Small niggles

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May 15, 2009

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As requested, a thread for annoying little things that we hope can be easily fixed - not the biggies like failing to go back to where you last read, being logged out mid-post, lack of NNTP etc - just niggly little things.

http://forums.adobe.com/message/2007641#2007641

Sorry folks, but word has come down from above that abuse of the point system is counter-productive. There are management types that actually believe some users see points as an incentive to provide a quality answer, and that they wouldn't do so without the points, but that's not a widely held opinion among hosts. Nevertheless, I have to lock the thread, and warn you that at some point there will be official sanctions for those who post threads with the sole purpose of gaming the point system.

"official sanctions"? like what the h@#$ll do they think they can do? you can't lock out people making death threats and you think you're going to f@%k people over for gaming the f@#$ing points system?!!

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME PEOPLE WHO HAVE HELPED ADOBE FOR FREE WITH THEIR TIME AND EXPERTISE FOR YEARS!!!

F**#K YOU!!!

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Small niggles

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May 15, 2009

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As requested, a thread for annoying little things that we hope can be easily fixed - not the biggies like failing to go back to where you last read, being logged out mid-post, lack of NNTP etc - just niggly little things.

http://forums.adobe.com/message/2007641#2007641

Sorry folks, but word has come down from above that abuse of the point system is counter-productive. There are management types that actually believe some users see points as an incentive to provide a quality answer, and that they wouldn't do so without the points, but that's not a widely held opinion among hosts. Nevertheless, I have to lock the thread, and warn you that at some point there will be official sanctions for those who post threads with the sole purpose of gaming the point system.

"official sanctions"? like what the h@#$ll do they think they can do? you can't lock out people making death threats and you think you're going to f@%k people over for gaming the f@#$ing points system?!!

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME PEOPLE WHO HAVE HELPED ADOBE FOR FREE WITH THEIR TIME AND EXPERTISE FOR YEARS!!!

F**#K YOU!!!

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One stupid thing that annoys me:

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I get the mouse over on the gray box area that appears around the 'Forum Comment' (which usually indicates a click can be made). However you cannot actually click unless you put the mouse on the words "Forum Comments" and it becomes underlined.

Being as the site is pretty slow I've click the gray box and sat for a few seconds before realizing that the page isn't moving

Small and stupid, but yes annoying.

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What's this then?  It's in thes thread:  http://forums.adobe.com/thread/419918?tstart=0

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May 16, 2009

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Not seeing it in the thread.

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If your scrolling finger's fit, it appears at post 29.

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John Joslin wrote:

If your scrolling finger's fit, it appears at post 29.

Nope.  I'm not seeing it in post #29.

But that thread is an absolute mess.  At least two users posted kilometer-long crash reports.  The page is so darn long that it taxes any browser.

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John Joslin wrote:

If your scrolling finger's fit, it appears at post 29.

I have seen the black hole in other long threads when scrolling fast or dragging the slider, sometimes much bigger. If you go a bit up and give it a rest, the black hole contracts, and even lets go of the fallen parts. Unlike the abyss.

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I don't know what's that meam

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jannonces wrote:

I don't know what's that mean

What Vacation? I don't know either. I haven't had one in so long. The ones I vaguely remember was the first couple of days were nice but after that second day they were boring.

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Engaged ,
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Mmmm.... Giggles?

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Kath-H wrote on 2009-05-15 16:54:

As requested, a thread for annoying little things that we hope can be easily fixes - not the biggies like failing to go back to where you last read, being logged out mid-post, lack of NNTP etc - just niggly little things.

Email notification:

1. "This message was sent to: Jochem van Dieten" is some garbage text

that should go away.

2. "If you post by replying to this email, be sure to leave the

square-bracketed text at the end of the subject line as it is. This will

help ensure that your message is posted correctly." may have been valid

at some point, but isn't now.

3. "end" even more garbage that should go away.

4. The line of hyphens at to distinguish between content and signature.

We do have a recognized signature delimiter for that: "-- ". If the

system were to use that my email client would recognize the signature

and not include it in the response quote.

5. The system breaks relative paths in messages when messages are

quoted. (I.e. a link to http://forums.adobe.com/message/1965671 will be

reduced to /message/1965671 when quoted enough times.)

Email responses:

6. The removal of quoted text is unreliable. What is worse, it is

undocumented.

7. If I quote one level deep (lines starting with "> ", such as at the

top here) it is shown as a quote in the web interface. If I quote deeper

(lines starting with ">> ") the display in the web interface is messed up.

8. Attachments are only allowed on the original message in a thread.

9. Error messages from the Jive system are unhelpfull, whatever the

real problem is, you will always get an error the address doesn't exist.

Webservices interface:

10. It is impossible to look up a userID based on a username.

11. If I download a thread through the webservices, it isn't counted as

a view of that thread in the web interface.

12. There is no documentation for the HTML that is allowed in messages,

nor for the way it should be escaped.

13. The login API is broken and the workaround we have is needlessly

complicated because the Adobe site doesn't return valid XHTML that can

be parsed by Flex.

Web interface:

Don't know, I try not to use it.

Jochem

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Jochem van Dieten

http://jochem.vandieten.net/

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Engaged ,
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Adding to Jochem's litany about email notifications:

The email clients I'm familiar with will ignore 'Re: ' at the start of a subject line when sorting by subject. That way, a message

and any replies to it - even if their subject lines start with 'Re: Re: Re: ' - will be grouped together. This doesn't happen with

Jive email notifications because the 'Re: ' falls in the /middle/ of the subject line, /after/ the name of the forum. Consequence:

OPs end up at the top and bottom of a subject-sorted list of posts, with responses in the middle. I can think of two easy ways to

put this right:

(a) Put the forum name at the end of the subject line, not at the start;

(b) Drop the 'Re: ' from responses, thus leaving sorting to the time stamp.

Either of these options - quick and dirty fixes - would make it much easier to use email as an NNTP substitute until they get round

to inserting proper reference or In-Reply-To: headers.

--

Noel

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Huge text in topic titles and 'Sticky Topics'. Surely that's a quick fix?

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Yet another addition to the email system.

Email responses:

Subject header should not revert back to the original subject in email

replies.

Currently all email replies have the Subject reverted to the original

Subject regardless of whether the it was changed in the Web interface or

via the email client. This breaks a system that depends on subjects for

"grouping" as a substitution for threading.

--

Mark A. Boyd

Keep-On-Learnin' 🙂

[Edit]

This request has probably been addressed under "Ongoing issues being researched:" in the new FAQ entry, What are some updates as to what is happening in the new forums?

Also. Deleted graphic smiley in sig and replaced with identical emoticon characters sent via the email. My preferred emoticon has no nose, but that gets converted to the image for me anyway.

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Engaged ,
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Kath-H wrote:

As requested, a thread for annoying little things that we hope can be easily fixed - not the biggies like failing to go back to where you last read, being logged out mid-post, lack of NNTP etc - just niggly little things.

Don't be ridiculous... they won't (or can't) fix major issues and you think they're worried about niggles?

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