P: Perspective Warp upside down [2023]

[Abarthphile595]

There seems to be an issue with Photoshop 2023, which the Perspective Warp tool makes the images appear upside down. It is only after approval that the images resume their orginal position. ie Correct way up.

What is going on?

Adobe Photoshop Version: 24.1.0 20221206.r.166 be4691b x64

[confusing typo fixed by mod]

[Peter Lndr]

Below is just a recap to this thread for those that don't have time, energy or interest to read it all.

This Bug seems to be activated only on some older GPUs, I have Windows 10, i7-6920, Quadro M2000M 4GB, and I can see the bug.

There are the following workarounds identified:

- Downgrade Photoshop to 24.0.X (works perfectly but you need to downgrade)

- Enable the "Older GPU Mode (pre 2016)." from Photoshop settings. (Works, but is a bad advice because it causes Photoshop to use software rendering and is too slow)

- Add an empty (white) layer mask to the layer you are going to warp. (Works just perfectly!)

So we can clearly see that the problem is not about "older hardware" or any GPU physics at all, it is just an error made (aka. bug), probably when introducing other changes in 24.1.X.

[Wilson Photo]

@PacoD At the beginning under the first post is Category & Topics. This is the only bug I've found with "won't fix"

Bugs list filter. Check out other bugs status

https://community.adobe.com/t5/forums/searchpage/tab/message?sort_by=-topicPostDate&filter=location&...

[28340442goxr]

Buenas tardes.

Tengo un error, cuando quiero deformar un elemento con la herramienta deformación de perspectiva, despúes de haber configura la opcion composición, cuando le doy a la opción deformar, el elementos se gira, boca arriba e imposibilita deformar.

[kevin stohlmeyer]

Hi @28340442goxr  see https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-bugs/p-perspective-warp-upside-down/idc-p/1356558... for updates

[PacoD]

@28340442goxr 
Hola.
El problema ha sido identificado y reportado. La incógnita es que no le sucede a todos los usuarios suscritores de PsCC por igual. Es un misterio total.
Para eludir el problema y poder utilizar la herramienta deformación (Warp Tool) puedes aplicar una de tres soluciones siguientes:
1. Instala (cualquier) versión previa de PsCC, o sea 24.0.1 por ejemplo,  y a esperar a ver cuándo Adobe corrije el problema y así poder actualizar a la última versión.
2. Elige en 'Preferencias' (sección 'Technology Previews') según la imagen a seguir. Aunque corrige temporalmente el problema, no es recomendable por que afecta el rendimiento de PsCC.

3. Aplica una máscara en blanco a la capa en la cual se encuentra el elemento que deseas deformar (según te muestro en la imagen abajo). Utiliza la herramienta deformación; verás que funciona normalmente. Luego de aceptar la deformación puedes eliminar la máscara sin afectar el resultado de la deformación.

¡Suerte!
Paco

[-:Nick:-]

Won't fix！！Cool！！

[CoryShubert]

Sorry everyone for the “won’t fix” confusion. We’ll set this thread to Investigating as we currently don’t have a “cannot reproduce” status we can use in the thread. This issue seems to affect older generation GPUs between 8 and 13 years old. We’ll continue to investigate but cannot guarantee a fix for this one will come for older GPUs. Affected GPUs posted in this thread so far:

• NVIDIA

• GeForce GTX 680
• GeForce GTX 780
• GeForce GTX 960M
• Nvidia Quadro K1200
• Quadro K620
• Quadro M1000M

• AMD

• Radeon R7 200 Series

 >> Current workaround for this going forward is to use Preferences > Technology Previews... and enable “Older GPU mode (pre 2016)” - Restart Photoshop

[Wilson Photo]

@CoryShubert  disagree with your best fix enable “Older GPU mode (pre 2016)”  it is not. It slows Ps down unacceptably!
The best fix is to add a blank layer mask to the layer being warped then this problem does not occur.

Question : how is adding a layer mask fix GPU related? Asked this before and never got an answer.

[Peter Lndr]

Looks like this thread is constantly being filled with misinformation, now lets try to keep this clean, please! The older GPU mode advice is bad and misleading, I don't think that mode does much more than shuts the GPU renderin completely off, it does not enable any "old mode" at all if you ask me.

