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New Here ,
Apr 17, 2020 Apr 17, 2020

Hi, I'm going to buy computer with Ryzen 3 2200G or better, for ex. Ryzen 5 3400G. Will Adobe Premiere 2020 work without discrete graphics? I want to try it without buying discrete graphics to try working without built-in graphics. Will it work or I should set up discrete graphics, something like RX 550 4GB? Would be nice to save some money if Adobe Premiere will work without discrete graphics using G core of Ryzen.

Help please, thank you! 
Sam

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Community Expert ,
Apr 17, 2020 Apr 17, 2020

If you dont have a discrete card you will not have MPE hardware.

If will be set to MPE software which can be a pain when editing; you will have to render all the time.

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New Here ,
Apr 17, 2020 Apr 17, 2020

Hi, thank you for your answer. So, it is better to have any decent 4 GB discrete videocart than ryzen 3 ххххG, right?

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LEGEND ,
Apr 17, 2020 Apr 17, 2020

Here's the problem:

 

Not only you might not have any GPU acceleration for rendering or exporting (since the Vega 8 or Vega 11 is practically useless for GPU acceleration), but no AMD CPU supports Intel's QuickSync (the hardware H.264/H.265 encoder and decoder that is the only hardware encoder that's currently officially supported in Premiere Pro), which only those Intel CPUs with built-in integrated UHD or Iris graphics have.

 

Worse, you will have an excruciatingly frustrating time trying to work with 4k video content, especially at 59.94 or higher fps. In the Puget Systems' list of results (which is growing as more runs of the benchmark are posted on the site), a Ryzen 3 3200G with 16 GB of RAM and only an integrated Vega 8 GPU scored the absolute worst overall performance result (averaging a Standard overall score of only 36) of all PCs that had been reported on the site since the end of last month (when the database was started), except for an 11-year-old Intel i7-860 PC with only 8 GB of RAM and a discrete Radeon HD 5800 series GPU (which scored only 15). A decent entry-level PC should score within the 300-ish to 400-ish range in that same test.

 

And why would you choose an APU if you're going to add a discrete GPU down the road? That completely defeats the purpose of an APU to begin with, and would result in you paying as much money as or more than if you had chosen a more powerful CPU with more cores and threads and does not have integrated graphics. And after upgrading such an APU-based PC, your new system would have still performed slower and weaker than if you had spent your money more wisely on components to begin with.

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New Here ,
Apr 17, 2020 Apr 17, 2020

Hi, thank you a lot for this comprehensive answer! Could you tell me more about this please: ''but no AMD CPU supports Intel's QuickSync''. Does it mean that it is not possible to use encoder of Adobe on AMD and I should buy Intel anyways if I want to work with encoder to convert 4K into smaller format? 

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LEGEND ,
Apr 17, 2020 Apr 17, 2020

You will not have hardware encoding at all with currently available versions of Premiere Pro if you are running an AMD CPU. All encoding will be software only (or CPU only) - but then, you will be at the mercy of the CPU portion of the APU, which even in its R5 3400G form is still weaker than a 4-year-old 6th-Generation Intel i7 quad-core CPU.

 

A beta 14.2 version of Premiere Pro, which is available to Creative Cloud subscribers via the "Beta Apps" section of the Creative Cloud desktop app, will support both Nvidia's NVENC and AMD's VCE in addition to Intel's QuickSync. However, in the case of Nvidia's and AMD's encoders, a discrete Nvidia or AMD GPU is required; integrated AMD APUs' graphics section may not support VCE while NVENC is restricted to Nvidia discrete GPUs.

 

Hope this helps.

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New Here ,
Apr 17, 2020 Apr 17, 2020
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this helps a lot, thank you! As far as I understood from your words I can use encoder to convert my videos into smaller format, right? So, I can start to work with 4K using even Intel Core i3-8100, right?

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Community Expert ,
Apr 17, 2020 Apr 17, 2020

I've moved this to the Video hardware forum.

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