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From single landscape (digital) to double-facing portrait pages (print)?

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Feb 02, 2021 Feb 02, 2021

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I have a 500 pages portfolio with single spreads that I have been using to send difitally.

Now I want turn it into a printed book, with double-facing portrait pages.

Is there a simple way to achieve this?

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Adobe Community Professional , Feb 02, 2021 Feb 02, 2021
Alright, I inspected your screenshots again and now I can see that the aspect ratio of the a double page spread is not exactly the one from the page of your original document. And, on the positive side, you already set bleed. That means: You will work on a new version of your original document with a new name in several steps like that: [1] If you are with InDesign CC 2019 and above: Enable Adjust Layout like Derek suggested. To do that change the width of your pages as if the width of two p...

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You'd have to define simple and show us some screenshots.

The "easiest" way to do it would be export a PDF and then drop that into a facing pages document.

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I have 500 single landscape spreads like this below:

Screenshot 2021-02-02 at 12.08.17.jpg

and I want to turn all of the into double-facing portrait pages like this:

Screenshot 2021-02-02 at 12.08.55.jpg

I am trying to understand if there is a quick way to achieve this.

 

Of course there might be some adjustments to make on each page, but that'd still be quicker than having to copy-paste from another document. Also, that would allow me to keep my master pages linked, which would be at least a day of work saved.

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Start a new file - with the dimensions you want - including the Spread option

File>Place and place your InDesign file into the layout. 

Adjust it to fit.

 

Once that works.

https://creativepro.com/zanelli-releases-multipageimporter-for-importing-both-pdf-and-indd-files/

 

Test the settings on a few pages and ensure it's working.

Once you have your settings correct - you can place all the pages. 

 

And then export to PDF>

 

This keeps the indesign file separate to make edits - you will need to edit the original indesign file - then update the file in the new document.

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Are you printing this out on your desk-top printer or sending out out to a commercial printer?

If the latter, they will probably want single pages to impose – I suggest you discuss it with your printer before proceeding.

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Now I've seen your spreads – have a look at File > Adjust Layout 

This facility should give you a good start.

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Hi alexisc38148975,

if the aspect ratio of width and height is the same, and your screenshots are suggesting this, you could export your non-facing-pages document to PDF/X-4 and do a new document with 1000 facing pages where you place one PDF page on every facing pages spread as Bob already said.

 

Warning: You have to add bleed to your document before exporting!

 

Step 2: Import the PDF/X-4 will néed 500 clicks for placing and another 500 clicks to change the active spread.

 

The alternative:

Step 2: You could move on with a non-facing pages document with 500 pages half the size of your original page size, place every page of your exported PDF/X-4 and later add another page to every spread in the document.

That workflow has the advantage that you could use the Multi Page Importer script to place all PDF pages automatically.

https://github.com/mike-edel/ID-MultiPageImporter/releases

 

To automate adding one page in every spread can be done with this script code ( ExtendScript/JavaScript ) :

 

var doc = app.documents[0];

doc.documentPreferences.preserveLayoutWhenShuffling = true ;
doc.spreads.everyItem().allowPageShuffle = false ;

var spreads = doc.spreads.everyItem().getElements();
var spreadsLength = spreads.length;

for( var n=0; n<spreadsLength; n++ )
{
	spreads[n].pages.add();
};

 

 

FWIW: That was easier to write than to add new functionality to the Multi Page Importer script.

 

How to save ExtendScript code to a script file, install the script file and execute it see:

https://www.indiscripts.com/pages/help#hd0sb2

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

( ACP )

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Alright, I inspected your screenshots again and now I can see that the aspect ratio of the a double page spread is not exactly the one from the page of your original document. And, on the positive side, you already set bleed.

 

That means:

You will work on a new version of your original document with a new name in several steps like that:

 

[1] If you are with InDesign CC 2019 and above: Enable Adjust Layout like Derek suggested.

To do that change the width of your pages as if the width of two pages side by side are added.

Do that with  File > Layout Adjustment….

 

My screenshot is showing a German UI where I changed the width and the height and also gave new values to the margins.

As an option I also enabled the scaling of text:

STEP-1-LayoutAdjustment.PNG

 

The result was this, the text was scaled, the text frame moved with the margins, also the dimensions of the background frame changes. And the position, width and height of the rectangle that holds the motif, the yellow one:

STEP-1.1-AfterLayoutAdjustment.PNG

 

[2] In preparation of step 3 group every item on every spread with the help of this script code:

// Group every item on a spread:

var doc = app.documents[0];

var spreads = doc.spreads.everyItem().getElements();
var spreadsLength = spreads.length;

for( var n=0; n<spreadsLength; n++ )
{
	var group = spreads[n].groups.add
	( 
		spreads[n].pageItems.everyItem().getElements() 
	);
	
};

 

[2] Now switch to the Page Tool.

Do the keyboard shortcut for Select All so that all pages of your document are selected with the Page Tool.

Then change the width of your pages to half the width like that ( Page Tool is selected ) :

 

STEP-3-PageTool-ChangePageSize.PNG

Important note: Set the reference point to the left. In my case I changed the width to 100 mm.

 

[3] As a next step run the script from my last post to add one page per spread.

Before ruuning the script to add pages:

STEP-4.1-BeforeAddingPages.PNG

var doc = app.documents[0];

var spreads = doc.spreads.everyItem().getElements();
var spreadsLength = spreads.length;

doc.documentPreferences.preserveLayoutWhenShuffling = true ;
doc.spreads.everyItem().allowPageShuffle = false ;

for( var n=0; n<spreadsLength; n++ )
{
	spreads[n].pages.add();
};

 

After running the script to add pages:

STEP-4.2-AfterAddingPages.PNG

 

[4] Ungroup all groups you did in step 2 with the following code:

// Ungroup all the groups of step 2:
app.documents[0].spreads.everyItem().groups.everyItem().ungroup();

 

Ok. This gets you a non-facing pages document with two pages on every spread.

 

What's left to do?

Change all of the master pages to the new size of your pages.

Set the page number of the first page in the first spread to an even number.

Change the document setup to a facing pages document.

Add one page to every master.

 

Only then:

Select all pages in the Page Panel and allow pages to shuffle.

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

( ACP )

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