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‎May 14, 2025
08:35 PM
DELETE This appeared to be a new thread when I responded, but its from 2017, so I delete my response.
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‎May 02, 2025
09:14 PM
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@MyerPj I think this is a solid lead - hopefully the engineering team can figure out its cause and correct it.... I was almost starting to think I was crazy for thinking it was working fine before. @Dani_V. recommendation was the turning point for finding the cause and a work around for now... but what a strange thing to even have happened - seems like it would be easy to avoid a frame rate mismatch. I hope they can duplicate and debug it, as I cant imagine this one file type and workflow is the only one negatively effect.
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‎May 02, 2025
08:54 PM
@Dani_V. So, I think you just figured it out..... I checked with Media Info, and it reports both the source and proxy files as 60 FPS; When I look at the interprete footage it shows the source as 59.9736 as the frame rate from file; I forced the footage to be interpreted at 60 FPS in PP, created new proxy files from that interpreted at 60 FPS footage to match what Media Info reported as the FPS; THIS NOW PLAYS BACK FLAWLESS. I checked with Media Info and both the source and the proxy also report as 60 FPS; Interprete footage remains forced to 60 FPS, to match what media info displays; Now it plays back flawless! I watched the GPU and CPU utilization, there is NO drop to zero percent utilization in any way, not even a hickup. It seems that PP is detecting this footage at the 59.9xxx FPS, and if it created a proxy based on that FPS it doesn't play proper. Idon'tt know what other media types or special conditions need to occur for this to present, but with the foot filed with the iphone 16 pro, it for sure presents in this way, and the override corrects it to work proper. I hope you can make sense of where the bug might be, or duplicate it yourself now.
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‎May 02, 2025
08:23 PM
1 Upvote
@MyerPj the proxy watermark is there for this test to make sure it was using the proxy file... I use the ProRes HQ because I move tons of footage between things like Topaz etc, and it tends to keep the color shift etc very simular and easier correction. I was very surpised to see the recomendation to use h.264 proxy - I was surpised to even see it in the list of options to be honest. I was not having issues with the playback prior to this last upgrade, 3090 support for the codex aside, what ever PP was doing was working, and playing back without issues. I will be getting a 5090 as soon as its available, but its impossible (I ony want a FE version, and in Canada only one place sells it, and it seems they are never available online or in store, but people are scalpign them for $2000 extra. I'm not goign to play that extra for principle as I belive the scaricty / issue is the product is not making it to the shelf for normal people to buy before someone buys it to sell on ebay. As for frame rate, It might be lost in the wall of text in this thread but if I manual make the proxy with Media Encoder, and play it on the timeline the file plays fine on the time line. Thats with the full 422HQ file! If I attach it as a proxy, the file stops playing and gets jittery. So, to me, the system IS (and always was) capable of playign back a 422HQ file, without the 3090... its only when its attached as a PROXY and proxy playback is enabled with litteral the same file that it gets jittery/stops playing back. Second thign that I see is the GPU is modertly busy, but aftera 5 ish seconds, maybe a bit longer the GPU utilization drops to zero at the same time as the playback issues (which only present when in proxy playback mode) occur. All the ways I have tested it, link back to proxy playback, the 3090 not decoding is a distraction as the file plays back perfectly fine when its not playing in proxy mode enabled.... I belive, something has changed with how PP is manging proxy playback, or the latest windows 11 Pro for Workstation, or Nvidia Studio driver (Which has been more buggy recently) interactions have degarded playback in proxy mode - which doesnt even make sense because it should effect all playback of the same file in the same way... which is why I come back to the software code to playback in proxy mode is degrading playback - and thats where there is a bug. Hopefuly soon I find a 5090, and I can bypass this issue - but I suspect it will be 3 or 6 more months before stock is available, so I was hoping to get workable performance (like before) in the mean time.
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‎Apr 22, 2025
09:27 AM
@Dani_V. I understand completely what you are saying about different sources etc.... What I hope you are taking away from my postings is: 1) The same media file (exact same I uploaded for you to test with) WILL NOT play smooth when you create a proxy by right clicking, and "create proxy" in the prores format. 2) When I take the exact same file, and create a proxy using the settings of 422HQ from MEDIA ENCODER manually, with a color space of HLG also, those files when attached as a proxy to the media on the timeline ALSO do not play back smooth. 3) When I put the proxy file created manually from media encoder 422HQ HLG on the timeline, it will play smooth as butter on the timeline when there is no proxy, or playback proxy is disabled. 4) When I take the manually created Proxy file, and attach the same file to it as a proxy, and turn on proxy playback, then then it will play smooth with the proxy playback disabled, but as soon as I turn on proxy playback, the file plays back jittery. Basically, the same file in 422HQ (literally the same file) playback differently/jittery on the same timeline, same project, same sequence, depending on if its played as a proxy file proper or just a clip on the sequence. When playing back in proxy playback mode, the GPU starts to show utilization on the 3D metric, when the play back starts to jitter and freeze, ALL GPU activity stops dead. If I restart playback, GPU activity resumes, until it starts to jitter exactly in the same manner. While I fully understand the nature and formatting of media can exhibit the same symptoms, what I am seeing is the exact same media presents differently based on being played back as "proxy" or native on the time line. When when you attach the same proxy encoded media file to itself, it doesn't play back smooth when played in proxy playback mode. It is because of this behavior that I feel it points to the pipeline being used to preload/retrieve, and playback proxy media is somehow different. Maybe the playback engine is not exactly the same, maybe its actually reading and decoding both the proxy and the native clip on the time line, but only presenting to the viewer the proxy (double up the work but only show the proxy workload) as example. I'm not 100% sure exactly why it is broken, I can only present on the symptoms, and speculate on the why. This is why this issue is disturbing to me. it should not be like this.
