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Need new GPU after finally upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10

Participant ,
Sep 24, 2023 Sep 24, 2023

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Finally upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10.

It's an HP EliteDesk 800 G1 Tower, with an i7 and 32 GB RAM. The machine should be more than fine for my relatively lightweight needs.

However, Premiere Pro is not happy with the older GPU I have on the machine.


Premiere Pro warning need new GPU with Windows 10 - 2023-09-24_16-34-07.png

After clicking "Continue with known issues..." a simple test by playing a few seconds of a clip on an existing timeline, exporting that few seconds, and playing that export in a video player, all seemed to work fine.
Any idea of how much I'm likely to be okay vs have issues if I continue with the current GPU for a while?

And any suggestions on a new GPU to get that will work with my machine and not cost a king's ransom?

Thanks so much!

 

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LEGEND , Oct 05, 2023 Oct 05, 2023

In this case, then, the Intel graphics is effectively disabled in the Adobe programs. As such, you cannot use QuickSync for hardware decoding of H.264 video because the Intel GPU is obsolete. Therefore, only NVDEC via your GTX 1050 Ti will be available for hardware decoding.

 

By the very same token, if you didn't have a discrete GPU at all, and instead you continued to rely solely on the Intel graphics, then Premiere Pro would have been permanently locked to software-only everything with absolute

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Sep 24, 2023 Sep 24, 2023

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I've moved this from the Premiere Pro forum to the Video Hardware forum.

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Sep 24, 2023 Sep 24, 2023

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To add to my OP, the machine's GPU slot is PCI-3.

 

I have a great relationship with a Team Lead at HP commercial tech support. In fact, on Monday morning we're scheduled to have him remote in and walk me through updating drivers for the machine after my having just upgraded to Windows 10. He will tell me what's "really" likely to work in the machine, rather than my having to rely on a published list of officially tested and approved graphics cards.

 

Even then, I'll obviously still need to rely on the expertise that only this forum can provide. I'll have to have both guide me.

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Sep 24, 2023 Sep 24, 2023

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OMG, I'm so sorry. Been a bit exhausted the past few days. Just realized that the specific messages in that screenshot in the OP say the Intel driver isn't supported which I'm not using anyway and that the current NVIDIA card that I am using is indeed still supported, but won't be with an upcoming release.

 

So, all I had to do for now is turn off Auto Update.

 

That buys me some needed time as I work on funding for the business that will be in soon, which will mean new machines and will probably include a dedicated video editing machine.

Meanwhile, I'm still asking for help here with a suggestion for a new card that is likely to keep Premiere Pro happing for a while even with the upcoming releases.

 

And that's likely to keep Photoshop happy for a while. It's showing me this:

 

Photoshop needs video driver and Direct X updated - 2023-09-24_15-57-05.png

 

And a DirectX diagnostic shows this:

 

Diagnostic shows DirectX 12 installed - 2023-09-24_16-46-52.png

 

Hoping to get some guidance here that, together with the HP tech lead's guidance, enables me to keep using this machine without issues for at least a few more months.

 

Thanks so much!

 

Jay

 

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LEGEND ,
Sep 25, 2023 Sep 25, 2023

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To be precise, you will continue to receive compatibility warnings for the Intel GPU because Intel had completely discontinued all support and updates for that CPU in June 2021. The only way to circumvent that warning would be to completely turn off the Intel GPU in the HP BIOS.

 

As for your choice of a discrete GPU replacement for that PC, I would recommend a GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB card if it's still available. Otherwise, a GeForce RTX 4060 (non-Ti). Anything higher than either of these GPUs would be seriously bottlenecked by your system's CPU.

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Oct 02, 2023 Oct 02, 2023

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Thank you for the advice. The cards you suggested are too demanding on power for my machine, which only has a 320W power supply. The ones you mentioned need much more power than that.

 

I did find a solution, though: GeForce GTX 1050Ti. See the thread in Video Hardware where this was moved to by the mod for the whole discussion.


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At least you'll still be able to update Premiere Pro to the upcoming 24.0 version, which is due out this month, because your system's 4th-Gen i7 supports AVX2 instructions. You'll continue to receive the compatibility warning for the Intel HD Graphics 4600; however, there are no driver updates for it.

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Oct 02, 2023 Oct 02, 2023

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Great. Thanks again.

 

Actually, both Premiere Pro and Photoshop did not bother warning me about the Intel once I put the GTX 1050Ti in and it was happy with that. I guess it only listed the Intel when it was still in need of "anything" it could use.

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In this case, then, the Intel graphics is effectively disabled in the Adobe programs. As such, you cannot use QuickSync for hardware decoding of H.264 video because the Intel GPU is obsolete. Therefore, only NVDEC via your GTX 1050 Ti will be available for hardware decoding.

 

By the very same token, if you didn't have a discrete GPU at all, and instead you continued to rely solely on the Intel graphics, then Premiere Pro would have been permanently locked to software-only everything with absolutely no warning whatsoever.

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