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Copy/paste pattern fill keeps pasting object with former pattern not new pattern

Community Beginner ,
Jun 18, 2021 Jun 18, 2021

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Since a few days I seem to have a problem when I want to copy and paste and object filled with a pattern.

 

First I make a pattern swatch of a blue and white dot. Then I make a few colour variations of that same dot and make different pattern swatches for each. This is all fine.

 

I fill my shape with the blue and white dot, copy paste it and change the pattern fill to one of the other patterns I have just created using the swatches. Works fine still.

 

Then if I copy and paste the object with the new pattern it will paste the object filled with the old blue and white dot and not with the new pattern. That's where it goes wrong!!! What is going on??? It never used to do that.

 

This happens in the same document and in a new one - so the pattern swatch is already there, besides that it shouldn't matter because it used to automatically paste the new pattern in the pattern swatches if it ws a new document. 

 

I don't use spot colours, so that is not the problem! I change the colours of the existing pattern and make a new pattern swatch, I've been doing this for years, but it seems like the new swatch isn't working properly now. I'm looking for a solution not a run around.

 

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Adobe Community Professional , Jun 27, 2021 Jun 27, 2021
I reported it here, where Illustrator engineering is looking for bugs: https://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447-illustrator-desktop-bugs/suggestions/43713711-pattern-swatches-behave-unexpectedly-in-25-3-1 Please add your vote and relevant details

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Adobe Employee , Aug 03, 2021 Aug 03, 2021
Hi all,  We have tried to address this issue in our latest release v25.4.1. Please update Illustrator to the latest version to get this fixed. For more details, please refer to this UserVoice page ( https://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447-illustrator-desktop-bugs/suggestions/43713711-pattern-swatches-behave-unexpectedly-in-25-3-1 ) Please feel free to reach out if you still need assistance, we'd be hapy to help.  Regards, Srishti

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Jun 28, 2021 Jun 28, 2021

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日本語版のv25.3.1では,パターンやシンボルの名前がデフォルトのままだと問題が発生します。
また,「ドット」「ドット コピー」「ドット コピー 2」(あるいは,「ドット」「ドット 2」「ドット 3」)のように複製したままの名前にしておいても問題が発生します。
日本語版では,「コピー」や数字の前のスペースを削除したり,まったく別の名前にするなど,名前に手を加えることで回避できました。

 

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In the Japanese version of v25.3.1, the problem occurs if the names of the patterns and symbols are left as default.
The problem also occurs if you leave the names as they are duplicated, such as "dot", "dot copy", "dot copy 2" (or "dot", "dot 2", "dot 3").
In the Japanese version, you could get around this by modifying the name, such as removing the "copy" and the space before the number, or by using a completely different name.

katayanagi, JPN

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Jun 17, 2021 Jun 17, 2021

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I made the attached pattern that I cannot scale, nor change. When I drag it out of the swatches, it looks partly black. Does anyone know what causes this? Also problem with scaling objects. Your answer/help is appreciated very much.Schermafbeelding 2021-06-17 om 18.40.47.png

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jun 17, 2021 Jun 17, 2021

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Is it a vector pattern or is it an image (or does it contan images)?

 

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Jun 17, 2021 Jun 17, 2021

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It is a vector pattern and does not contain images.i have this problem with several documents. Mostly complexer patterns. 

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Jun 17, 2021 Jun 17, 2021

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Scaling the pattern when an object is filled with it is done with the option Transform Patterns checked in the Scale tool dialog.

Or with the Transform Pattern only checked in the Transform panel. And there is an option Transform Pattern Tiles in the Preferences.

Changing the pattern should be possible by double clicking the pattern swatch in the Swatches panel.

 

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New Here ,
Jun 18, 2021 Jun 18, 2021

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Thank you so much for your answer. But I tried all the things I usually do, but I keep having this problem with turning some parts of the pattern in swatches to black. Very strange.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jun 18, 2021 Jun 18, 2021

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Hard to tell without seeing the file.

Can you share an example .ai  file?

CC file sharing, Dropbox, Google, WeTransfer... 

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Jun 18, 2021 Jun 18, 2021

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Schermafbeelding 2021-06-17 om 18.40.47.png

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New Here ,
Jun 18, 2021 Jun 18, 2021

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I think, hope, that you can see it now.

 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jun 18, 2021 Jun 18, 2021

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I can see it, but to find what is causing it, I would like to have a look at the Illustrator file.

Can you share an example .ai  file?

CC file sharing, Dropbox, Google, WeTransfer... 

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New Here ,
Jun 27, 2021 Jun 27, 2021

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New Illustrator 25.3.1 when copying anything with a pattern in the pattern changes colour. I work on garment design and usually do one half first copy and flip for the other side but colour keeps changing?

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Jun 27, 2021 Jun 27, 2021

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Can you show some example screendumps?

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Jun 27, 2021 Jun 27, 2021

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The orange mesh pattern when copied changes to pink which is a colour from my palette

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jun 27, 2021 Jun 27, 2021

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Do you have a pattern with that color? Same pattern and color variations in the Swatches panel?

There were some posts recently about patterns changing to another one when copied and pasted.

Going back to 25.2.3 seems to have solved that for some.

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New Here ,
Jun 27, 2021 Jun 27, 2021

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Hi, No I don't have that same pattern in a different colour in my swatch panel but have that colour in my panel if that makes sense? Weird how when I copy it , it changes to a colour within my palette. I did think it would be easier to just go back to  25.2.3 I may do that as need to crack on as I freelance and haven't the time to waste.

I contacted support but was 2 hours waiting with someone saying please allow me a minute more, was very frustrating.

Thanks for your help most appreciated

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Jun 27, 2021 Jun 27, 2021

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I reported it here, where Illustrator engineering is looking for bugs:

https://illustrator.uservoice.com/forums/601447-illustrator-desktop-bugs/suggestions/43713711-patter...

Please add your vote and relevant details

 

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 29, 2021 Jun 29, 2021

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Hi!

Somehow since last update Illustrator would not let me drag and drop or copy and paste objects with patterns or pantone filling into new file with taking filling along. Filling in new file is just black. Help?

 

IP1.JPGIP2.JPG

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Jun 29, 2021 Jun 29, 2021

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are the different-colored patterns added as separate swatches, or they are the only swatch with different colorization?

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 29, 2021 Jun 29, 2021

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3 separate swatches

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Jun 29, 2021 Jun 29, 2021

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could you please share an Appearance panel for each couple of objects?

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 29, 2021 Jun 29, 2021

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Sure:

original File:

IP3.JPG

 

new file:

IP4.JPG

 

thanks for your time btw!

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Jun 29, 2021 Jun 29, 2021

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Thank you. 
Yes, it looks strange.

Could you also share a working file (maybe with only one couple of objects) with the full Swatches panel (I mean, with all 3 patterns)?
As far as I can see, the copy/pasting changed both fill and stroke, so I would like to try to repeat the effect.

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Jun 29, 2021 Jun 29, 2021

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The problem occured after last update. It´s not only this simple pattern/ swatch. I work with many patterns on a daily basis and this unfortunately is an enoying problem.

Would be great if you can find something and it turns out that I´m just stupid 🙂

... stupid that I cannot upload .ai to this message

attached pdf is editable with Illustrator

 

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Jun 29, 2021 Jun 29, 2021

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ok, thanks

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Jun 29, 2021 Jun 29, 2021

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I have exactly the same problem. Also if I copy from illustrator to photoshop, the 3 patterns in photoshop changes also to 1 pattern.

 

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