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‎Apr 21, 2025
04:12 PM
@Dani_V. I have been reflecting further on your points; I am not 100% convinced what you said is in fact the issue, but I do agree your comments are factually correct about the encoder support on the 3090 also. for example I have used 422 in my experiments (check the prev posts) Format :ProRess Format version : Version 0 Format profile : 422 HQ They play just fine, I believe I made those proxiess with Media encoder settings vs prem pro settings if memory serves me correct. While it might be 100% true that the GPU doesn't have HW support for 422 proxy format, it has in fact been playing that format fine in the past, and even in this current version depending on exactly how one creates the proxy file itself. Bottom line, I cant shake the feeling there is a major under the hood change on how your handling the proxy encoding (and swapping out the playing of the proxy) in these latest versions, and my gut says it has everything to do with what settings/parameters are being passed to media encoder to create the proxy and/or how prem pro handled the pointer to which file to play when proxy playback is enabled.. I created a new proxy using media encoders settings (See inspector below) and its a 422HQ proxy, and it plays perfectly fine when on the timeline NOT being used as a proxy, even at 3x speed, no jitters! When I manually attach the file as a proxy, the same file that plays without issue on the timeline native, now plays jittery when its an attached proxy! This doesn'tt make sense to me. If it plays perfectly fine native on the time line, and the same file plays jittery when its an attached proxy - that feels like a problem with the way PP is handling proxy playback itself. The Settings preset I used from Media Encoder (which was not available in the 'create proxy' dialog within premier is as follows: The inspector for the proxy file created is as follows (The only thing I changed was the color space from 709 ->HLGG to preserve that, as the settings default assumes arec7099): General Complete name : H:\Working on\Proxy Jitter Test Project\Proxies\20250418_185838000iOSS_proxymovv Format :MPEGG-4 Format profile :QuickTimee Codecc ID : qt 2005.03 (qt ) File size : 8.08GiBB Duration : 41 s 550 ms Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 1 671 Mb/s Frame rate : 60.000 FPS Encoded date : 2025-04-21 23:04:44UTCC Tagged date : 2025-04-21 23:05:32UTCC Writing library : AppleQuickTimee TIMM : 00:00:00:00 TSCC : 60000 TSZZ : 1001 Video ID : 1 Format :ProRess Format version : Version 0 Format profile : 422 HQ Codecc ID :apchh Duration : 41 s 550 ms Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 1 670 Mb/s Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 60.000 FPS Color space :YUVV Chromasubsamplingg : 4:2:2 Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 3.355 Stream size : 8.08GiBB (100%) Writing library :adb00 Language : English Encoded date : 2025-04-21 23:04:44UTCC Tagged date : 2025-04-21 23:04:44UTCC Color primaries :BTT.2020 Transfer characteristics :HLGG Matrix coefficients :BTT.2020 non-constant Audio ID : 2 Format :PCMM Format settings : Little / Signed Codecc ID :sowtt Duration : 41 s 550 ms Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 1 536kbb/s Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel layout : L R Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Bit depth : 16 bits Stream size : 7.61MiBB (0%) Language : English Encoded date : 2025-04-21 23:04:44UTCC Tagged date : 2025-04-21 23:04:44UTCC Other ID : 3 Type : Time code Format :QuickTimeeTCC Duration : 41 s 550 ms Frame rate : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS Time code of first frame : 00:00:00:00 Time code of last frame : 00:00:41:27 Time code, stripped : Yes Language : English Encoded date : 2025-04-21 23:04:44UTCC Tagged date : 2025-04-21 23:04:44UTCC QUESTION: Why can the encoded files from media encoder in what I think is the same prores 3840x21600 HLG 60FPS work perfectly fine when played native from the timeline (inside the same project), but not when the file is attached as a proxy and proxy playback is enabled?
