Move Captions to the bottom of the screen

[Jim5C97]

It would be useful to be able to move the captions all the way to the bottom of the screen.

[minwoop89918135]

... You can

[Jim5C97]

From my testing, the captions will not go all the way to the bottom of the screen. They will only go so far and stop. Am I missing something? Thanks

[shandries]

Agreed. I had to create a “hack” to move the captions all the way to the bottom.

[Jim5C97]

Shane, what's the hack that you are using. I'd like to give it a try.

[shandries]

The solve for me was to create a nest of my full sequence, and then toggle off all tracks except for captions. Then, paste back the other content and you can use "effects control" to adjust the nested clip (which contains the captions). You’re essentially nesting the captions so you can move them out of the captions track and onto a regular track so you can make use of the effects controls.

[Stan Jones]

Francis, an override option (toggle with default to on = safe limits and option for off = no restrictions on x/y positioning) would address the behavior most users expect, but with the control that some users want.

The problem would be less significant if caption tracks were subject to Effect Controls. In versions prior to PR 15, some users got around this limitation by using Effect Controls. And there are other requests that address various limitations of the new caption workflow that are due to a caption track not being subject to Effect Controls. But the new workflow should really address these without resorting to Effect Controls for workarounds.

See this post that elaborated on Shane Andries method below using nesting to provide for some of that functionality.
https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro/faq-workaround-nesting-to-apply-effect-controls-to-capti...

[Jrm125]

YES YES YES

This is first and foremost, a creation tool. We all use it for different workflows. Safe margins are not necessary in every workflow, and the inability to override them makes it unusable for some.

An override would be perfect. Just let us put it anywhere we want.

[shandries]

Yes, an option to defeat the restriction would definitely be useful, as many clients are delivering content online where the safe margins don't always apply. I have one client who wants their captions to be along a grey bar at the bottom.

[rienq]

Please remove the safe margins in captions. There is a safe margin overlay. We can use that to check if needed.
Also better to have pixelposition rather than percentage.
Safe margin is getting a little old skool, once designed for the television tubes. Who does still use that?
In the Netherlands the broadcasters always require the bottom of all subtitles to be somewhere between safe title and safe action area.

[Jim5C97]

Please remove this restriction. As others have stated, we all have different workflows and final content needs. Lots of clients want subtitles at the bottom of the screen. Additionally, the user should be able to decide what is "safe" and not have that restriction imposed on us. It would also be nice if the background "bar" went all the way across the screen, regardless of amount of text.

[Peter_McC]

I would at least like to have the caption background extend to the bottom and sides. The style of captions I sometimes need to use has a bottom screen section in plain colour with caption text over it. I realise that there are workarounds to get this, but simply removing the unnecessary restriction would make it easier.

[artistic_Songbird50BB]

Yes, please take off the training wheels! I can’t think of another creative tool you offer that is so heavily restricted by your prescribed idea of what it should be used for. Please let is decide where captions should be and how many layers there are. We’re big kids, we can handle the responsibility.

[bobc44356221]

Always give the professional user the option, they know what's best for their project. (Don't be Apple)

[Russ Lickteig]

Yes...please give us full control of the Captions location. Our client has strict guidelines on location, character length, and two lines of captions when possible. We need to be able to set some defaults for these things when we select the "Create Captions" button. Thanks!

[defaultfsdct99wu6v1]

Hey, could you please change this feature for us to have full control over it (without the 10% margin)

thank you, we really need it.

[bobc44356221]

Also, what about being able to covert finished edited CC to text layers?

[medabrim5F8E]

This is a must. please remove this restriction. anyone with a little experience will know to keep the captions within the safe margins when needed but in many other cases we need the ability to customize captions as much as possible. currently this is a deal breaker for me.

[defaultwwl9vtm9u0u9]

This needs to change. Very unprofessional to impose this limitation without any further explanation.

If it was related to compatibility with other software that was necessary to have the captions function properly, I would understand - it would not be Adobe's decision. But this is just embarrassing.

[bobc44356221]

I would also love to be use all the editing tools to be also used for CC. As of now just a few will work.

[Serena...]

This sort of thing should definitely be optional, give the freedom to position it with no limits as the default, but have the option to set the restriction as a guideline if the user wishes (And give options for what percentage to make the safe margins too, possibly?)

[Prototype]

The other issue is alignment. If you position subtitles at the bottom, when you have subs that are 1 line rather than 2 lines, they aren't centered properly. Ideally I'd use the central alignment and then position down the page, but it won't allow me to move it that far.

[Prototype]

Perhaps remove and have a guide margin?

[Jim5C97]

Francis, Thank you for explaining the reason behind this restriction.
Even though there are only 20 or so comments in this thread, the "flavor" or the responses seems clear. This restriction should be removed. It seems safe to assume that all of us who use the captions feature would like this removed, even those who have not seen this thread. I was disappointed that today's update did not correct this even though a listed feature update was "Captions workflow refinements".

[Dan j Francis]

Please remove the restrictions.. Here is a quick overview graphic I made up of "why".
(P.S.. For creatives, there should never, EVER be restrictions, that kills creativity. Guides, etc., to stay "in the rules" when needed are fine, but finite restrictions are a big no no in design.)

[boondock]

I won't repeat all the current justifications, only that I support removing the restriction. Most professionals know when their titles need to be within safe margins and can determine where those are on their own.