Outline text with bullets & numbering

[lingl87007791]

I can't seem to outline bullets and numbering along with text in Indesign cc 2018. Once I click "create outlines" bullets and numbering would disappear. Is it just me? Does anyone else experience this issue?

[wildstar14]

If it works as designed, then the design sucks!

[Red Point]

I cant believe how moderators in the forum belittle genuine questions. Yes, we need to be able to convert fonts to paths and no, this is not a poor workflow.

There are many good reasons we need to convert, one big one is Adobe's poor font management in general. Very often cloud fonts just get dropped, so to convert to paths is the only way to "lock in" a design, unless you use Google fonts (which in general are much more reliable than Adobes chaotic font licensing). I was even told by one moderator to do just that if I want to make sure my designs don't get altered because of the Adobe font issues. The fact that moderators now say this is bad workflow just shows how these things run around in circles at Adobe. Just fix the thing for crying out loud and stop trying to cover up a bug.

I would really appreciate if moderators would focus on a good answers, rather than spill out bad vibes and do so multiple times in a single thread. I mean seriously, how many moderators have to repeat the concept of a "bad workflow", which in this case doesnt even apply.

The fact of the matter is that Adobe does not allocate enough dev time to apps like InDesign. Development there has been very slow and bugs just get carried over from one version to the next. 

I really hope Adobe fixes this.

[Willi Adelberger]

No, that answers are correct. You can convert fonts correctly into paths, not in InDesign, but in Acrobat Pro. Do it there. This is the only way to do it without destroying the original and also involving objects from the master/parent pages, also involving footnotes and endnotes and cross references. 

[rob day]

Very often cloud fonts just get dropped, so to convert to paths is the only way to "lock in" a design, unless you use Google fonts (which in general are much more reliable than Adobes chaotic font licensing)

If the font is missing outlining won’t help because—well the font is missing. None of Adobe’s fonts have embedding restrictions, so there should be no problem exporting a PDF with all the fonts embedded.

I really hope Adobe fixes this.

It will never happen

[BobLevine]

I really hope Adobe fixes this.

There is nothing to fix!

[Nicola34874229h3xw]

Is there any way to stop other components from disappearing when converting a file to outlines in Indesign. I can see the fix for bullets, but what about underlines, tables and text that is on top of anchored filled-in boxes. All my artwork must be changed to outlines to prevent any interference with the files, as my artwork is regulated and approved before sending the printers. Will Adobe ever fix this problem?

[BobLevine]

As pointed out over and over and over again, there is nothing to fix. Read the entire discussion for your choices.

This discussion has long since run its course so I'm locking it.