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‎Apr 21, 2025
09:27 AM
1 Upvote
Thanks for the feedback; I fidn this odd as it was working just fine in prev versions. I am trying to avoid the use of H264 / high compression while editing so that I can play the files back at 2x and higher when doing a quick quick. In the past, I have been able to play the proxy files without issue. Somethign has changed, and maybe its been prior to version 25.1 even in terms of hoe these proxys are handled. Do you hve any better advice to allow me to create a proxy in 420 but also not compressed so I can play back snappy and at 2x speed when needed? I am waiting ona 5090 GPU, and plan to upgrade anyways, but its so hard to find one right now... sounds liek the GOU upgradfe will for sure solve the issue that is good news at least. Thanks
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‎Apr 19, 2025
11:03 AM
Neil; I do in fact start a sequence by either selecting all the HLG clips, and create new from selection or drop of them on the timeline. I will see if I can adapt to create the Sequence first, and then drop the clips on the timeline (or setup a template for new projects). I prefer to create a seq from selection, but I will try it the other way - A default setting in preferences should not be a big deal to add (and maybe a confirmation dialog to click ok on). I will also try your suggestion of the lumetri panel settings tab also and see how that flows for me too. Great tips, thank you!
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‎Apr 19, 2025
10:21 AM
Is there any way to set the default new sequence settings in PP25.2.1? For example; on this sequence dialog, I would like the output to ALWAYS be Rec709, and working Space Also to be REC709, regardless of the media type on the timeline. In my case I have lots of HLG footage I put on the time line, but need everything to be REC709 out. Currently, I change it every time I create a new sequence, but would really like to have a default; As a side note, I wish they would mark the timeline visibly so you can see what it is is (for output color space and working color mode) so you don't have to edit the seq settings to confirm; it doesn't even seem to appear as metadata options for sequences in the project window either.
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‎Apr 18, 2025
05:35 PM
Another data point for you, I used a different video file, encododed at 30 fps; it plays fine, and also plays fine when you create a Proxy file for it; here is the source file media info details (The Proxy File media info is pasted below this source file: SOURCE: General Complete name : H:\Working on\Proxy Jitter Test Project\The Alien The Military.mp4 Format : MPEG-4 Format profile : Base Media / Version 2 Codec ID : mp42 (mp42/mp41) File size : 33.6 GiB Duration : 1 h 31 min Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 52.7 Mb/s Frame rate : 29.970 FPS Encoded date : 2023-10-01 00:12:04 UTC Tagged date : 2023-10-01 00:17:13 UTC TIM : 00:00:00:00 TSC : 30000 TSZ : 1001 Video ID : 1 Format : HEVC Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Format profile : Main@L5.2@Main Codec ID : hvc1 Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Duration : 1 h 31 min Bit rate : 52.4 Mb/s Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.211 Stream size : 33.4 GiB (99%) Writing library : HEVC Coding Language : English Encoded date : 2023-10-01 00:12:04 UTC Tagged date : 2023-10-01 00:12:04 UTC Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Codec configuration box : hvcC Audio ID : 2 Format : AAC LC Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity Codec ID : mp4a-40-2 Duration : 1 h 31 min Source duration : 1 h 31 min Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 317 kb/s Maximum bit rate : 518 kb/s Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel layout : L R Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF) Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 207 MiB (1%) Source stream size : 207 MiB (1%) Language : English Encoded date : 2023-10-01 00:12:04 UTC Tagged date : 2023-10-01 00:12:04 UTC PROXY FILE CREATED BY PP 25.2.1 General Complete name : H:\Working on\Proxy Jitter Test Project\Proxies\The Alien The Military_Proxy.mov Format : MPEG-4 Format profile : QuickTime Codec ID : qt 2005.03 (qt ) File size : 59.5 GiB Duration : 1 h 31 min Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 93.3 Mb/s Frame rate : 29.970 FPS Encoded date : 2025-04-18 23:28:36 UTC Tagged date : 2025-04-19 00:10:38 UTC Writing library : Apple QuickTime TIM : 00:00:00:00 TSC : 30000 TSZ : 1001 Video ID : 1 Format : ProRes Format version : Version 0 Format profile : 422 Proxy Codec ID : apco Duration : 1 h 31 min Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 91.7 Mb/s Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2 Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.369 Stream size : 58.5 GiB (98%) Writing library : adb0 Language : English Encoded date : 2025-04-18 23:28:36 UTC Tagged date : 2025-04-18 23:28:36 UTC Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Audio ID : 2 Format : PCM Format settings : Little / Signed Codec ID : sowt Duration : 1 h 31 min Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 1 536 kb/s Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel layout : L R Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Bit depth : 16 bits Stream size : 1 003 MiB (2%) Language : English Encoded date : 2025-04-18 23:28:36 UTC Tagged date : 2025-04-18 23:28:36 UTC Other ID : 3 Type : Time code Format : QuickTime TC Duration : 1 h 31 min Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS Time code of first frame : 00:00:00:00 Time code of last frame : 01:31:10:15 Time code, stripped : Yes Language : English Encoded date : 2025-04-18 23:28:36 UTC Tagged date : 2025-04-18 23:28:36 UTC
