or in a newsgroup. Those who manifest that misguided and poisonous attitude in this forum and in their blogs are showing their incompetence and their ignorance of basic business principles. To them I say: you're dead wrong! You are far from being our superiors, you are our servants.
They should know well who they are—and we certainly do.
Kanguyen, I don't know if new info is of any use once you have reported the case, but here it goes anyway.
Some IE effects seem to be getting worse. Take this one, for example:
At first, both Original Post buttons went back to their proper places by themselves after the time it took me to read the last message if this was more than a few lines. Now I have seen them remain in their wrong positions after much longer times; for example, when going back several messages in the same page and reading them all. And the effect is not constant. Some times the buttons go inside the last post, while others they may appear several messages upwards. And some times they relocate themselves in a couple of seconds...
kanguyen wrote:
Jive is continuing to work through a resolution for this as of May 6. They've made some progress, but the fix requires a great deal more testing to ensure it's stable. The Jive related product enhancement/bug ID is CS-12987.
Yeah, because it's not a fix, but a hack and guesswork. And testing? hehe.. Come on now, WE are Jive's testers, let's be honest here.
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