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P: Select and Mask Workspace preview selection tools

Community Beginner ,
May 19, 2021 May 19, 2021

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In the Select and Mask Workspace an update of a selection made with any Tool (Quick Selection, Refine Edge Brush, Brush, Object Selection or Lasso) is NOT showing in the following Views: Onion Skin, On Black, On White, On Layers. In the Views Marching Ants, Overlay, and Black and White it is showing (MacOS Catalina 10.15.7)

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New Here , Jun 08, 2021 Jun 08, 2021

I updated to 22.4.2 today and the issue is resolved for me.  Mac OS Big Sur 11.4

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May 19, 2021 May 19, 2021

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It opens up the settings just fine but shows no real-time preview and I can't use the brushes to edit the edges and when I press OK, it's made all sort of weird edits to the image that I couldn't see in real-time. Please fix this ASAP.

UPDATE: I wanted to record a video showing how it's bugging out, but now I can't get the Select & Mask settings box to show up...... So this is SUPER buggy. Need a fix!

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May 19, 2021 May 19, 2021

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If this feature is not working properly or rendering the correct results...

We recommend using the Tech Preview option for overriding Photoshop’s native canvas mode found here:

Go to Preferences > Technology Previews, and check the item Deactivate Native Canvas, then restart Photoshop. 

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If this feature is not working properly or rendering the correct results...

We recommend using the Tech Preview option for overriding Photoshop’s native canvas mode found here:

Go to Preferences > Technology Previews, and check the item Deactivate Native Canvas, then restart Photoshop. 

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May 19, 2021 May 19, 2021

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Why does Adobe keep throwing out untested new versions?? Does anybody supervise anything anymore?

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May 20, 2021 May 20, 2021

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Guys im trying to use the mask refinement preview but its not previewing since i updated i think? I ahve tried gpu on and off. It makes the changes on the image when i apply them. I just cant see what the hell im doing in the preview.

Any suggestions greatly received

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Are you on Mac or Windows?

It may help if we could see your Photoshop System Info. Launch Photoshop, and select Help >System Info...and copy/paste the text in a reply.

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We are aware of the issue and are working to resolve it for a future update. 

What OS is this on? 

In the mean time you can try this workaround:

Go to Preferences > Technology Previews, and check the item Deactivate Native Canvas, then restart Photoshop. 

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thanks ill have a go at the work around - Its started happening since i upgraded to Big Sur i think

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May 21, 2021 May 21, 2021

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@JeffreyTranberry 

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New Here ,
May 21, 2021 May 21, 2021

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Same problem here! It appeared with the 22.4 update and it is still here in 22.4.1

I use MacOS 10.15.7, it has nothing to do with Big Sur

The workaround did not help

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LEGEND ,
May 21, 2021 May 21, 2021

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Same issue here, latest version of Photoshop on both a Macbook running Big Sur, and a Windows 10 PC.

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Community Expert ,
May 22, 2021 May 22, 2021

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@dramenon  Deactivate Native Canvas and restarting does not resolve this.

However to be clear so the issue can be replicated :

Entering select and mask without a selection works OK.

Entering select and mask from a selection works OK.

Entering select and mask from a layer mask, by double clicking, results in specific previews not working i.e onion skin, on black on white

The OP reported using a Mac - I use Windows 10.

Dave

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Engaged ,
May 22, 2021 May 22, 2021

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Dave is correct. Same problem on my Win 10 system.

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Explorer ,
May 23, 2021 May 23, 2021

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In MacOS 11.3.1 the same problem

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LEGEND ,
May 23, 2021 May 23, 2021

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Edit: If I go back to version 22.23 it works fine.

I'm having a similar problem in Photoshop 22.24.1

If I have an existing mask, I cannot use the Select and Mask tool correctly. If i keep in only on "Black and White" view it works, but changing to any other view does not show the effects of the sliders.

If I accept the changes, they will take effect, but I don't have any idea what they're doing, as I can only preview in Black and White view in the tool.

If I hold shift and use the legacy tool from the top menus, that works as it always had. This issue only happened when I installed the 2021 version of Photoshop.

OS 10.14.6, with an 8GB Metal graphics card, 64GB of RAM, and dedicated scratch disk. Both the OS and Photoshop are on the latest release.

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LEGEND ,
May 23, 2021 May 23, 2021

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Hi, I have the same problem in version 2021-22.4.1, Windows 10. I make a selection, create layer mask and open Select and Mask via the button in Properties, then I can´t use the tools in Select and Mask for all views (not working for Onion skin, On Black, On White, On Layers). 

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LEGEND ,
May 25, 2021 May 25, 2021

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Check-in from the Windows folks. We seem to have this issue as well.

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LEGEND ,
May 25, 2021 May 25, 2021

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I am having the same issue. When I enter Select and Mask I cannot see my brush strokes in onion skin until I accept the changes. Windows 10 v 22.4.1

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New Here ,
May 25, 2021 May 25, 2021

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Adobe reported a bug and that they are working hard to fix it. Now we need to keep fingers crossed that they will fix it asap.

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LEGEND ,
May 25, 2021 May 25, 2021

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I have the same issue, downgrading to 22.3.1 seems to solve the issue.

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Community Beginner ,
May 25, 2021 May 25, 2021

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I'm having the same issues. Refine Edge is not previewing my work with in the space. 

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LEGEND ,
May 25, 2021 May 25, 2021

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I'm having this same issue on Windows. Deactivating the Native Canvas didn't help. This issue seems to have started after update 22.4.

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LEGEND ,
May 26, 2021 May 26, 2021

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I am having this issue today, thought updating would fix it. Im now on 22.4.1 and cannot figure out how to fix this issue.

*Issue*

I'm masking out product photos, when I'm feathering, smoothing, or using the brush tool when I'm in the masking screen I can only see what changed after I hit apply. I'm not able to see the changes happen 

This is what it looks like before changing any settings:

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This is after I changed the feathering to test the issue, still no changes appearing:

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This is after hitting apply, I can see the feathering effect:

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Very frustrated with this issue, I've tried restarting and remaking my whole file setup and nothing is working, someone please help us!

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Adobe Employee ,
May 26, 2021 May 26, 2021

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Thank you for the additional information,

I understand Deactivating the Native Canvas didn't help and the team is looking into the problem. 

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New Here ,
May 27, 2021 May 27, 2021

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Same problem here. The "real-time refinement" is greyed out in the mask editing interface and the workaround did not help.

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