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‎Apr 18, 2025
02:03 PM
If I did it all correct, it should be available: https://f.io/GLz4pbPQ Let me knwo if you have issues retrieving it; I uploaded the sample, the proxys that were created, project file, and the video / screen capture showing the issue when proxy is turned on. Thanks
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‎Apr 18, 2025
12:38 PM
I an for sure share the files. I made a sample file and project just now, and ran the tests again after upgrading the Nvidia Studio Driver to Version: 576.02 April 16 2025 How do I sahre the project files with you and source media? I also used my phone to record the premier pro app showing the play back issues.... If you advise how to share it with you, I can can do that for you ASAP;
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‎Apr 09, 2025
05:26 PM
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adding another data point. I took the source files, and ran them through Media Encoder to create full ProRes files (422HQ): General Complete name : H:\Xmas 2024\RE PROCSSED\20241225_162944000_iOS_1.mov Format : MPEG-4 Format profile : QuickTime Codec ID : qt 2005.03 (qt ) File size : 11.1 GiB Duration : 58 s 191 ms Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 1 639 Mb/s Frame rate : 59.940 FPS Encoded date : 2025-04-09 22:13:37 UTC Tagged date : 2025-04-09 22:14:30 UTC Writing library : Apple QuickTime TIM : 00:00:00:00 TSC : 60000 TSZ : 1001 Video ID : 1 Format : ProRes Format version : Version 0 Format profile : 422 HQ Codec ID : apch Duration : 58 s 191 ms Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 1 637 Mb/s Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2 Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 3.293 Stream size : 11.1 GiB (100%) Writing library : adb0 Language : English Encoded date : 2025-04-09 22:13:37 UTC Tagged date : 2025-04-09 22:13:37 UTC Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Audio ID : 2 Format : PCM Format settings : Little / Signed Codec ID : sowt Duration : 58 s 191 ms Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 1 536 kb/s Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel layout : L R Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Bit depth : 16 bits Stream size : 10.7 MiB (0%) Language : English Encoded date : 2025-04-09 22:13:37 UTC Tagged date : 2025-04-09 22:13:37 UTC Other ID : 3 Type : Time code Format : QuickTime TC Duration : 58 s 191 ms Frame rate : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS Time code of first frame : 00:00:00:00 Time code of last frame : 00:00:58:07 Time code, stripped : Yes Language : English Encoded date : 2025-04-09 22:13:37 UTC Tagged date : 2025-04-09 22:13:37 UTC This file plays perfect/smooth in the timeline, CPU usage climbs to 60%, but at full res it plays perfect! I have then went back to create proxy's for the Prores 422HQ files, and played them back (here is the file details): General Complete name : H:\Xmas 2024\RE PROCSSED\Proxies\20241225_162944000_iOS_1_Proxy.mov Format : MPEG-4 Format profile : QuickTime Codec ID : qt 2005.03 (qt ) File size : 1.57 GiB Duration : 58 s 191 ms Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 232 Mb/s Frame rate : 59.940 FPS Encoded date : 2025-04-09 23:18:15 UTC Tagged date : 2025-04-09 23:19:32 UTC Writing library : Apple QuickTime TIM : 00:00:00:00 TSC : 60000 TSZ : 1001 Video ID : 1 Format : ProRes Format version : Version 0 Format profile : 422 Proxy Codec ID : apco Duration : 58 s 191 ms Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 230 Mb/s Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2 Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.463 Stream size : 1.56 GiB (99%) Writing library : adb0 Language : English Encoded date : 2025-04-09 23:18:15 UTC Tagged date : 2025-04-09 23:18:15 UTC Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Audio ID : 2 Format : PCM Format settings : Little / Signed Codec ID : sowt Duration : 58 s 191 ms Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 1 536 kb/s Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel layout : L R Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Bit depth : 16 bits Stream size : 10.7 MiB (1%) Language : English Encoded date : 2025-04-09 23:18:15 UTC Tagged date : 2025-04-09 23:18:15 UTC Other ID : 3 Type : Time code Format : QuickTime TC Duration : 58 s 191 ms Frame rate : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS Time code of first frame : 00:00:00:00 Time code of last frame : 00:00:58:07 Time code, stripped : Yes Language : English Encoded date : 2025-04-09 23:18:15 UTC Tagged date : 2025-04-09 23:18:15 UTC The result was VERY interesting. The proxy files generated from the new source ProRes files also work perfect, no playback performance issues. Additionaly, I can play the timeline with no stutters or timeline freezing WHILE media encoder is still processing Proxy files in the background. CPU usage is at 68% in this condition but everything runs perfectly fine with the prores proxy files generated from the prores files that media encoder created the the H265 files. As a side note, when I tried to rewrap the source file, Media Encoder failed and said the file was not compatible. When I manual selected the Prores version it worked. Despite the file name beign different that the prev sampel I provided, these are all from the same project/source/encoding - I played the same section fo the project and jumped round to test, I was just beign lazy to find the exact media played in premier so tookt he first one in the list. (all 33 clips used in the project show the same issue and act the same way).
