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Keep options unwanted break

Explorer ,
Jan 26, 2021 Jan 26, 2021

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Indesign break my table caption and my table with no reason. I want the table caption on the first page and the table right below it. 

Screenshot 2021-01-26 at 10.27.00.png

Any idea on how to fix this?

 

Here are the style I used for the table caption

 caotion.png

And the style of the table

table.png

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Adobe Community Professional , Jan 26, 2021 Jan 26, 2021
another trying  As this issue takes place just in 1 point, I've changed a bit the previous paragraph layout. I just changed a bit the tracking values, and the table title returned to its normal place. It was a local override, not a style changing.

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Jan 26, 2021 Jan 26, 2021

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show please the screenshot with Hidden Characters turned On. It may help to find the issue.

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Jan 26, 2021 Jan 26, 2021

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Here it is. Just for your information, the same styles are used all over the document and is usually working correctly.

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Jan 26, 2021 Jan 26, 2021

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I suspect that deal is not with Keep options but with Span Column settings. When you have 2-column and 1-column paragraphs, they require a big attention and may cause some strange text behaviour.

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Ok, thanks!  You should be right as I have issue with my 2 columns layout. Do you have any advice to avoid/reduce this kind of issues?

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Jan 26, 2021 Jan 26, 2021

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If you can share the ID file (at leasr this part of text if you don't want to share all the content), I could look at all the styles and try to find the cause.

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Jan 26, 2021 Jan 26, 2021

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Thanks! Here is a link to a short version of the file:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vj13pg04zt3q63c/adobe%20com.indd?dl=0

By preparing the file, it changed slightly the aspect it had before but the bug is still present.

Please let me know what you think! Thanks

 

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Jan 26, 2021 Jan 26, 2021

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I'm not sure that it's the only problem, but it seems that "Align to Grid > All lines" in "Table Anchor" paragraph style make this mess. When I cancelled it the layout became look good.
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Jan 26, 2021 Jan 26, 2021

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Thanks for trying so hard! Unfortunately, I still have the issue. I reset the "Table Anchor" paragraph style to base (and add the only settings I wanted) but still have this issue.

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Jan 26, 2021 Jan 26, 2021

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Actually, all this is quite strange, maybe this is not a final. But.

Now I paid attention to table title style (title-#) and added Keep with Prevoius to avoid title's jumping to a new page and Keep with next 1 line to attach the table to the title. It worked, but it makes sense to check it with other parts of the text.

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Jan 26, 2021 Jan 26, 2021

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Thanks again. I am not able to reproduce your setup. When I add "Keep with previous" to "table-#", it adds another break! 

Anyway, I think this cannot be used throughout the whole document as it could create error when the table caption is at top of the page.

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another trying 🙂
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As this issue takes place just in 1 point, I've changed a bit the previous paragraph layout. I just changed a bit the tracking values, and the table title returned to its normal place. It was a local override, not a style changing.

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This one worked! Thanks for the hard work

 

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In your paragraph style "table-#" change Align to Grid > "None"

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