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Hi.. We just got a Panasonic HC-X1E and was wondering what computer we would need to edit the footage without transcoding? The main thing I am interested in is which CPU we would need.
The specs of the footage from the Panasonic site are:
Recording / Playback Mode
AVCHD | PS 1920x1080 59.94p/50.00p: Average 25Mbps (VBR) PH 1920x1080 59.94i/50.00i/23.98p: Average 21Mbps (VBR) HA 1920x1080 59.94i/50.00i: Average 17Mbps (VBR) HE 1440x1080 59.94i/50.00i: Average 5Mbps (VBR) PM 1280x720 59.94p/50.00p: Average 8Mbps (VBR) SA 720x480/720x576 59.94i/50.00i (SIDE CROP/LETTERBOX/SQUEEZE): Average 9Mbps (VBR) | |
MP4/ MOV | 4K 4096x2160 24.00p 100M: Average 100Mbps (VBR) UHD 3840x2160 59.94p/50.00p 150M: Average 150Mbps (VBR) UHD 3840x2160 29.97p/25.00p/23.98p 100M: Average 100Mbps (VBR) FHD 1920x1080 59.94p/50.00p/29.97p/25.00p/23.98p 200M (ALL-Intra): Average 200Mbps (VBR) FHD 1920x1080 59.94p/50.00p 100M: Average 100Mbps (VBR) FHD 1920x1080 59.94p/50.00p/29.97p/25.00p/23.98p/59.94i/50.00i 50M: Average 50Mbps (VBR) |
Did some googeling and still not really sure. Can someone point me at any recent articles or give me your thoughts.
We are shooting in the 50p/150Mbps setting, but would shooting on maybe a 25p/100Mbps seating help?.
Ben
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Honestly, I think you should eliminate the "no transcoding" rule and use Premiere Pro generated proxies for this type of media.
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This is probably what we are going to have to do but be good to know what type of CPU power we would need if we upgraded out edit suits.
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Hi Ben,
For more suggestions & opinions I have moved your thread to the Hardware Forum.
Thanks,
Kulpreet Singh
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A pretty good answer to most any "What equipment should I buy?" question is: "The best that you can afford."
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"A pretty good answer to most any "What equipment should I buy?" question is: "The best that you can afford.""
Agreed! But the problem is the definition of "best"! That is what keeps this particular forum alive, and kicking.
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Kind of but there is often various price-performance sweet spots. The vibe I get is a dual socket 2015 i7 2.8Ghz desktop can handle it. This is a LOT cheaper than a modern dual core Mac Pro. There is always a price consideration for buying kit for a business, even in creative industries.
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Kind of but there is often various price-performance sweet spots. The vibe I get is a dual socket 2015 i7 2.8Ghz desktop can handle it. This is a LOT cheaper than a modern dual core Mac Pro. There is always a price consideration for buying kit for a business, even in creative industries.
Unfortunately there is no such thing as a dual socket i7, I assume you were talking about dual Xeon processors. IF you would like to see how various CPU's can run Premiere Pro. Take a look at my collection of CPU intensive scores from my newest Premiere Pro BenchMark (PPBM) site and you can roughly make you own trade-off of cost per CPU or CPU pair.
My personal sweet spot is highlighted and it is a single i7 6950X, much less expensive than the few very high end Dual Xeons for CPU intensive processing . An then when you add in the additional expenses of more costly memory and more costly motherboard it even makes it more desirable.
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But the problem is the definition of "best"
The Internet abounds with CPU performance charts. Some tests even use PP.
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OK, I probably asked the wrong question. It should be what processor is likely to work well. I am guessing one of the recent 12 core xeons would do the trick but would a recent i7 6 or 8 core work? Just looking for a few options of CPUs that, given the correct graphics card/HD, should give good performance playing 2/3 streams.
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For any H.264 based media, I recommend using the Proxy workflow. Stick to the included GoPro Cineform presets. This will provide a marked improvement in performance, especially with effects.
And that brings us back to my earlier answers. Read the benchmarks and get the best hardware you can afford.
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What about the DNxHD presets for proxies? I've used the 720p LB 8 bit.
I'm using it for Panasonic GH4 4K 100mbit (which is H.264 if I remember correctly).
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Unless they were added in 2017.1, there are no DNx Proxy presets, which means you'd have to create them. You can, of course, but I do think it's an unnecessary step.
I think the included Cineform presets are all one really needs.
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No, there aren't any DNx proxy presets in the latest version, I created my custom presets by myself in Media Encoder and then I've imported in Premiere.
I was asking that because the second computer I own (laptop) hasn't a powerful CPU, so I was wondering if there was any performance differences in timeline playback between Cineform and DNx.
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I wouldn't expect any noticeable difference.