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‎Apr 09, 2025
01:57 PM
@Dani_V. thanks for the response. The source video as per media info is as follows: General Complete name : H:\Xmas 2024\20241225_170449000_iOS.MOV Format : MPEG-4 Format profile : QuickTime Codec ID : qt 0000.00 (qt ) File size : 1.11 GiB Duration : 2 min 39 s Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 59.9 Mb/s Frame rate : 59.940 FPS Recorded date : 2024-12-25T10:04:49-0700 Encoded date : 2024-12-25 17:04:49 UTC Tagged date : 2024-12-25 17:07:29 UTC Writing library : Apple QuickTime Writing operating system : Apple iOS 18.2 Writing hardware : Apple iPhone 16 Pro com.apple.quicktime.location.accuracy.ho : 15.006167 com.apple.quicktime.full-frame-rate-play : 1 com.apple.quicktime.location.ISO6709 : +50.8434-113.9995+1047.986/ Video ID : 1 Format : HEVC Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Format profile : Main@L5.1@High Codec ID : hvc1 Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Duration : 2 min 39 s Bit rate : 59.6 Mb/s Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Variable Frame rate : 59.940 (59940/1000) FPS Minimum frame rate : 30.000 FPS Maximum frame rate : 66.667 FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.120 Stream size : 1.11 GiB (99%) Title : Core Media Video Writing library : HEVC Encoded date : 2024-12-25 17:04:49 UTC Tagged date : 2024-12-25 17:07:29 UTC Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Metas : 3,4,5 Codec configuration box : hvcC Audio ID : 2 Format : AAC LC Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity Codec ID : mp4a-40-2 Duration : 2 min 39 s Source duration : 2 min 39 s Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 68.8 kb/s Channel(s) : 1 channel Channel layout : M Sampling rate : 44.1 kHz Frame rate : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF) Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 1.31 MiB (0%) Source stream size : 1.31 MiB (0%) Title : Core Media Audio Encoded date : 2024-12-25 17:04:49 UTC Tagged date : 2024-12-25 17:07:29 UTC Other #1 ID : 3 Type : meta Format : mebx Codec ID : mebx Duration : 2 min 39 s Bit rate mode : Constant Title : Core Media Metadata Encoded date : 2024-12-25 17:04:49 UTC Tagged date : 2024-12-25 17:07:29 UTC Other #2 ID : 4 Type : meta Format : mebx Codec ID : mebx Duration : 2 min 39 s Source duration : 2 min 39 s Bit rate mode : Variable Stream size : 1.06 MiB Source stream size : 1.06 MiB Title : Core Media Metadata Encoded date : 2024-12-25 17:04:49 UTC Tagged date : 2024-12-25 17:07:29 UTC Other #3 ID : 5 Type : meta Format : mebx Codec ID : mebx Duration : 2 min 39 s Bit rate mode : Variable Title : Core Media Metadata Encoded date : 2024-12-25 17:04:49 UTC Tagged date : 2024-12-25 17:07:29 UTC Other #4 ID : 6 Type : meta Format : mebx Codec ID : mebx Duration : 2 min 39 s Bit rate mode : Constant Title : Core Media Metadata Encoded date : 2024-12-25 17:04:49 UTC Tagged date : 2024-12-25 17:07:29 UTC The Proxy format: General Complete name : H:\Xmas 2024\Proxies\20241225_170449000_iOS_Proxy.mov Format : MPEG-4 Format profile : QuickTime Codec ID : qt 2005.03 (qt ) File size : 6.58 GiB Duration : 2 min 39 s Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 354 Mb/s Frame rate : 59.940 FPS Encoded date : 2025-04-08 22:34:23 UTC Tagged date : 2025-04-08 22:36:32 UTC Writing library : Apple QuickTime TIM : 00:00:00:00 TSC : 60000 TSZ : 1001 Video ID : 1 Format : ProRes Format version : Version 0 Format profile : 422 Proxy Codec ID : apco Duration : 2 min 39 s Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 354 Mb/s Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2 Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.711 Stream size : 6.56 GiB (100%) Writing library : adb0 Language : English Encoded date : 2025-04-08 22:34:23 UTC Tagged date : 2025-04-08 22:34:23 UTC Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Audio ID : 2 Format : PCM Format settings : Little / Signed Codec ID : sowt Duration : 2 min 39 s Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 705.6 kb/s Channel(s) : 1 channel Channel layout : M Sampling rate : 44.1 kHz Bit depth : 16 bits Stream size : 13.4 MiB (0%) Language : English Encoded date : 2025-04-08 22:34:23 UTC Tagged date : 2025-04-08 22:34:23 UTC Other ID : 3 Type : Time code Format : QuickTime TC Duration : 2 min 39 s Frame rate : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS Time code of first frame : 00:00:00:00 Time code of last frame : 00:02:39:17 Time code, stripped : Yes Language : English Encoded date : 2025-04-08 22:34:23 UTC Tagged date : 2025-04-08 22:34:23 UTC I dont have any formats to try - I pretty much only have H265/H265 videos to work with. The issue described curren happens if playing from the Proxy or the source. It happens with and without the "high quality playback" set. It happens with "full" all the way down to "1/8" res playback. I have used this exact workflow, with video recorded with this exact iPhone many times without issue until 25.2.1 update (I never had a chance to try 25.2.0). Hardware acceleration is on; I have turned off and tested the HW acceleration. I ran it with the proxy file first, it takes about twice as long before the video freezes frames. However, if I turn off the proxy, and use the source file, it so far plays for at least 10x longer and still no symptons of frame feezes. There is a an occasion imperfection in the playback but near flawless playback. SSD utilization apepars to at 2% during playback. CPU usage increases about 10% with HW acceleration off but hovers around 25% on this machine. Oddly, turning it off has better visual perfomance - but I dont think this machine and GPU (RTX3090) should have to have this turned off.