This Bug seems to be activated mainly on some older GPUs, I have Windows 10, i7-6920, Quadro M2000M 4GB, and I can see the bug. Also, these are not 8-13 years old GPUs but it still seems still to affect some older  GPU models, and yes I don't think this is about the GPU at all because the code that is used to render stuff in Photoshop is using different libraries provided by Microsoft and Others, so unless there is some sort of code in photoshop that specifically looks for GPU manufacturing date to cause this, it should work just fine.

The only fully working workaround is this:

- Add a blank (white) layer mask to the layer you are going to warp. And yeah, you can still use the layer mask, it just has to be there to avoid flipping the layer.

So we can clearly see that the problem is not about "older hardware" or any GPU physics at all, it is just an error made (aka. bug), probably when introducing other changes in 24.1.X.!!! The Older GPU mode is the worst advice you can give anyone, so please stop there please, thanks!

And also my opinion that I must say here: I hate posting bugreports like this on a messy and un-userfriendly community thread, I would appreciate if Adobe would revert back to a professional approach regarding it's customer communications and service! (It would probably be easier to debug things like this with a customer that you have working connections with, instead of posting on a messy open-sourcish community thread)

[Gert28389723r8rr]

Bij transformatie verdraaien en bij marionet verdraaien, spiegelt het beeld verticaal. Als er eerst een selectie van gemaakt wordt, dan kan de functie wel gebruikt worden zonder dat het eerst spiegelt. Ik ben leerkracht, heb dit probleem bij 3 cursisten, bij de rest werkt de functie normaal. Alle gereedschappen herstellen heb ik ook al geprobeerd. Iemand die een oplossing weet?

[John T Smith]

When you post a question you always need to tell the Adobe program you are using
There are MANY programs in a full subscription, plus other non-subscription programs
Please post the exact name of the Adobe program you use so a Moderator may move this message to that forum

[Gert28389723r8rr]

🙈 It's in PS...

Outlook voor Android downloaden<>

[kglad]

in the future, to find the best place to post your message, use the list here, https://community.adobe.com/

p.s. i don't think the adobe website, and forums in particular, are easy to navigate, so don't spend a lot of time searching that forum list. do your best and we'll move the post if it helps you get responses.

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[Abambo]

Can you show screenshots?

I suppose you tried to reset the preferences?

[PECourtejoie]

Gooie avond. I'm merging your post with the main topic.

[Da7]

Nvidia Quadro K1200 is also affected by this issue

[fernando faria]

hello everyone, when I put puppet in my ps inverts the image upside down as soon as I click on it

[ManjotSingh]

my GPU is not listed and it is not too old MX 110 it also not supported and prespective warp giving issue 

[ManjotSingh]

It is not old but not supporting correctly prespective warp.

[Ged_Traynor]

@fernando faria might be related to this issue

https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-bugs/p-perspective-warp-upside-down/idi-p/1343148...

[Peter Lndr]

It's from 2017 so I guess it's old enough, my M2000M is from 2015, and I would not call it too old either. I hope this gets fixed on next update although the adding blank layer workaround works quite well, and this isn't that of a big deal currently.

[ManjotSingh]

Hope it work soon , I am using now by selecting old GPU older than 2016 in technology privew settings. I don't understand about blank layer, kindly explain more. 
Thanks 

[PacoD]

@ManjotSingh 
Hi.
From what others have mentioned, checking the box, "Older GPU mode (pre 2016)", may slow down rendering, even tho' it works quite well to circumvent the annoying bug currently affecting the Warp Tool.
You may also opt to revert to a previous version of PsCC for the time being, that is until a fix is implemented at which time you can then update to the latest version senza bug.
It appears that the better option to circumvent the bug is: 1) Apply a (blank) mask to the layer on which you intend to use the Warp Tool; you're not going to mask anything, of course. 2) Use the Warp Tool as desired. 3) Delete the mask .. or not; I choose to delete it, just because it does not affect the resulting warp.
Below is a screenshot to illustrate the application of the mask:

Hope this helps

Paco

[Bartlomiej0D4C]

The only sensible answer to the problem at hand. Congratulations

[PacoD]

@Bartlomiej0D4C 
Thanks but can't take credit; it was a team effort by community members.