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Illustrator Changing CMYK Values

Community Beginner ,
May 28, 2020 May 28, 2020

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So I'm setting up artwork for t-shirt separations. I have to use absolute CMYK values to print the separartions accurately, i.e. 100% Black, 50% Yellow, 25% Cyan to match the halftones and color combinations I need to make out spot ink colors.

The issue I'm having is converting an object to my CMYK tones. It is a complex object, made with several layers and a gradient mesh. I set one color to 100% Cyan, and it changes to 69% Cyan and 14% Yellow the next time I check it. From 100%Magenta and 100% Black, it goes to 57, 75, 68, 82.

I am using the "Recolor Artwork" tool.

I have changed my Document Set Up to CMYK and have tried copying it into a completely new document already set to CMYK. Typing in the values or selecting them from the swatches has no effect.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
May 28, 2020 May 28, 2020

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How is your color management setup?

Illustrator only changes CMYK values when you convert between differen color profiles, RGB > CMYK, but also CMYK > CMYK.

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Community Beginner ,
May 28, 2020 May 28, 2020

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Here are my color settings. I don't ever change them and rarely have this problem. Most times I can fix it by creating a new file or restarting illustrator, but this file is being stubborn.Capture.PNG

 

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New Here ,
Nov 24, 2021 Nov 24, 2021

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Hello Ton,

I am having the same problem. Have checked my color management setup (CMYK) my color profile, all seems fine. I click on a color box, put in my CMYK codes, save, close, and when I reopen it, slight variations have occurred! I have done this multiple times. How can I permanently embed this color profile into the file? It seems quite crazy that such a professional platform is changing the colors at whim, when this is such precise work. I'd love to know what I could do to keep all intact, and not keep switching before sending to printers?? Thanks so much for any help! Cheers

 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Nov 24, 2021 Nov 24, 2021

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Can you create a new topic? This topic has started about recolor artwork and creating spot colors from process colors. So unless you have the same problem...

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Adobe Community Professional ,
May 28, 2020 May 28, 2020

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You can check at the bottom of your file if the color profile of your document is the same as in your Color Settings.

And try to turn on warnings for Profile Mismatches.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
May 28, 2020 May 28, 2020

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So the file's color mode is CMYK?

I don't understand why you need to convert objects to CMYK.

 

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Community Beginner ,
May 29, 2020 May 29, 2020

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The artwork was created in full color to send proofs to the customer. Once it is done and I have to print separations for the screenprinter, I have to convert the full color into absolute CMYK values like this:

Dark Brown-100% Cyan

White- 100% Magenta

Light Brown- 100% Yellow

My screen printer uses spot ink colors instead of Process Colors when he prints.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
May 29, 2020 May 29, 2020

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I wonder why you did not use spot colors to start with?

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Community Beginner ,
May 29, 2020 May 29, 2020

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Because that is not how we have our separation process set up, nor is it the point. I am just trying to change my colors and they are not staying the same values that I set them to.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
May 29, 2020 May 29, 2020

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I still wonder if there is a difference between the Document Color Profile of your stubborn document an the CMYK profile of your Color Settings.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
May 29, 2020 May 29, 2020

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scottsbluffs,

 

What happens if you choose Emulate Adobe Illustrator 6.0 in the Color Settings>Settings dropdown, instead of North American General Purpose 2?

 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
May 29, 2020 May 29, 2020

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Choosing "Emulate Illustrator 6" isn't a solution.

 

If the values keep changing after opening the file, then it's caused by bad settings in color management. But in those settings (as in screenshot above) I can't see why that conversion should happen. The Secure CMYK workflow is already turned on and profiles get ignored.

 

It might be an error with the file or maybe Illustrator is not working correctly.

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New Here ,
May 17, 2021 May 17, 2021

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Hey Scott are you still having this problem? I am wondering if you found a solution?

 

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New Here ,
Oct 27, 2021 Oct 27, 2021

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Same. I'm having the same issues myself. I have CYMK and RBG swatches saved but they always change when I reopen Illustrator. Very frustrating and it's making me start to question the point of these swatches if they aren't securing the proper codes. I don't have this issue in Photoshop.

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Advocate ,
Oct 27, 2021 Oct 27, 2021

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"I have CYMK and RBG swatches saved"

In the same document?

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Engaged ,
Nov 23, 2021 Nov 23, 2021

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Anyone found a solution to this?

It is beyond annoying and potentially a work wrecker as the CMYK changes are not obvious on-screen, making it very likely that the wrong colours go to print.

 

How "professional" software is allowed to see the light of day with this kind of issues is beyond me.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Nov 23, 2021 Nov 23, 2021

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How "professional" software is allowed to see the light of day with this kind of issues is beyond me.


By @mowglivj

 

We still don't know what exactly the thread opener did to get into this mess.

 

If color values are chaning for you, please tell us what is happening step by step and how your color management is set up. Most likely your issue is caused by not properly setup and handling of color management.

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