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‎Apr 08, 2025
04:31 PM
1 Upvote
I have been having issues with the timeline in PP, in version 25.2.1, I have rendered proxy files for some h265 iPhone SDR footage. the clips will plat for about 2 min or so, and then the program monitor starts to stutter and within a few seconds of that it stops playing completely. I have been monitoring the Taskmanager, and when this happens the GPU resources got o zero. There is no crash, a wait a couple of seconds, hit play, and it will play the video fine again for another 2 min. This happens with the proxy turned either on or off (its watermarked also). This GPU utlization screen shot shows exactly the where the program monitor stops responding and freezes the video frame, this one is playing the H265 Iphone footage. The drop off you see in the resource monitor on the GPU is exactly where the program monitor stops updating, and freezes on one of the video frames. (this is with Proxy ON) All the drives as Samsung NVMe. Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10980XE CPU @ 3.00GHz 3.00 GHz Installed RAM 128 GB (128 GB usable) System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor Operating system, is separate from all the adobe products and video files, they are all loaded from local NVMe, NOT loading off a NAS. This system has NEVER had an issues playing back proxy files, or any other video file I have ever used, and this is 100% new behavior with my first project after upgrading to 25.2.1 I have been letting it run when the video starts to stutter, and the utilization graph below shows whats been happening. The Audio continues to play perfect, but the video stutters, and freezes, then starts up again, just liek this utilization graph for the GPU shows I have done the basics, like cache clearing etc. Any thoughts or others experience this?
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‎Apr 07, 2025
07:17 PM
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did you try Neils tip, whcih worked or other "That would happen when you don't have the Source and Track target options set on the timeline header block. Look that up." its marked as the correct answer for this thread. Also, 25.2.1 release update came out today, I cant find a change log for it, but try the update and the fix Neil provided.
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‎Apr 05, 2025
02:35 PM
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Glad I could help - and we have all be there in that panic mode - we each get our turn with the panic, and a chance to help someone solve something like this. So glad it worked out for you and your back to working on your project.
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‎Apr 05, 2025
02:32 PM
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Neil good catch! I have not run into that for years, didnt even think of it! You solved it.
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‎Apr 04, 2025
09:30 PM
Ok, what I had tested, is not what you just described, but I tried it just now; I also make the assume when you say "preview window" you mean Source, If so, I tried with in and out points, and dragged to an empty time line, and it properly created the sequence, and added the clip with the in and out points; (as a side note, I found the 'fist' you were talking about, never noticed it before) For kicks; I tried doing the same thing from the program window, it it doesn't do anything (it was never designed to work from the program window). You might be having a MAC version specific issue, and someone with a MAC will need to look at this to see if they have the same issue. for the record, you can use the get property feature pictured here to get more info on the media file as that might lead to some insight, the tets file I used is listed here: It might be relevant, but are the clips your working with error free / encoded with something you can trust? it might be worth trying to run them through media encoder and making a new file out of them to remove the chance there is some sort corruption in the video file itself that you could maybe bypass by re encoding it with Media encoder to a different container/format/bit rate? maybe worth a try....
