P: Straighten does not work as expected. (crop will be reset)

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Guest
May 24, 2015 May 24, 2015

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In LR6 if I use the straighten function and make a crop after that and try to straighten again, the crop will be reset. This is very frustating. In LR5 this works fine. If I make a crop at first and straighten after that it woks as expected, but not if I straighten the picture as the first step.

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Adobe Employee ,
May 25, 2015 May 25, 2015

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I cannot duplicate the behavior you are describing.

Perhaps if you list the steps exactly so that we can follow and try to repeat the behavior you are seeing?
Rikk Flohr - Customer Advocacy: Adobe Photography Products

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New Here ,
May 26, 2015 May 26, 2015

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I am seeing this issue as well. Extremely frustrating.

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Adobe Employee ,
May 26, 2015 May 26, 2015

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I cannot duplicate on Mac or Windows - unless there is a step I am missing.

Can either of you provide detailed step-by-step instructions?
Rikk Flohr - Customer Advocacy: Adobe Photography Products

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LEGEND ,
May 26, 2015 May 26, 2015

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Here are the steps I'm using and CANNOT duplicate the issue.

I am starting with a 5472x3648 raw file from my 7D Mark II in LR 6.0.1 on Win 8.1 with the GPU disabled.

I click on the crop tool and see a crop box surrounding my entire image with the crop-aspect of Original which is 3:2.

I click the ruler icon and drag it at an angle and see that the image box tilts and shrinks to make the dragged line horizontal although the line disappears as it should.

Next I adjust the crop box, either dragging it to a different size or a select a different aspect ratio--say 8.5x11. The crop-box resizes as dragged or one dimension shrinks to adjust to the changed aspect.

Then I select the ruler, again, and click-drag at another angle.

The image rotates so that the dragged line is horizontal but the crop-box remains the size and/or aspect I previously had set it unless it needs to be smaller to fit within the image extent.

At no time does the crop-box reset to the extent of the image nor does the aspect change back to Original merely by my dragging the ruler at an angle.

If you're not using LR 6.0.1/CC 2015.0.1 then maybe Adobe fixed it in the .0.1 version. Check Help / System Info to see what version have.

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May 26, 2015 May 26, 2015

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You forget the first step.
1. rotate
2. crop
3. rotate -> crop will be lost

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LEGEND ,
May 26, 2015 May 26, 2015

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In your initial post you call your first step a "straighten".
Now in this "correction" post you call the first step a "rotate".

As my first step that changes something about the image I use the straighten ruler in the crop-tool area.

How are you rotating/straightening without using the ruler in the crop tool? Am I supposed to be dragging the angle slider in the crop-tool or doing something in the lens corrections area?

We've asked for specific instructions and all you can say is I'm not doing something that I'm clearly doing at least in one plausible interpretation of your steps.

It would help to use the actual LR terms for what you're doing...the actual tool names.

If you're using a non-English version of LR then perhaps include screenshots with circles or arrows indicating which tools you're using.

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May 26, 2015 May 26, 2015

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ok:
1. straighten
2. crop
3. straighten -> crop will be removed

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May 26, 2015 May 26, 2015

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I don't mean the auto straighten tool. I mean the straighten (rotate by arbitrary angle) from crop menu.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
May 27, 2015 May 27, 2015

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I can't reproduce this either. It might help to know which operating system you're using for a start.

Try laying out steps like this:

1. Select the Straighten tool in the Crop Options panel and drag a line on the photo. Angle slider is automatically set to -13.58.
2. Grab the bottom right corner of the bounding box and drag up and left.
3. Adjust the Angle slider in the Crop Options panel to -15.62.
4. Crop boundaries revert to full photo. Angle slider is reset to 0.

Or whatever you're seeing. (Or if you're fed up with trying to explain, a video is by far the best way of us understanding what you're seeing. You don't even need screen capture - videoing the screen using your phone would do!)
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Enthusiast ,
May 27, 2015 May 27, 2015

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I can reproduce it using the following steps on Windows 7:

1. Select a new photo in develop. The photo is on Adobe defaults and has 3:2 aspect
2. Enter crop tool
3. Set rotation angle to -20
4. Drag the lower right corner or the crop rectangle slightly left/upwards
5. Make a small adjustment to the rotation angle ===> The crop rectangle resets to full size!

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Guest
May 27, 2015 May 27, 2015

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many thanx

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Enthusiast ,
May 27, 2015 May 27, 2015

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Some additional remarks:

- I set rotation angle using the crop rotation slider. In contrast, using the straighten tool sometimes seems to work, and sometimes not...

- There seem to be some variations to this approach: For instance you can start step 1 using an arbitrarily cropped photo, in which case in step 5 the crop resets to the original crop from the time of selecting the photo.

- The important thing seems to be that the photo is newly selected (step 1) before executing the other steps.

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Adobe Employee ,
May 27, 2015 May 27, 2015

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Finally - with the complete steps, I can also duplicate. A bug has been filed.
Rikk Flohr - Customer Advocacy: Adobe Photography Products

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Guest
Jun 16, 2015 Jun 16, 2015

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Unfortunately the bug still remains in current version of Lightroom 6.1. I hope this will be fixed soon. It's really annoying.

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LEGEND ,
Aug 04, 2015 Aug 04, 2015

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Glad to hear a bug has been filed. I hope this is fixed soon. It is extremely annoying when it happens.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 26, 2015 Sep 26, 2015

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This is still happening. Any estimate when this is planned to be fixed?
The same bug is reported several times :

http://feedback.photoshop.com/photosh...

http://feedback.photoshop.com/photosh...

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LEGEND ,
Oct 14, 2015 Oct 14, 2015

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I just went back to an previous days shooting since upgrading to 6.2.1. And sat and watch the previews in the filmstrip loose all their previous settings. Crops became full frame. I shut down and now afraid to reopen LR6

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New Here ,
Oct 16, 2015 Oct 16, 2015

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Bug in LR 6 (downloaded through CC): when adjusting the angle through the crop tool, the crop overlay completely resets every time. Any previous crop changes are lost, and the entire crop must be readjusted. Not seen in previously used versions of LR.

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LEGEND ,
Oct 16, 2015 Oct 16, 2015

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Bug in LR 6 (downloaded through CC): when adjusting the angle through the crop tool, the crop overlay completely resets every time. Any previous crop changes are lost, and the entire crop must be readjusted. Not seen in previously used versions of LR

Same problem only when applying crop from previous photo or pasted. If I try to edit the crop it keeps resetting to default.

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