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New Here ,
Mar 02, 2021 Mar 02, 2021

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I know this gets asked a lot, but after buying a new AMD based system to edit 4k video in Premiere Pro, I figured I needed to ask this time. I'm trying to find a real world laptop that will do what I need it to do. I'm not oppossed to going high end, but I'd rather keep it under 2K. Thanks in advance. 

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Mar 03, 2021 Mar 03, 2021

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If you are editing h.264/265 Intel will be the better option. Intel's Quick Sync is supposed to get a revamp and play more variations of h.264. With dedicated hardware for encoding and decoding a quad core Intel laptop could outperform a 24 core Desktop comuuter from AMD but only for h.264/265. Pro Res, BRAW and R3D files would playback better on the AMD desktop. 

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LEGEND ,
Mar 03, 2021 Mar 03, 2021

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Not really. Only the i5, i7 and i9-branded CPUs will be a new architecture in the 11th-Gen line. The i3 and Pentium parts will be stuck in the Comet Lake architecture for the 11th-Gen (in this case, Comet Lake Refresh, which is merely a higher-clocked tweak of the current 10th-Gen CPUs).

 

I know that the OP requests which laptop CPU to get, but the truly new architecture will only be available with six or more cores. The quad-core CPUs, for the most part, will remain stuck with the 10th-Gen and earlier architectures, albeit branded into the 11th-Gen lineup.

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Mar 04, 2021 Mar 04, 2021

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Playback is awful on the AMD, it looks like it's stop motion.

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Mar 03, 2021 Mar 03, 2021

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Moved to the Hardware forum.

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Mar 04, 2021 Mar 04, 2021

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Well as much as Adobe wants to say I was having hardware issues, my BRAND NEW Alienware Area 51 R2 Intel I7 10700 Nvidia RTX 2070 Super and 16 GB RAM are just as slow as my Asus TUF AMD 4800H Nvidia 2060 32 GB RAM that I'm sending back. It took about 14 minutes to export some 4k test footage at 1080P. I'm lost here.

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Mar 04, 2021 Mar 04, 2021

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It's not hardware issues per se. It's your choice of hardware. If anything, the i7-10700 is actually a step backwards in terms of the age of the technology. Its CPU architecture is a tweaked over-and-over-again variant of the Skylake architecture that debuted more than five years ago in the 6th-Gen Intel Core CPUs. Plus, both the 10700 and the 4800H have 8 cores and 16 threads.

 

And Adobe is partly to blame, in this case, because even in the latest public release of Premiere Pro, 14.9, still has a lot of old legacy code remaining. This hamstrung the maximum performance potential of newer systems.

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Mar 04, 2021 Mar 04, 2021

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I'm getting tired of this riddle. I picked out a new computer that meets the optimal specs (granted I'm going to upgrade the RAM asap) and it's being outperformed by my buddies under-speced Acer Nitro 5's.

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Mar 04, 2021 Mar 04, 2021

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And a desktop I7 10700 is a step backwards over an AMD 4800H?

 

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Mar 04, 2021 Mar 04, 2021

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Lesser IPC (Instructions Per Clock cycle).

 

And in the case of that Alienware Area 51m R2, Dell/Alienware had completely disabled the integrated Intel HD Graphics in the laptop's manufacture, meaning that you cannot use Intel QuickSync for either decoding or encoding even if the CPU supports it. Everything video-acceleration-wise must go entirely through the Nvidia GPU (this means decoding and encoding) in that laptop - and then, even the most powerful Nvidia GPU still struggles with high-rez H.264 decoding compared to even a relatively cheapo Intel integrated on-CPU IGP. The discrete Nvidia GPUs, however, fare better when decoding HEVC (H.265) material.

 

The 4800H system struggled even more because its connection to the discrete RTX 2060 uses only eight PCIe 3.0 lanes whereas the Intel CPUs allow the use of all 16 PCIe 3.0 lanes to the GPU.

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Well then I guess the Alienware is going back. What laptop will edit Premiere Pro the best?

 

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