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‎Apr 04, 2025
08:47 PM
I ran a small test, created a project, saved, exited PP; Renamed the Folder; restarted the project and got the following Screen: Clicked Locate: opened the folder I renamed, and clicked search and got this dialog: after locating the one file, it found the remainign ones on its own (All files were in the same folder); after the progress bar, projected loaded with no issues I keep all my cache data on a seperate drive (not next to media) if that matters... The feature still seems to work on the 25.2 version of PP that came out yesterday on windows 11 24H2 build 26100.3624
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‎Apr 04, 2025
08:39 PM
Locate media has always worked in the past if your only moving/renaming the root folder for everything. Sounds like your pretty experienced with PP at some level from how you point out the locate media tool, and its attempt to use it to solve the reconnection issues. a few things to consider, I cant tell how big that program / timeline is from the screen grab - I will say, I have had this issue once with a big program, that was a 6 hour version, with lots of cuts etc - it took a few min for all the media to relink after I pointed it - meaning, it foudn the file, but the thumb nails, and other metadata used to display the timeline itself would not show until PP completed some sort of background process rebuilding I assume cache files, and all that sort of stuff. It was an older version of PP, so not sure if that behaves the same in the latest version or not, but if you could confirm how long you waited after location attempt for the time line to display? Also, after locating, did it find the files or not? did you change ONLY the folder name, and file names remained the same? A suggestion, dont have search your entire drive, point it specificaly to the folder you renamed, as It seems you very clearly knwo where its located and what its called.
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‎Apr 04, 2025
08:30 PM
There is a potentialy much easier way to do this, without using software, and avoids all the complciations of old software versions. I use a Composite/RGB/S-Video device to capture directly to SD card. It is painless, press place, record the video. It does a decent job of deinterlace also. It best of all it doesnt tie up your expensive editing machine. Ann and others provided some good advice on this topic for you already, but thought maybe the option of this hardware based capture to SD card would be somethignt to consider Lots of options, but here is one for your referance: Portta VHS to Digital Converter, Video to Digital Recorder with Remote, RCA to HDMI Converter Compatible with VHS, VCR, DVR, DVD, Hi8, Mini DV, Camcorder, Cassette Tape, Gaming Consoles : Amazon.ca: Electronics
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‎Apr 04, 2025
08:20 PM
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I was poking around, and it doesn't look like you can turn off the feature. Preferences have a place for "AI Models" but it doesn't have toggles, looks to be just a info screen; It doesn't even look like you can remove the icon itself like you can for the icons under the program window....
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‎Apr 04, 2025
08:15 PM
Can you provide a bit more info, I am not sure exactly what your trying to do... I have, however, tried to drag a clip from file explorer onto the timeline, and PP imported the video, and created a new sequence with the clip I dragged on to it... I have also dragged a clip from the project window, to a blank timeline window, and a sequence was created for me. I am using Windows 11 Pro for Workstations and RTX 3090 - I cant tell from your post what OS your using (maybe a mac as I don't ever recall seeing a 'fist' in windows 11 before. Basically, I think we will need more info from you to assist, such as your OS, GPU, Software Versions (OS/video), and what format the video is (MPG/MOV/RED) etc.... then you might have a chance at some additional assistance with the question.
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‎Apr 02, 2025
03:24 PM
New version:
Premiere Pro feature summary (April 2025 release)
The 25.2 release of Premiere Pro features Generative Extend, media intelligence and Search panel, and easy captions translation.
Generative Extend
The Generative Extend tool, powered by Adobe Firefly, lets editors add those extra few frames to tell their story their way. Just click and drag to seamlessly add a few more frames to the beginning or end of a video or audio clip – to hold on to a character reaction for an extra beat, create a smoother transition, extend background sounds, or hide an unwanted camera movement. Learn more as you begin your generative AI journey in Premiere Pro.
Generative Extend will create additional frames and insert them into your sequence.
Note: You might encounter an error stating that support is limited to 1280x720 and 1920x1080 resolutions when using 4K or vertical clips. To resolve this issue, please restart Premiere Pro. We're aware of this issue and will release a fix shortly.
Media intelligence and Search panel
Search for your perfect shot using everyday language based on imagery, spoken words, or content with embedded metadata like shoot date, location, or camera type, all at the same time.
Media intelligence visual search works by analyzing your footage using on-device models, and when you search for visuals, the description you type is analyzed and compared to your footage to find the best matches.
Learn more about using AI-powered media intelligence and the new Search panel to locate your ideal shot quickly.
A. Media Search. B. Search window.
Translate captions
Now automatically translate captions generated in Premiere Pro or imported via caption sidecar files (like .srt) to improve the accessibility and reach of your content.
You can quickly translate captions using Speech to Text and customize them as needed to ensure accuracy and clarity.
A. Translate through the Translate captions icon B. Translate caption through the More menu C. Translate captions through the context menu.
Improved color management
Color management in Premiere Pro has been radically improved, making it easier to use wide-gamut camera raw and log-encoded media, simpler to output to multiple formats, and faster to achieve great color.
This new color management system supports RAW and log formats from nearly every camera. It automatically transforms your raw and log media to the color space of your choice with high-fidelity tone mapping, enabling higher-quality image processing, improved video monitoring, and better sequence export.
