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Inverting negative film strips in LR5?

New Here ,
Jun 25, 2013 Jun 25, 2013

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I do invert negatives it in PS CS6 and was wondering if LR5 has that ability?

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Adobe Community Professional , May 21, 2016 May 21, 2016
But the picture is blue.
When you invert the (negative) image of a Color negative, you also have the base color of the film to worry about. Color neg film has an orange base.  Inverted it becomes blue! For B&W monochrome negatives  just inverting the tone curve is acceptable. Color negatives need a lot more work.For some good advice read this link-Camera Scanning | dpBestflow Inverting the tone curve in Lightroom, also has the side effect of reversing several of the Basic Develop sliders! which ...

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Advisor ,
Jun 25, 2013 Jun 25, 2013

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You can use the Tone Curve to invert images.

Click the icon to enable Point Curve editing. Drag the corner points to their opposites.

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New Here ,
Jun 26, 2013 Jun 26, 2013

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Thanks David.

Seems so simple once someone points it out.

Jack

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People's Champ ,
Jun 26, 2013 Jun 26, 2013

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If you have a lot of these to do you can save that Tone Curve as a Develop Preset. Then it can be applied with a button click. Or to many images at once via the Quick Develop panel.

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New Here ,
Jun 26, 2013 Jun 26, 2013

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Good point Rikki, thanks for the tip, I do have a bunch of film strips. I shooting them in RAW on my 5D M2 with a DYI setup so far I'm getting good results. I hsve PS6 but am thinking LR5 is more suited for my work.

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New Here ,
Apr 13, 2016 Apr 13, 2016

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Apparently, Custom Point Curve is no longer available in LR 6.5

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Apr 13, 2016 Apr 13, 2016

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Yes it is. Just click the icon and adjust the curve.

The word "Custom" doesn't appear until you start manipulating the curve.

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New Here ,
Apr 13, 2016 Apr 13, 2016

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What icon? Also, I can't select RGB, it only has contrast adjustments. Using Lightroom 6.5 (NOT CC)

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Apr 13, 2016 Apr 13, 2016

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See reply #1 in this thread.

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New Here ,
Apr 13, 2016 Apr 13, 2016

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OK, got it, the little curve icon. Thanks. I have been able to convert a film color negative (shot using a digital camera, bellows, macro lens, and slide duplicator) to a positive image in LR. And saved it as a preset.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Apr 13, 2016 Apr 13, 2016

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Good catch by Per.

You need to click the icon so that the sliders are not shown. Then you can move the endpoints.

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Community Beginner ,
May 21, 2016 May 21, 2016

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Nice, and works.  But the picture is blue. 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
May 21, 2016 May 21, 2016

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But the picture is blue.

When you invert the (negative) image of a Color negative, you also have the base color of the film to worry about. Color neg film has an orange base.  Inverted it becomes blue!

For B&W monochrome negatives  just inverting the tone curve is acceptable. Color negatives need a lot more work.

For some good advice read this link-

Camera Scanning | dpBestflow

Inverting the tone curve in Lightroom, also has the side effect of reversing several of the Basic Develop sliders! which can be a surprise. If you make a preset of an inverted tone curve you can also modify it to include contrast (the traditional "S" curve)

Regards. My System: Lr-Classic 11.0.1, Photoshop 23.0.2, Lightroom 5.0, Bridge 12.0, Windows-10.

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Community Beginner ,
May 28, 2016 May 28, 2016

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I plan on buying a professional scanner now.  Less work.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
May 28, 2016 May 28, 2016

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That is a good choice. I believe scanning with a quality scanner produces a much better image.

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New Here ,
Nov 25, 2016 Nov 25, 2016

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What can be recommended ?

I once had a 35mm negative scanner that actually scanned the negatives and produced very

high quality results.

There is a misnomer in the modern description 'scanner' because they all appear to be just a camera

in a box.

With and old 'camera' model I removed the base and used it to copy medium format negatives placed

on a light box.

It is strange that manufacturers have not worked out that this can be done and produced a

convertible 'scanner'.

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 30, 2017 Jul 30, 2017

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It's dumb that there isn't a simple invert checkbox.   You can invert the curve, but then shadows are highlights and it's pretty confusing to work with.  

I'm capturing my negatives with a DSLR and it gives results at least as good as a flatbed scanner, and it's so much faster than scanning.   More and more people are working this way as full-frame DSLRs have come down in price.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jul 30, 2017 Jul 30, 2017

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Can I suggest you add a vote (button- top of page)  and a post at-  Lightroom/Camera Raw: Ability to invert negative scans to positives | Photoshop Family Customer Comm...

Regards. My System: Lr-Classic 11.0.1, Photoshop 23.0.2, Lightroom 5.0, Bridge 12.0, Windows-10.

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