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Recommendations for Optimum Hard drive setup

Community Beginner ,
Jan 21, 2018 Jan 21, 2018

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Hi Guys,
I'm using a VERY old editing system ( 6 years old! )
Time for update and i figured if i but as well as the last time i will get another long time out of it.
Below is my spec, if you see something that is a waste of money ( in terms of performance v something else when using premiere pro ) tell me.
I want to future proof for 4K+ video editing .

But my main question is about the hard drive setup.
Does PCI-E offer any advantage over the other M.2 drives ?
Is it still best practice to keep the media cache and export drives separate from the OS and Media drive or could i cut down on the necessary drives?
I'm not sure if that was only for the older HDD drives?
See my notes is Red

Thanks in advance.

Ronan


Overclocked AMD Threadripper 1950X 16 Core (3.4GHz @ up to 4.0GHz)

Motherboard

ASUS® ROG ZENITH EXTREME (DDR4, 6Gb/s, CrossFireX/SLI) - RGB Ready!

Memory (RAM)

64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (4 x 16GB)

Graphics Card

11GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE GTX 1080 Ti - DVI, HDMI, DP

1st Hard Disk

4TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 128MB CACHE  ( Media Storage - Also backed up x 3 external drives )

M.2 SSD Drive

512GB SAMSUNG 960 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 2100MB/W) ( Export Files to this drive )

2nd M.2 SSD Drive

1TB SAMSUNG PM961 M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3000MB/R, 1700MB/W) ( Work in progress: Footage to be edited off this drive )

3rd M.2 SSD Drive

512GB SAMSUNG 960 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 2100MB/W) ( System Drive )

1st PCI-E SSD Drive

280GB INTEL® OPTANE 900P PCIe SSD (up to 2400MB/sR | 2000MB/sW) ( Media Cache on this drive )

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24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM

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11GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE GTX 1080 Ti - DVI, HDMI, DP

1st Hard Disk

4TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 128MB CACHE

M.2 SSD Drive

512GB SAMSUNG 960 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 2100MB/W)

2nd M.2 SSD Drive

1TB SAMSUNG PM961 M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3000MB/R, 1700MB/W)

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512GB SAMSUNG 960 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 2100MB/W)

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280GB INTEL® OPTANE 900P PCIe SSD (up to 2400MB/sR | 2000MB/sW)

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EK-TIM ECTOTHERM THERMAL COMPOUND

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ASUS STRIX Soar 7.1 PCIe sound card

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Community Beginner , Jan 21, 2018 Jan 21, 2018

Thanks Bill,
My only thinking with the 280GB Intel Optane was that it could be well suited to a cache drive with such good speeds.
Plus it was allowing me 1 extra super fast drive .
( Thanks for pointing out the fact i can actually only fit 2 M2 drives, that was an error on my part, I'm not sure why the system wasn't flagged for error with that in mind. I just checked on https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gMbjjc  too, so they must allow for the adapter automatically )

I like the idea of using the ada

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LEGEND ,
Jan 21, 2018 Jan 21, 2018

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You show 3 each M.2 drives, my literature shows only two motherboard M.2 connectors.

You ask the difference between m.2 and PCie basically none, but when you expand that to an Intel Optane there isa difference.  The Intel SSD is design for high I/O operation like databases.  Samsung has competition now days to compete a new SZ 985  Why did you want the 280 GB Intel Optane?  It is not cost effective for that price you can get a Samsung 960 Pro 512 GB m.2 with its much better sequential performance all you have to do is buy a $30 adapter to plug it into directly into the PCIe bus.See my X99 motherboard running 4 of those superspeed M.2 SSD's.

You can easiy cut the SSD drives.  While I ran the 4 M.2 system for testing it is not really necessary and as a matter of fact using a M.2 PCIE  for OS/Applications is wasting it value.  For that I have found a SATA III SSD a good choice.

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Thanks Bill,
My only thinking with the 280GB Intel Optane was that it could be well suited to a cache drive with such good speeds.
Plus it was allowing me 1 extra super fast drive .
( Thanks for pointing out the fact i can actually only fit 2 M2 drives, that was an error on my part, I'm not sure why the system wasn't flagged for error with that in mind. I just checked on https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gMbjjc  too, so they must allow for the adapter automatically )

I like the idea of using the adapter to make use of the PCI-E slot.

So would this be a better approach for the drives , or what would drives would you cut down / set up differently?

1st Hard Disk

250GB Samsung 850 2.5" EVO SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 520MB/sW) ( System Drive )

2nd Hard Disk

4TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 128MB CACHE ( Media Storage - Also backed up x 3 external drives )

  1. A.    M.2 SSD Drive

512GB SAMSUNG 960 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 2100MB/W) ( Export Files to this drive )

2nd M.2 SSD Drive

1TB SAMSUNG PM961 M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3000MB/R, 1700MB/W) ( Work in progress: Footage to be edited off this drive )

3rd M.2 SSD Drive

512GB SAMSUNG 960 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 2100MB/W) ( Media Cache on this drive ) * { 3rd M2 drive to use an adapter so it can plug into the PCI-E slot )


Thanks for your input, I want to make sure i measure twice and only cut once with this investment .
Ronan

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LEGEND ,
Jan 22, 2018 Jan 22, 2018

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A lot depends on the size of your projects unless you have hundred+ assets

As far as having a separate drive just for exports might be convent organizationally but looking at Puget's study it does not improve performance.

Export to H.264
  1. Use an SSD for the projects drive (platter is ~7% slower)
  2. Faster or separate project and export drive do not improve performance
Export to DnXHD HQ & DnXHR HQ
  1. Use an SSD for the Projects drive (platter is 13-24% slower)
  2. Faster or separate project and export drive do not improve performance

Here is Puget Systems very well tested summary of Storage for Premiere Pro, see the link above for the details.

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Jan 23, 2018 Jan 23, 2018

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Thanks very much Bill.
Ronan

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