New color management in Premiere Pro also allows users to use a wide gamut working color space in three of our new color management "wide gamut" presets for even better-looking results.
Added support for import of MKV (H.264/AAC) files
Completely rewritten support for MKV (H.264/AAC) files to improve compatibility and performance, allowing for seamless playback and editing of MKV files in Premiere Pro.
Add Content Credentials into exported video files
Content Credentials allow creators to attach extra information to their content when they export or download it. By including this information, creators can receive more recognition for their work, connect with others online, and enhance transparency for their audience. To learn more about Content Credentials and why you should consider including them with your work, read the Content Credentials overview.
Dynamic audio waveforms
Audio waveforms reflect the adjustments to volume on clips in Premiere Pro. Enabled by default, they can be toggled on and off by selecting View > Dynamic Audio Waveforms.
Audio waveforms reflect the adjustments on clips.
Hardware acceleration for Canon Cinema RAW Light
Hardware acceleration of the Canon Cinema RAW Light format is now available in Premiere Pro, After Effects, and Adobe Media Encoder for Apple silicon computers. It will significantly improve editing and transcoding performance when using Cinema RAW Light files with smooth playback on the timeline and 10x faster export performance.
Support for ARRIRAW SDK 8.3.1
Support for ARRI ALEXA 265 camera and importing ARRIRAW files recorded using custom Color Management.
New and updated sample media
The new sample media, a collection of video clips pre-loaded with Premiere Pro, has been added and updated.
You can now find these new sample media in the Import mode, streamlining the workflow for video editors. The updated library not only offers fresh content but also enhances the learning experience for new users, who can explore how different clips can be utilized in storytelling and editing techniques.
Get help and provide feedback quicker
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Fixed issues
We have been working hard at making Premiere Pro even better. Here are the important fixes, performance improvements, and more.
Mod note: Branched and. moved to the main announcement post. Edited for content.
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‎Mar 23, 2025
10:58 AM
1 Upvote
Is there/will be there be support for multi streams of encoding/decoding to align with with hardware support from blackwell encoders also? (aka decode 2 or 3 streams at the same time)
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‎Jan 29, 2025
08:43 PM
1 Upvote
if you do happen to have a few bucks, and want something significantly automatic, you can try the borisFX Matt Assist ML for above. works pretty well; Animated AI Masks in Mocha Pro 2025 - Object Brush & Matte Assist ML [Boris FX] Because you used a green screen, but with not perfect enough lighting, this tool should do an amazing job against the 'greenish' background, but it also works without a green screen to. Something to consider
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‎Jan 17, 2025
01:19 PM
I would be happy if only they allowed multiple jobs to be processed at the same time - meaning GPU affinity to a project plus the ability for additional project to be processed at the same time, with affinity to another discrete GPU. To avoid being fancy trying to use multiple encoders to process the same project, I would settle for this GPU affinity method.
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‎Jan 14, 2025
07:25 PM
Kevin, everyone knows who you are! but thank you for the introduction and the feedback. I look forward to the feedback, I hoep there is a way for permiere and Media Encoder to use all the hardware available and get work done faster. I have some work which is basicaly a simpel color grade, and minor tweaks to in/out points, an occasion stabilize or blur face and plates (Thank you Boris for the lastest updates in this area). It woule benifit me if I can get 100% utilization accoss multiple encoder and decoders, in an ideal world 100% would be applied to the single process being rendered, but if only one encoder can be used at a time, it would be nice for ME to spin up the second project and start processing that too as these projects for me are often only 1 video layer deep, I have plenty of RAM/DiskIO and CPU to process the other effects, but the encode one at a time I feel could be improved. I feel that in an ideal world, have PP and ME able to understand and schedule resources to get to the faster render per project would be ideal for everyone, but a 'poor mans' win would the ability to process a work stream for each encoder one has.
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‎Jan 14, 2025
07:19 PM
Thanks @RjL190365 what you say makes sense (I think). In my case, the RTX 5090 has 2 encoders for encode and two for decode (maybe it it was 3?). Since these encoders are all the same, and on the same GPU, and this GPU is the primary display - If I think I read your response correct, this will allow all the encoders to be used. while in Adobe premier. The question had a slight twist to it, that I may not have been clear on, so I will attempt to refine the question here, you have answered a significant portion of what I was lookign for, so thank you that. The outstanding question would then be, if I were to sent two projects to Media Encoder (ME), it would process each project one at a time, and it seems to be only able to support one project rendering at the same time. In theory for the ENCODE portion, if there was multiple tracks of video that needed decoding, apply the info you mentioned abobe, ME would decode multiple streams when/if applicable. However, would ME be able to starty processing a second project, and use the second endoder to process both encodes at the same time (assume you had no other bottle necks this should allow the jobs to complete faster than one at a time I hope). I hope I was able to be more percise in my question. I welcome any clarifying questions if needed.
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