LR5 Trial - Output Sharpening and Noise Reduction not working.

[Guest]

Just installed LR5 final and upgraded my LR4 catalog. Output Sharpening does nothing when exporting. noise reduction doesn't work also, exportet jpej look awful. is this a trial limitation maybe?

[Americhickens]

That is the main thing for me too. It seems they've all been moved to the

CC project. There's not a team meeting for another month. Then they'll take

a vote the next month. Then it will be close to the 5.1 date. so they will

wait.

Then this will be a perfect example of why everyone should move to CC. To

avoid this situation.

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[areohbee]

the-ninth7 wrote:

within a week or so ...

There is no indication that Adobe will not be issuing a hotfix for this. but a week is a little much to ask of a big, bureaucratic, red-tape wrapped outfit like Adobe.

To paraphrase V. Bampton:

"Lr is steered more like an ocean liner than a kayak".

That said, even the Queen Mary can be turned if you crank on her wheel for long enough.

Fingers crossed for a fix before 5.1, it's been 2 week since release, maybe within another week or so... .

R

[Americhickens]

I remember that Microsoft Word bug where the documents wouldn't save the

letter T. oh wait no I don't

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[IvarSt]

I'm sorry but at this point it is clear there will be no hotfix.

It is called just a fix and accrding to one Adobe employee (written in a post past Sunday?) this is coming ASAP, which again means absolutely nothing. No date = no promise. That I already knew myself that they are working on it.

I, like many of you, have also used LR since beginning. Yes, there have been bugs with early releases but I can't remember something seriously blocking for the essential - develop and sharing (export).

The beta for the current version was working for me, I didn't think twice to start using the full version.

What a mistake, no hotfix, no fix, already 2.5 weeks since the release.

I know this is not an encourageing message, but what the hell is going on???

[areohbee]

IvarSt wrote:

I'm sorry but at this point it is clear there will be no hotfix.

You really don't know that, do you? And since some people read this forum looking for answers (admittedly, they should have a big chunk of salt handy while reading), consider not spreading rumors.

IvarSt wrote:

accrding to one Adobe employee (written in a post past Sunday?) this is coming ASAP

If you are talking about the post by Dave Merchant, he's not an Adobe Employee.

Eric Chan of Adobe said (paraphrased) "we'll fix it". - right: totally non-commital on the time frame:

http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lr5_trial_output_sharpening_and_noise_reductio...

My guess: Adobe will release a hotfix, but they want to get a few things in, not just lo-rez sharpening/nr - just a guess.

Rob

[IvarSt]

Rob,

I think you misunderstood - by hotfix I meant quick reaction to critical issues.

Seems though the patch will include less critical too in one package and this is why it takes so long.

Yes, there is no clear line for hot vs. non-hot, though in my oipinion it has crossed the line for being a hotfix (critical issues identified since the day 1 and fixed right after - not like more than half a month later).

To be constructive - my issue is related to (seemingly) missing prioritisation.

Best wishes,

Ivar

[areohbee]

IvarSt wrote:

I think you misunderstood

Yes I did - sorry. I thought you meant pre-5.1 (before normal release cycle timing) .

I got your point now: after 2 weeks it can be considered "not that hot any more".

Cheers,

Rob

[IvarSt]

No worries Rob, thanks

[DdeGannes]

"" Eric Chan (Customer) 38 minutes ago

Rob, at present it looks like it will probably be "weeks".  That's not  the answer I want to give, and I'm not sure if it helps you, but there  it is.  :-(""

Bob this is Eric's post in the Photoshop Family Forum a short while ago.

[Americhickens]

hahaha. weeks can mean 7 months.

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[DdeGannes]

Well at least we rot a response that lets us know where we stand.

[Americhickens]

It let's us know where WE stand. $

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[Dave Merchant]

It's a static bug rather than a compatibility issue, so it affects everyone. I would expect it to be addressed in the next automatic update but I'm not confirming that it will be. Engineering don't publish changesets in advance, as things evolve on an almost daily basis. Since this particular bug is preventing many people from switching to Lr5, Adobe of course will be fixing it 'as soon as possible'. Does that mean tomorrow or next week? Can't say. Is it annoying for people affected? Sure it is.

Lr5  users will get auto-updated; people who are sticking with Lr4 until it's resolved will hopefully notice a wave of blog posts, forum messages and tweets. Either way, when we know, you'll know.

[areohbee]

Can somebody confirm for me exactly when (under what conditions) the problem happens, and exactly when it doesn't?

@now, PreviewExporter can be used to export/publish lo-rez copies, sharpened and noise-reduced, but I'm hoping to add the option to automatically do a regular export when the problem won't occur, and auto-switch to a preview export in case the problem would otherwise occur.

That way we can just insert the export-filter, check the "Lr 5.0 auto-work-around" box, and forget - problem pretty-much solved (for those of us brave enough to use the plugin I mean).

Thanks,

Rob

[Americhickens]

What a great guy! If the export size is smaller than 1/3 the original size,

noise reduction is not applied.

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[areohbee]

So at exactly 1/3, no problem?

And do you mean 1/3 total area (i.e. width x height), or 1/3 long edge, or...

[Guest]

dumdidum.. still waiting.. i think we can agree to call it a slowfix now?

and well... i doubt there will be a fix before the regular point release.

[areohbee]

hamada2003 wrote:

dumdidum.. still waiting.. i think we can agree to call it a slowfix now?

and well... i doubt there will be a fix before the regular point release.

I certainly guessed wrong about this one - disturbing really...

My workaround works fine for most exports (those that don't spawn additional exports from within). For example, web plugins which export 2 or 3 copies per "export", may not be fixable using the plugin.

Hard to fathom why Adobe did not see their way to quickly roll out a proper solution.

Rob

[areohbee]

BEWARE: There is a bug in the latest version of ImageMagick's mogrify (6.8.6) - images are coming out untagged, so export as sRGB unless you have an older version (6.7.3 is ok).

[Bec Sowada · Accepted solution]

This has been fixed in the Release Candidate of Lightroom 5.2, available now at http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom5-2/