Resolve uses the GPU for decoding

LEGEND ,
Dec 15, 2018 Dec 15, 2018

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The playback engine needs some love from Adobe asap.

Resolve uses the GPU for decoding and offers significantly better H.264 playback performance over Adobe software.

Even that needs proxies at 4K.

Proxies are the solution for H.264 media.  Accept that gentleman, and you can get to work.

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Guide ,
Dec 15, 2018 Dec 15, 2018

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Yes Resolve needs a monster GPU to function even with 1080 footage. I don't like it at all. Its far from being a fully fledged NLE. Everything including Fusion effects need the gpu. Not very nice if you are on an older piece of hardware. As a grading piece of software its outstanding but Adobe has done a stunning job of creating a NLE with grading capability and effects use yet people complain.

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LEGEND ,
Dec 15, 2018 Dec 15, 2018

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[Resolve is] far from being a fully fledged NLE.

I disagree.  BMD has made significant strides bringing the Edit page up to par with Premiere Pro.

Whereas Adobe is laughably behind the curve with Lumetri for color work.

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Guide ,
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Jim while I, to an extent agree on BMD making inroads into the NLE market sector I find Resolve Studio too GPU intensive. Scrubbing a simple 2K piece of footage is a chore, Grading is superb as it was designed for colouring. They slapped on code to make it a NLE and then added more code to give it Fusion effects. As a NLE its clunky and fairly annoying to use. If theres any company that deserves a pat on the back its Avid and Media Composer. Its held its own for years as the NLE of choice for features but as can be seen Adobe has very intelligently brought Premiere Pro into the Pro spotlight from the shadows it used to lurk in and frowned upon by the likes of Avid and Final Cut. PP is no longer seen as "cheap" alternative to serious NLE's.

You must also remember that Adobe is dealing with a dozen or more apps, not just a single NLE. I can only imagine the infrastructure needed to create and support all of them For this I applaud Adobe. Show me another company that has managed this many pro apps under one roof. The Foundry and Autodesk comes close but they tend to be a little more specialised and don't have as many apps.

Photoshop : Industry leading

InDesign : Industry leading

Illustrator: Industry leading

Acrobat: the standard for all pdf's

AE : up there with the best and set the bar from day 1. In a node based workflow world Adobe has chosen, and chosen very wisely in my opinion to leave this layer based.

So while many are quick to criticise the bugs in PP etc with CC2019 they need to factor in what happens behind closed doors. I do however agree that software should be THOROUGHLY tested before launch and PP was not ready for public consumption,.

I trust you understand where I am coming from and hope you don't look at any of this as a personal attack on your comment

Mo

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LEGEND ,
Dec 16, 2018 Dec 16, 2018

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As a NLE its clunky and fairly annoying to use.

That's a very subjective view.  There are editors who really love Avid.  I find it rather annoying.  Moving from over a decade with Premiere Pro to DaVinci Resolve, I really like the editing experience.  I'm actually enjoying the process again and having fun doing it.  Editing is no longer the chore it came to be for me.

Now that could be because of the software itself, it's feature set, capabilities and workflow.  Or maybe it's just because Resolve is still relatively new for me.

Speaking for the former explanation is my distaste for the Avid experience, which is also relatively new.  I find Avid rather clunky in comparison to both Premiere Pro and Resolve.

Like I said, subjective.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Dec 16, 2018 Dec 16, 2018

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Fascinating the comments about enjoying editing in Resolve. I've done so e of course but still am so much more familiar with PrPro that it's kinda slow for me yet.

Doesn't give me any advantage with the media I mostly use either. But with a PCC4k coming to my door sometime that might change of course. BlackMagic always fixing their stuff to ruin better on their stuff of course ..  😉

What are you enjoying most over there?

Neil

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LEGEND ,
Dec 17, 2018 Dec 17, 2018

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What are you enjoying most over there?

I love having proper access to the RAW controls for CinemaDNG.  That makes a huge difference, and is the primary reason I had to switch.

I also love that I have the equivalent of Prelude, Premiere Pro, After Effects, SpeedGrade, Audition and Adobe Media Encoder all in one program.  I love that I can move from Edit, to Effects, to Color to Audio to Export near instantaneously with the playhead on the same frame every time, and it just works!

I much prefer node-based color corrections over layers.  It think it offers more power and flexibility.

Finally, there are a host of little features in Resolve that Premiere Pro doesn't have yet.  Timeline Animations, for example.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Dec 17, 2018 Dec 17, 2018

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Prelude? Huh ... gonna have to figure that one out. Although I suppose R. does have more file handling stuff. An app designed to bring in media from NLE's in large projects had to have that.

The RAW stuff ... whether CinemaDNG or other is definitely a plus for R ... biggie for any one working that media!

And Mooney's decision to drop SpeedGrade rather than rebuild ... right as clearly BlackMagic was aiming to match ... was, and still is to me, one of the more shortsighted decisions in a long time. Yea, moving from different parts for us one-man shop types is a boost. But many editors I've talked with of course ​never​ leave their NLE.

Nodes ... that's an intriguing discussion. I know some fx guys who use a range of apps, and some are node and some like Ae aren't ... and they HATE node-based work. Others of course go nodes work for some things, layers better for others. The one feature of nodes I'd like to see in the Adobe apps is an ability to link layers the way you can link nodes. You could mostly do that in SpeedGrade's layers, tying masks say across several layers. THAT was spiffy. and would save a lot of work in Lumetri.

Still ... what about just editing a sequence? I'm not so thrilled with editing in Resolve itself yet ...

Neil

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LEGEND ,
Dec 18, 2018 Dec 18, 2018

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Still ... what about just editing a sequence?

I love it, man.  Like I said, I'm enjoying the work again.  I look forward to it, and will go out and shoot some family stuff if I don't have any paid projects to edit.  Or I'll go back to an old project done in PP and redo it in Resolve.  I think BMD now have a fully workable NLE in Resolve.

I do a yearly project every summer, and this year I cut it in Resolve.  It went smoother and faster than doing the same work in PP.

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Advisor ,
Dec 17, 2018 Dec 17, 2018

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As an aside, is there an easy way in Resolve to change a single stereo track to two mono tracks for all clips like in Pr where in a bin I can highlight all clips and modify them so the audio becomes two mono tracks instead of one stereo track? (This is done because the clips were recorded using two different microphone). I searched the Resolve forum and got no proper information. Since you seem to know much about Resolve and Pr, I thought I might as well ask you directly. Thanks.

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LEGEND ,
Dec 18, 2018 Dec 18, 2018

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I can highlight all clips and modify them so the audio becomes two mono tracks

In Resolve, the Clip Attributes option in the Right Click menu will allow this.

I do it myself on every project, changing the four mono tracks of the Zoom F4 to read as two stereo tracks.

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Dec 18, 2018 Dec 18, 2018

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In Resolve, the Clip Attributes option in the Right Click menu will allow this

Tried that. But will only make one mono track from the stereo, not two mono tracks. Mono to stereo works fine, but 1 stereo track to two mono does not. The reference to two tracks is greyed out. Also, can only do one clip at a time.

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LEGEND ,
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I can only say stereo to mono works fine for me.  You're better off asking in the Resolve forums for continued support.

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